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What is an observation

Started byMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
First post2023-01-04 00:34 -0800
Last post2023-01-04 22:45 -0800
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  What is an observation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 00:34 -0800
    Re: What is an observation rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 03:49 -0800
      Re: What is an observation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 04:02 -0800
        Re: What is an observation rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 04:43 -0800
          Re: What is an observation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 04:57 -0800
    Re: What is an observation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-04 10:23 -0800
    Re: What is an observation Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-04 14:31 -0500
      Re: What is an observation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 11:55 -0800
        Re: What is an observation Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-04 17:20 -0500
          Re: What is an observation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 22:45 -0800

#599003 — What is an observation

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 00:34 -0800
SubjectWhat is an observation
Message-ID<66a82b84-2e34-427c-8618-72903f4f0c00n@googlegroups.com>
What do our Shit's aces know about this process?
Because it is a process... or isn't it?

What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?

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#599007

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 03:49 -0800
Message-ID<f4f577e2-5a88-4186-a406-0253b3c40d63n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599003
On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 3:34:53 AM UTC-5, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> What do our Shit's aces know about this process? 
> Because it is a process... or isn't it? 
> 
> What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?

I disabled my 'crank filter' just to see what the cranks are up to... Saw your post(s).
To address your questions:

Seriously, you do not know? This is well explained in all academic physics books.
Haven't you ever read any? Or, I should ask, have you ever understood any?

In the parlance of space-time physics, mathematically, an 'observer' is just a selection of a coordinate (an 'event'); for instance,
(x=1,t=3) is an observer. Sometimes it may mean the coordinate system, often symbolized as S or S'.

Physically, this 'observer' is a quantity (typically, the position or time) which has been logged by some process.
This process requires physical devices which may or may not be located at the event in question.
In simple cases, these physical devices are rulers and clocks.
The process is prescribed by the standard bureaus and the model (SR) used.

If you want further (in depth) details I suggest you consult the relevant documentation.

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#599008

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 04:02 -0800
Message-ID<d5d48f94-6166-4554-8516-be5f9d26e988n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599007
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 12:49:48 UTC+1, rotchm wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 3:34:53 AM UTC-5, maluw...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > What do our Shit's aces know about this process? 
> > Because it is a process... or isn't it? 
> > 
> > What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?
> I disabled my 'crank filter' just to see what the cranks are up to... Saw your post(s). 
> To address your questions: 
> 
> Seriously, you do not know? This is well explained in all academic physics books. 
> Haven't you ever read any? Or, I should ask, have you ever understood any? 
> 
> In the parlance of space-time physics, mathematically, an 'observer' is just a selection of a coordinate (an 'event'); 

So your delusions are "confirmed" by observations
performed by your delusions?
No  surprise.

And the first question? No answer?  
of course.

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#599012

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 04:43 -0800
Message-ID<2e1da131-0f5b-4244-84de-d473a60f1ce1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599008
On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 7:02:14 AM UTC-5, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:

> performed by your delusions? 

My clock on the wall does eventually indicate noon.
But you didn't I this.
On many occasions you have shown yourself to be a reality denier.
You are just a crank and an idiot who does not understand what he reads and cannot even perform basic math.

> And the first question? No answer? 

It was answered but you do not understand what you read. Google kept a record.
I'm putting back on my crank filter...Talk to you maybe in a few months.

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#599015

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 04:57 -0800
Message-ID<0044cda8-244d-4a25-9deb-ab4059131f8fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599012
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 13:43:29 UTC+1, rotchm wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 7:02:14 AM UTC-5, maluw...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > performed by your delusions? 
> 
> My clock on the wall does eventually indicate noon. 

And  is this "noon" performing an observation for you?
You said an observer is some quantity...

> But you didn't I this. 
> On many occasions you have shown yourself to be a reality denier. 
> You are just a crank and an idiot who does not understand what he reads and cannot even perform basic math.

Speaking of basic math, it's always good to
remind that your bunch of idiots had to announce its
important part false, as it didn't want to fit your madness.

> > And the first question? No answer?
> It was answered 

No, sorry. A lie as usual. You wrote what an observer is
mathematically, what  it is physically (both idiocies, but
you're rotchm). Nothing about what an observation is
and how this process(if it is a process) is performed.



> but you do not understand what you read. Google kept a record. 

It does.


> I'm putting back on my crank filter...Talk to you maybe in a few months.

More and more time you need to lick your
hurting ass.

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#599035

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-04 10:23 -0800
Message-ID<63B5C427.1D52@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#599003
Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
> What do our Shit's aces know about this process?
> Because it is a process... or isn't it?
> 
> What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?

"observer" means God sees all. Meaning all things 'observe'.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#599040

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-01-04 14:31 -0500
Message-ID<tp4k69$2i7ip$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#599003
On 1/4/2023 3:34 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> What do our Shit's aces know about this process?
> Because it is a process... or isn't it?
> 
> What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?

You don't even understand what an "observer" is in science?

An observer makes observation, what is observed to happen at certain 
coordinates.

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#599044

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 11:55 -0800
Message-ID<3e15e66c-d565-4a9b-a79c-08e74dc2a11en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599040
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 20:31:23 UTC+1, Volney wrote:
> On 1/4/2023 3:34 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > What do our Shit's aces know about this process? 
> > Because it is a process... or isn't it? 
> > 
> > What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?
> You don't even understand what an "observer" is in science? 
> 
> An observer makes observation

Your fellow idiot rotchm has just wrote:
"an 'observer' is just a selection of a coordinate  [etc]"
Does this selection make your observations, stupid
Mike?
No wonder that they are so idiotic.

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#599056

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2023-01-04 17:20 -0500
Message-ID<tp4u34$2j7ot$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#599044
On 1/4/2023 2:55 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 20:31:23 UTC+1, Volney wrote:
>> On 1/4/2023 3:34 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> What do our Shit's aces know about this process?
>>> Because it is a process... or isn't it?
>>>
>>> What is that "observer" they mumble so much about?
>> You don't even understand what an "observer" is in science?
>>
>> An observer makes observation
> 
> Your fellow idiot rotchm has just wrote:
> "an 'observer' is just a selection of a coordinate  [etc]"
> Does this selection make your observations, stupid
> Mike?

That's perfectly valid. My answer assumed someone wanted to use the 
info. rotcm's answer is equivalent to answering "yes" to the question 
"If a tree falls in a forest with nobody around to hear it, does it 
still make a sound?"

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#599092

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-04 22:45 -0800
Message-ID<b9b20127-9aee-4b95-a586-57bb852a7f25n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#599056
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 23:20:22 UTC+1, Volney wrote:
> On 1/4/2023 2:55 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, 4 January 2023 at 20:31:23 UTC+1, Volney wrote: 
> >> On 1/4/2023 3:34 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: 
> >>> What do our Shit's aces know about this process? 
> >>> Because it is a process... or isn't it? 
> >>> 
> >>> What is that "observer" they mumble so much about? 
> >> You don't even understand what an "observer" is in science? 
> >> 
> >> An observer makes observation 
> > 
> > Your fellow idiot rotchm has just wrote: 
> > "an 'observer' is just a selection of a coordinate [etc]" 
> > Does this selection make your observations, stupid 
> > Mike?
> That's perfectly valid.

Sure; as I said before - your delusions can only 
be confirmed by your delusions. Real observers
know their trains are going to their destinations
and not oppositely.

And what is this process of observation about?
What should happpen to allow us to say "an 
observation was  performed"?

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