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How much gravity is too much gravity?

Started bypatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
First post2022-11-19 15:10 -0800
Last post2022-11-23 12:59 -0800
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  How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 15:10 -0800
    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 15:55 -0800
      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 18:11 -0800
        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 19:10 -0800
          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 19:47 -0800
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 20:01 -0800
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 20:09 -0800
              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 20:17 -0800
                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 20:34 -0800
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-20 15:33 -0500
              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 22:10 -0800
        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-20 14:14 +0100
          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-20 08:02 -0800
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 08:14 -0800
              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-20 08:19 -0800
                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-20 08:23 -0800
                  Imbecile Pat Dolan perseveres "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 10:41 -0800
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-20 22:36 +0100
              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-20 15:36 -0800
                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-21 13:28 +0100
                  Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 06:44 -0800
                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 10:37 -0800
                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-21 19:44 +0100
                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 11:32 -0800
                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-21 22:47 +0100
                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 14:23 -0800
                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-21 14:24 -0800
                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-22 13:21 +0100
                              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-22 10:06 -0800
                                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-22 19:55 +0100
                                  Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-22 11:20 -0800
                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 19:14 -0800
                                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 00:04 -0800
                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 19:57 -0800
                                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 00:08 -0800
                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-23 12:05 +0100
                                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 03:26 -0800
                                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-11-23 14:50 +0100
                                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 06:57 -0800
                                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-23 12:24 -0500
                                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 09:36 -0800
                                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-23 14:20 +0100
                                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 10:09 -0800
                                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-24 20:36 +0100
                                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-24 14:27 -0800
                                              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-25 12:27 +0100
                                                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-25 07:23 -0800
                                                  Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-26 10:42 +0100
                                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-26 07:59 -0800
                                                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-26 22:42 +0100
                                                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-26 20:24 -0800
                                                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-27 13:14 +0100
                                                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-27 13:27 +0100
                                                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-27 04:36 -0800
                                                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-27 09:28 -0800
                                                              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-27 12:16 -0800
                                                                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-28 14:38 -0800
                                                                  Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-11-28 15:02 -0800
                                                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-28 16:35 -0800
                                                                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2022-11-28 16:50 -0800
                                                                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-28 19:54 -0800
                                                                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-30 11:59 -0800
                                                                            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-03 10:38 -0800
                                                                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Bobby Spanò <byy@bybpbayo.ay> - 2022-11-29 18:07 +0000
                                                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Bobby Spanò <byy@bybpbayo.ay> - 2022-11-29 18:12 +0000
                                                              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-28 12:53 +0100
                                                                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-28 10:43 -0800
                                                                  Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-29 10:22 -0800
                                                                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-29 11:33 -0800
                                              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-25 12:45 -0800
                                                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-25 13:24 -0800
                        Cretin Pat Dolan admits he's a clown "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-11-22 07:22 -0800
    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 18:18 -0800
      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 23:22 -0800
    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 20:32 -0800
      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 20:42 -0800
        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-19 20:50 -0800
          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-20 00:08 -0600
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 23:23 -0800
    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-20 14:08 +0100
    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 12:20 -0800
    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 10:42 -0800
      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-23 12:19 -0800
        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 12:41 -0800
          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 13:07 -0800
            Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 13:33 -0800
              Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 14:12 -0800
                Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-11-23 17:20 -0800
                  Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 18:43 -0800
                    Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-24 14:47 -0800
                      Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-25 20:03 -0800
                        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-26 11:57 -0800
                          Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-28 14:01 -0800
        Re: How much gravity is too much gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-23 12:59 -0800

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#595787

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 12:20 -0800
Message-ID<7038f985-5563-48dc-a29d-f8caf043b329n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595704
On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:10:18 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> We know from no less a personage than H. Antoon Lorentz that SR is valid in all accelerated frames except for those frames where the acceleration is caused by mass and/or energy: 
> 
> "SR as the theory of flat Minkowski spacetime remains valid in the presence of accelerations, because general relativity (GR) is only required when there is curvature of spacetime caused by the energy–momentum tensor (which is mainly determined by mass). However, since the amount of spacetime curvature is not particularly high on Earth or its vicinity, SR remains valid for most practical purposes, such as experiments in particle accelerators.[1]" 
> 
> That particle accelerators and cosmic muons exhibit near-SR values in the solar system's frame, any experimentalist will testify to on the grave of his mother. But wait! In some cases the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of the solar system turns out to be SR-destroying, as in the case of Dolan's Dilemma: 
> 
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate 
> 
> Which was meticulously verified by Professor Paul B. Andersen: 
> 
> https://paulba.no/pdf/Dolan.pdf 
> 
> So how much gravity is too much gravity for SR? And what does SR failure in the face of gravity look like? Can anyone provide side by calculations with error analysis?

Gravity has a gamma factor limit... because jets can't leave a black hole event horizon.
They can only leave supper heavy neutron stars low finite gravity.
Black holes won't let the jets we see happen... only a limited gravity does.
BHs and neutron stars appear the same but only one manifests in gravity
strength order. Only the limited order...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#596022

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-23 10:42 -0800
Message-ID<356814e3-5f91-4e0a-9535-66dd98a246ddn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595704
On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:10:18 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> We know from no less a personage than H. Antoon Lorentz that SR is valid in all accelerated frames except for those frames where the acceleration is caused by mass and/or energy: 
> 
> "SR as the theory of flat Minkowski spacetime remains valid in the presence of accelerations, because general relativity (GR) is only required when there is curvature of spacetime caused by the energy–momentum tensor (which is mainly determined by mass). However, since the amount of spacetime curvature is not particularly high on Earth or its vicinity, SR remains valid for most practical purposes, such as experiments in particle accelerators.[1]" 
> 
> That particle accelerators and cosmic muons exhibit near-SR values in the solar system's frame, any experimentalist will testify to on the grave of his mother. But wait! In some cases the spacetime curvature in the vicinity of the solar system turns out to be SR-destroying, as in the case of Dolan's Dilemma: 
> 
> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/580388/does-keplers-3rd-law-of-planetary-motion-violate-the-first-postulate 
> 
> Which was meticulously verified by Professor Paul B. Andersen: 
> 
> https://paulba.no/pdf/Dolan.pdf 
> 
> So how much gravity is too much gravity for SR? And what does SR failure in the face of gravity look like? Can anyone provide side by calculations with error analysis?

The strength of gravity cannot reach light speed.
The atom speed pushed bty gravity programs Gamma only finite slower than light.
A BH is too much gravity. A neutron star is not. Fall must remain below light speed.

Only neutrons stars allow  jets to leave.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#596033

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-23 12:19 -0800
Message-ID<637E804A.2BBD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#596022
There is no gravity.

It's....it's...
just a theory!






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#596036

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2022-11-23 12:41 -0800
Message-ID<32abcb19-d9fa-44db-bd82-acd73dd03cb5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596033
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> There is no gravity. 
> 
> It's....it's... 
> just a theory! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.
We take advantage of the Starmaker post to further point out that GR explicitly states that spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a gravitating body does not depend on an observer's velocity relative to that gravitating body.  There is reputed to be experimental data to this effect:  The same velocity agnostic equations are use to predict both the bending of a beam of starlight and the advance of the perihelion of  slothful Mercury.

It is Dirk's Dilemma coupled with the above that for the first time gives a firm theoretical framework on which to hang the quantifiable falsification of Relativity.

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#596039

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-23 13:07 -0800
Message-ID<88d1908b-170a-48bd-964b-12485d061474n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596036
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:41:13 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > There is no gravity. 
> > 
> > It's....it's... 
> > just a theory! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > and challenge 
> > the unchallengeable.
> We take advantage of the Starmaker post to further point out that GR explicitly states that spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a gravitating body does not depend on an observer's velocity relative to that gravitating body. There is reputed to be experimental data to this effect: The same velocity agnostic equations are use to predict both the bending of a beam of starlight and the advance of the perihelion of slothful Mercury. 
> 
> It is Dirk's Dilemma coupled with the above that for the first time gives a firm theoretical framework on which to hang the quantifiable falsification of Relativity.

The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things.
How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#596041

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2022-11-23 13:33 -0800
Message-ID<7a2e2bbc-2577-4df9-ac3a-336fbc6a44e7n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596039
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:41:13 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > There is no gravity. 
> > > 
> > > It's....it's... 
> > > just a theory! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> > > and challenge 
> > > the unchallengeable. 
> > We take advantage of the Starmaker post to further point out that GR explicitly states that spacetime curvature in the vicinity of a gravitating body does not depend on an observer's velocity relative to that gravitating body. There is reputed to be experimental data to this effect: The same velocity agnostic equations are use to predict both the bending of a beam of starlight and the advance of the perihelion of slothful Mercury. 
> > 
> > It is Dirk's Dilemma coupled with the above that for the first time gives a firm theoretical framework on which to hang the quantifiable falsification of Relativity.
> The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things. 
> How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there... 
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
This work is particularly beautiful Mitch.  I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part.  I'm rehearsing it now.  I whispers very well.  Thank you, keep it up.

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#596042

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-23 14:12 -0800
Message-ID<5a4a7ea8-e74c-4184-bdf4-0945a5ff581dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596041
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 

> > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things. 
> > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there... 
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch

> This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up. 

Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two...

I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...

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#596055

Frompatdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>
Date2022-11-23 17:20 -0800
Message-ID<51b567ba-8b0d-4101-a697-a172eebb2e21n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596042
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:12:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things. 
> > > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there... 
> > > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch 
> 
> > This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up.
> Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two... 
> 
> I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...
There is obviously no romance in you since you lost your muttonchops.  

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#596058

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-23 18:43 -0800
Message-ID<5bbe2f1b-819f-4a80-b1cf-c889b20263a3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596055
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:20:55 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:12:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > 
> > > > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things. 
> > > > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there... 
> > > > 
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch 
> > 
> > > This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up. 

> > Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two... 
> > 
> > I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...

> There is obviously no romance in you since you lost your muttonchops.

How does 'romance' equate with relativity? There is nothing romantic about relativity, IMHO. YMMV. 

Read a dang textbook, you are WAY behind the curve here...

“It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.”
- Epictetus

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#596126

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-24 14:47 -0800
Message-ID<b2tvnh5dtv3d3e5kspa9m8vvsmbr69m4t4@4ax.com>
In reply to#596058
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:43:34 -0800 (PST), Paul Alsing
<pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:20:55 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:12:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote: 
>> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote: 
>> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things. 
>> > > > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there... 
>> > > > 
>> > > > Mitchell Raemsch 
>> > 
>> > > This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up. 
>
>> > Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two... 
>> > 
>> > I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...
>
>> There is obviously no romance in you since you lost your muttonchops.
>
>How does 'romance' equate with relativity? There is nothing romantic about relativity, IMHO. YMMV. 


"sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ...
That's relativity" -Albert Einstein -also tested by Einstein

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#596222

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-25 20:03 -0800
Message-ID<63819008.1339@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#596126
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:43:34 -0800 (PST), Paul Alsing
> <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:20:55 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:12:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things.
> >> > > > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> >> >
> >> > > This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up.
> >
> >> > Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two...
> >> >
> >> > I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...
> >
> >> There is obviously no romance in you since you lost your muttonchops.
> >
> >How does 'romance' equate with relativity? There is nothing romantic about relativity, IMHO. YMMV.
> 
> "sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ...
> That's relativity" -Albert Einstein -also tested by Einstein
> 

Tested by, .. means... Albert Einstein ACTUALLY performed the experiment with a "pretty girl" to prove:

"sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ... That's relativity"






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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#596269

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-26 11:57 -0800
Message-ID<0mr4oh1orpgrvuohvv4ubfdmdr63iojetj@4ax.com>
In reply to#596222
On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:03:20 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:43:34 -0800 (PST), Paul Alsing
>> <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:20:55 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:12:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
>> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things.
>> >> > > > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
>> >> >
>> >> > > This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up.
>> >
>> >> > Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two...
>> >> >
>> >> > I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...
>> >
>> >> There is obviously no romance in you since you lost your muttonchops.
>> >
>> >How does 'romance' equate with relativity? There is nothing romantic about relativity, IMHO. YMMV.
>> 
>> "sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ...
>> That's relativity" -Albert Einstein -also tested by Einstein
>> 
>
>Tested by, .. means... Albert Einstein ACTUALLY performed the experiment with a "pretty girl" to prove:
>
>"sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ... That's relativity"


Of course, Albert Einstein had to perform the experiment with a pretty
girl who
happens to be somebody's else's wife...and the husband had to be
silent about it.

I forgot her name but the husband wore a Hitler mustache.

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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
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#596380

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-28 14:01 -0800
Message-ID<63852FD3.21CC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#596269
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:03:20 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:43:34 -0800 (PST), Paul Alsing
> >> <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:20:55 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 2:12:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:
> >> >> > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:33:08 PM UTC-8, patdolan wrote:
> >> >> > > On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > > The space curve of the Sun meets the Moon but does not curve its motion like other things.
> >> >> > > > How does Moon motion curve by the Sun gravity? Einstein didn't go there...
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > This work is particularly beautiful Mitch. I will use it on my next date sans the Einstein part. I'm rehearsing it now. I whispers very well. Thank you, keep it up.
> >> >
> >> >> > Getting "good advise" from Mitch says a whole lot about your own lack of knowledge concerning relativity. It seems to me that you are conceding that Mitch has the superior knowledge among you two...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am actually rolling on the floor and laughing out loud ...
> >> >
> >> >> There is obviously no romance in you since you lost your muttonchops.
> >> >
> >> >How does 'romance' equate with relativity? There is nothing romantic about relativity, IMHO. YMMV.
> >>
> >> "sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ...
> >> That's relativity" -Albert Einstein -also tested by Einstein
> >>
> >
> >Tested by, .. means... Albert Einstein ACTUALLY performed the experiment with a "pretty girl" to prove:
> >
> >"sit with a pretty girl for an hour and it feels like a minute; ... That's relativity"
> 
> Of course, Albert Einstein had to perform the experiment with a pretty
> girl who
> happens to be somebody's else's wife...and the husband had to be
> silent about it.
> 
> I forgot her name but the husband wore a Hitler mustache.


The name of the "pretty girl" that Albert Einstein 'performed' himself the 'relativity experiment' on was Paulette Goddard.


dat guys wife...



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#596037

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-23 12:59 -0800
Message-ID<93dda6a8-83c8-46f7-9fdc-23e877ab8c32n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#596033
On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> There is no gravity. 
> 
> It's....it's... 
> just a theory! 

My scale reveals gravity on my world line...
Just as my clock shows me time to orient to.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

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