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This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place.

Started byRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
First post2022-11-18 16:05 -0800
Last post2022-11-20 12:34 -0800
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  This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 16:05 -0800
    Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapounet.fr> - 2022-11-19 00:16 +0000
      Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 19:56 -0800
        Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 22:21 -0800
        Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapounet.fr> - 2022-11-19 10:05 +0000
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 03:19 -0800
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 12:29 -0800
            Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapounet.fr> - 2022-11-19 20:40 +0000
            Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 12:55 -0800
        Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Jules Scotti <ujsl@ocjssuis.os> - 2022-11-20 18:58 +0000
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Jules Scotti <ujsl@ocjssuis.os> - 2022-11-20 19:41 +0000
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> - 2022-11-21 10:12 +0000
    Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-18 19:54 -0800
    Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-18 22:09 -0800
      Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 04:52 -0800
        Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 12:31 -0800
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 12:56 -0800
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-19 12:57 -0800
            Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 06:33 -0800
              Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-20 16:26 +0100
                Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 14:20 -0800
                  Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 14:34 -0800
                    Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 17:19 -0800
                      Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 17:57 -0800
                        Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 18:30 -0800
                        Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 00:46 -0800
                          Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-21 08:45 -0800
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapounet.fr> - 2022-11-19 21:25 +0000
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-19 15:50 -0600
        Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-20 03:34 -0500
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 00:42 -0800
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-11-20 05:01 -0800
            Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-20 14:36 +0100
              Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-20 14:41 +0100
            Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-22 11:32 -0500
              Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. Blake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in> - 2022-11-22 17:10 +0000
        Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-20 11:53 -0800
          Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-20 12:20 -0800
            Re: This forum is, mostly, an old fart's relativity widows gathering place. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-20 12:34 -0800

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#595802 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 14:20 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<71a03e3d-756e-4ea7-a1d1-b28b271f218en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595761
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:27:02 PM UTC-3, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-11-20 14:33:59 +0000, Dono. said: 
> 
> > On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 12:57:25 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > 
> >> Relativity is to physics what roman numbers are to mathematics. 
> > 
> > You are still having wet dreams at your age, Dick.
> Maybe Argentinian physics is still in the 19th century (though I doubt 
> it), but Chile is another story: "Chile: observatorio nacional 
> participa en confirmación de la teoría de la relatividad de Einstein" 
> (https://www.fayerwayer.com/2020/04/chile-observatorio-relatividad-einstein/) 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.


Marzo-abril 1925: crónica de un mes agitado
ALBERT EINSTEIN VISITA LA ARGENTINA
por ALEJANDRO GANGUI y EDUARDO L. ORTIZ

https://ri.conicet.gov.ar/bitstream/handle/11336/21896/0506052.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

His contact with Argentina had begun three years earlier when, for
initiative of engineer Jorge Duclout, the University of Buenos Aires (UBA)
issued an invitation to give a series of lectures on his latest and
controversial theory of general relativity. 

Duclout, one of the champions of
the theory of relativity in Argentina, was a physicist and engineer originally
Frenchman who has lived in Buenos Aires for many years and who, like Einstein,
he had studied at the Zurich Polytechnic.

Other Argentine universities and entities had joined this invitation.
Among them stands out the Argentine Hebrew Association (today Society),
recently created by a first generation of Argentine intellectuals from
Jewish origin who had chosen the figure of Einstein as an emblem of their
social and intellectual aspirations.
...........................
On Friday night, he was invited to a reception at the residence of a
influential and wealthy member of the local Jewish community; there he met
people who had financially supported his trip to Argentina.
.........................
His friend Dr. Georg Friedrich Nicolai, a pacifist like Einstein and who even
three years earlier he had been a professor of physiology at the University of Berlin,
he was now teaching in Córdoba. Although both friends met, there is little
what can be said about this interview? Curiously, his private diary does not
any reference to that meeting. Was the diary really intimate with him?

Upon his arrival, Einstein had expressed an interest in visiting the Jewish colonies of
Entre Ríos, if time allowed; that wish could not be fulfilled.
............................ 
Back in Buenos Aires, on the morning of April 16, Einstein met with
leaders of the Argentine Zionist Federation.
............................
On Saturday afternoon, the 18th, Einstein gave a private lecture on his theory at
house of his hosts. Towards evening he attended, as a guest of honor, a
reception at the Capitol cinema-theater where he exhibited "Some reflections on the
situation of the Jews".

Next, the Argentine Hebrew Association offered a reception in its halls and gave 
Einstein the diploma of honorary member. The Sunday Einstein traveled again to 
Lavallol; in the evening he met with friends German residents in Buenos Aires and
 later attended a reception in his honor offered by Jewish-Argentine leaders at the Savoy Hotel.

----------------------------------

That was the pagan god of physics: promoting, worldwide, the zionist movement
and fundraising, in particular from very wealthy jews at several cities. He filled his
pockets with argentinian money.

Read the entire 19 pages, which are a detailed chronicle of his 2 months here.

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#595803 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 14:34 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<36d9d986-8789-49e5-a5b1-997af136b5f7n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595802
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 2:20:05 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>snip mouth frothing<
> Read the entire 19 pages, which are a detailed chronicle of his 2 months here.

But you are a Jew, yourself, Dick. The most odious type-the self hating one. You lick nazi boots and kiss nazi ass every opportunity you have. 

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#595820 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 17:19 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<27ba082b-a538-4933-967d-95e8b3084e62n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595803
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 7:34:29 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:

<snip>

> But you are a Jew, yourself, Dick. The most odious type-the self hating one. You lick nazi boots and kiss nazi ass every opportunity you have.

Are you sure?. 

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#595823 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 17:57 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<d8f1980e-8c93-47ae-b9ff-d5adc8997d2cn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595820
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 7:34:29 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote: 
> 
> <snip>
> > But you are a Jew, yourself, Dick. The most odious type-the self hating one. You lick nazi boots and kiss nazi ass every opportunity you have.
> Are you sure?.
 Yes, I am sure you are a Jew. Your last name gives you away. 
Yes, I am sure that you are self-hating.
Yes, I am sure that you lick nazi boots and you kiss nazi ass. 

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#595828 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 18:30 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<14dae109-6caf-470a-b1c8-196bd68a3729n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595823
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:57:52 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 7:34:29 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote: 
> > 
> > <snip> 
> > > But you are a Jew, yourself, Dick. The most odious type-the self hating one. You lick nazi boots and kiss nazi ass every opportunity you have. 
> > Are you sure?.
> Yes, I am sure you are a Jew. Your last name gives you away. 
> Yes, I am sure that you are self-hating. 
> Yes, I am sure that you lick nazi boots and you kiss nazi ass.

You forgot: I AM SURE THAT RELATIVITY IS REAL PHYSICS.

Then, you have four stupid and completely wrong certainties to live with, romanian gypsy.

Because you are an old fart drooling imbecile.



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#595845 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-21 00:46 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<0a102a6a-413d-4332-8d89-bb3886d7ccc2n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595823
On Monday, 21 November 2022 at 02:57:52 UTC+1, Dono. wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 7:34:29 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote: 
> > 
> > <snip> 
> > > But you are a Jew, yourself, Dick. The most odious type-the self hating one. You lick nazi boots and kiss nazi ass every opportunity you have. 
> > Are you sure?.
> Yes, I am sure you are a Jew. Your last name gives you away. 
> Yes, I am sure that you are self-hating. 
> Yes, I am sure that you lick nazi boots and you kiss nazi ass.

A fanatic idiot does't need much to be sure.

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#595871 — Re: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-21 08:45 -0800
SubjectRe: Cretin Dick Hertz keeps having wet dreams
Message-ID<f0a8aa8c-6e19-474d-aa75-d146eda5fcc6n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595845
On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-3, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 21 November 2022 at 02:57:52 UTC+1, Dono. wrote: 
> > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:19:40 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 7:34:29 PM UTC-3, Dono. wrote: 
> > > 
> > > <snip> 
> > > > But you are a Jew, yourself, Dick. The most odious type-the self hating one. You lick nazi boots and kiss nazi ass every opportunity you have. 
> > > Are you sure?. 
> > Yes, I am sure you are a Jew. Your last name gives you away. 
> > Yes, I am sure that you are self-hating. 
> > Yes, I am sure that you lick nazi boots and you kiss nazi ass.
> A fanatic idiot does't need much to be sure.

Dono is aging badly, I tell you. Relativity fossilized his brain.

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#595697

FromRichard Hachel <r.hachel@alphapounet.fr>
Date2022-11-19 21:25 +0000
Message-ID<kqh45EPANUzw6XbUwHuDgQN3Cuw@jntp>
In reply to#595691
Le 19/11/2022 à 21:31, JanPB a écrit :

> Relativity will never go away, just like Newton's and Maxwell's theories.
> It's actually a very good theory.
> 
> --
> Jan

This is a very nice theory to come.

But as it is described today, it is false.

Minkoskian geometry gives some true results, but taken to the extreme it 
gives absurd, contradictory, false or extravagant consequences.

I spoke a long time ago about covariance and
the beauty of this theory. Strangely everyone relativistic admits this 
fact. If there is no covariance, the theory is contradictory.

However, in apparent velocities, I have been explaining for 36 years that 
there is a huge and manifest covariance defect.

It makes people laugh so much, they won't even see that what I've been 
saying is true for all these years.

They take for granted the idea that "if there was a fault or a paradox, it 
would be known".

This answer is perfectly arrogant and unargued.

The SR is much prettier and more logical than you think, and if stated 
well, it shouldn't be a problem for anyone.

Take the case of a Galileo or Newton equation, and let x=(1/2)gt².

It wouldn't occur to anyone to set x=(1/3)gt².

It is this force of persuasion and evidence that I would like to give to 
the theory.

Show that there are still major errors of interpretation and 
understanding.

But unfortunately, we do not want it, and the reason for this is not 
scientific, but human.

Human arrogance and smugness is a very difficult course to pass.

R.H. 

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#595700

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-11-19 15:50 -0600
Message-ID<jtt1e2Ftk2jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#595691
On 11/19/2022 2:31 PM, JanPB wrote:
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 4:52:45 AM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>
>> And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
> 
> Relativity will never go away, just like Newton's and Maxwell's theories.
> It's actually a very good theory.

Are you familiar with Don Quixote? Here you are living it.

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#595746

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2022-11-20 03:34 -0500
Message-ID<tlcord$3frth$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#595680
On 11/19/2022 7:52 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

> And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.

"We", Richard? Do you really believe that you speak for all 
Argentinians? Why did you insult your entire country?

I think there's no way that all Argentinians are as dumb as you are. 
Certainly there are at least some intelligent, successful scientists in 
your country.

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#595747

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 00:42 -0800
Message-ID<91b25ab8-beb1-4774-8531-ce941dd0978dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595746
On Sunday, 20 November 2022 at 09:34:55 UTC+1, Volney wrote:
> On 11/19/2022 7:52 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> 
> > And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
> "We", Richard? Do you really believe that you speak for all 
> Argentinians? Why did you insult your entire country? 

Tell me, stupid Mike, do you still believe, that your 
9 192 631 770 ISO idiocy is a consequence of
Newtonian physics?

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#595752

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2022-11-20 05:01 -0800
Message-ID<532e9866-300e-4ff6-8e19-6fa7d9bcc932n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#595746
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:34:55 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> On 11/19/2022 7:52 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> 
> > And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
> "We", Richard? Do you really believe that you speak for all 
> Argentinians? Why did you insult your entire country? 
> 
> I think there's no way that all Argentinians are as dumb as you are. 
> Certainly there are at least some intelligent, successful scientists in your country.

We are rational people, with a large multicultural and multiple religion and ethnicity. We are RATIONAL people and don't have stupid
fantasies about moving in vehicles at 10,800 Km/Hr (0.00001 c, Lorentz Y = 1.00000000005), to test if t' = t.

We also know that particles in physics don't carry a fucking clock, which would be meaningless (electron's proper time, etc.).

If we catch some asshole in college, work or meetings talking about such idiotic subject (Lorentz Gamma Factor IS THE CORE of
relativity), we beat THE CRAP OUT OF THEM. Every single one. That is "thought discipline" for imbecile relativists. Works for gay
people too, so be careful if you ever visit Argentina (or Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia). You can try Chile, and ask to Paparios where
are the best gay bars.

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#595755

From"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no>
Date2022-11-20 14:36 +0100
Message-ID<tldahq$3h7rf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#595752
Den 20.11.2022 14:01, skrev Richard Hertz:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:34:55 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
> 
> If we catch some asshole in college, work or meetings talking about such idiotic subject (Lorentz Gamma Factor IS THE CORE of
> relativity), we beat THE CRAP OUT OF THEM. Every single one. That is "thought discipline" for imbecile relativists. Works for gay
> people too, so be careful if you ever visit Argentina 
> 

https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=gaybars&find_loc=Buenos+Aires
https://www.misterbandb.com/gay-guide/argentina

You must have your hands full with all that beating!

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#595756

From"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no>
Date2022-11-20 14:41 +0100
Message-ID<tldapu$3h7rf$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#595755
Den 20.11.2022 14:36, skrev Paul B. Andersen:
> Den 20.11.2022 14:01, skrev Richard Hertz:
>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:34:55 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote:

Sorry Volney, you didn't write the following.

Richard Hertz did.

>>
>> If we catch some asshole in college, work or meetings talking about 
>> such idiotic subject (Lorentz Gamma Factor IS THE CORE of
>> relativity), we beat THE CRAP OUT OF THEM. Every single one. That is 
>> "thought discipline" for imbecile relativists. Works for gay
>> people too, so be careful if you ever visit Argentina
> 
> https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=gaybars&find_loc=Buenos+Aires
> https://www.misterbandb.com/gay-guide/argentina
> 
> You must have your hands full with all that beating!
> 

-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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#595934

FromVolney <volney@invalid.invalid>
Date2022-11-22 11:32 -0500
Message-ID<tlitjf$4ii0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#595752
On 11/20/2022 8:01 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 5:34:55 AM UTC-3, Volney wrote:
>> On 11/19/2022 7:52 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>
>>> And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
>> "We", Richard? Do you really believe that you speak for all
>> Argentinians? Why did you insult your entire country?
>>
>> I think there's no way that all Argentinians are as dumb as you are.
>> Certainly there are at least some intelligent, successful scientists in your country.
> 
> We are rational people, with a large multicultural and multiple religion and ethnicity. We are RATIONAL people and don't have stupid
> fantasies about moving in vehicles at 10,800 Km/Hr (0.00001 c, Lorentz Y = 1.00000000005), to test if t' = t.

Again, "we"? You are speaking for all of Argentina?

Argentina doesn't have intelligent physicists who can understand thought 
experiments of vehicles Or analyze actual vehicles (spacecraft) which do 
move at such speeds?
> 
> We also know that particles in physics don't carry a fucking clock,

"We" again? Subatomic particles such as muons don't decay with a 
specific halflife?

> which would be meaningless (electron's proper time, etc.).

Again, these scientists somehow know that Tom R.'s km long pion beamline 
must be a fake? Or can't understand the concept why it exists?

> If we catch some asshole in college, work or meetings talking about such idiotic subject (Lorentz Gamma Factor IS THE CORE of
> relativity), we beat THE CRAP OUT OF THEM. Every single one.

Argentina has criminal anti-science gangs who go around beating up 
scientists? Is that why, according to you, Argentina is backwards 
regarding physics?

> That is "thought discipline" for imbecile relativists. Works for gay
> people too, so be careful if you ever visit Argentina (or Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia).

And Argentina has other intolerant criminal gangs? At least I would only 
have to worry about the anti-science criminal gangs.

> You can try Chile, and ask to Paparios where
> are the best gay bars.

I have no such interests even if you do.

Does all of South America (except apparently Chile) have such criminal 
gangs?

Anyway, I either have to accept that either Argentina (and other SA 
countries) is under the control of anti-science thugs or you live in 
some bizarre fantasy world.  Given your other bizarre beliefs, I am 
willing to disbelieve Argentina being insane and anti-science.

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#595938

FromBlake Armanni <blea@arrkare.in>
Date2022-11-22 17:10 +0000
Message-ID<tlivpe$4omo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#595934
Volney wrote:

>> We are rational people, with a large multicultural and multiple religion
>> and ethnicity. We are RATIONAL people and don't have stupid
>> fantasies about moving in vehicles at 10,800 Km/Hr (0.00001 c, Lorentz Y
>> = 1.00000000005), to test if t' = t.
> 
> Again, "we"? You are speaking for all of Argentina?

well, you won't call your wife *Michael* by mistake. This is not america.

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#595782

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-20 11:53 -0800
Message-ID<637A85AF.5718@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#595680
Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:09:00 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> <snip>
> 
> > I'd be screaming too if I lived in Argentina with their 100 percent
> > Inflation rate! I heard someone bought a single jar of peanut butter and
> > had to made monthly payents on it.
> >
> >
> > How many monthly installments on a dozen eggs?
> 
> I know that's very difficult for any person living outside Argentina to understand how to live with very high inflation rates.
> 
> But we have lived for nearly 70 years under such context, except during 1992-2001, when we pegged the $ARG to the USD (1 to 1).
> Such neocon experiment produced a SINGULAR behavior of the entire economy: We TRANSLATED the inflation rate to USD pricing,
> so services, houses, cars, etc., experimented an increase of 140% during that period (in USD).
> 
> Any "developed" country's accountant couldn't survive in Argentina, because inflation IS A NATIONAL SPORT. We even export
> specialists in finance to MANY countries, where people are appalled by just a 10% annual CPI increase.
> 
> What nobody gets easily is the following:
> 
> 1) Argentina's monetary system has been dual for more than 50 years: USD are used here as "reserve value", which is treasured by
> people and held in safe boxes, into the houses or in bank's accounts in Uruguay, USA or caribean banks. Meanwhile, ´people read
> any value in $ARG and, automatically, translate it to USD. That's a MENTAL ANCHOR, which prevents people to become crazy.
> 
> 2) Marking a stark difference with ANY other country, Argentina's labor workforce is highly unionized. We have more than 1,500
> different unions which, either together or separately, negotiate salary increases up to three times a year.
> 
>  Then, a race between salary increases and inflation is permanent (sometimes salary wins, sometimes inflation wins).
> 
> This doesn't happen in YOUR country or in any European "developed" country. How are you doing with your inflation rate? Can you
> pay all your bills?. Bitching because of gas or grocery increases?
> 
> We don't. I remember that buying a coffee at a bar in 1981 costed me 1 USD. And this price barely changed for the next 41 years.
> Same with car's gas (1 USD/liter:: 4 USD/gallon, steady for 40 years). Or 3USD for 1 Kg chicken's breast.
> 
> If you want a fair comparison, our prices and average salaries are the same as in Russia today. Ukraine 2022 is a disaster, because
> almost all services and food DOUBLED the price in just 8 months (because of the war and heavy debts).
> 
> People here are mostly happy, even when 30% lower class lives on welfare (it always was, as IN YOUR COUNTRY).
> 
> As Argentina is one of the US bitches, we even plagiarized YOUR Constitution and state organization, 160 years ago. We had our
> Trumps and Bidens, which alternate in power.
> 
> And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
> 
> And you don't have enough food or energy for 320 million people.



$1 = 150.5300 Argentine pesos


China is going to take over Argentina...


you need to go back to Germany.






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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#595786

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-20 12:20 -0800
Message-ID<637A8BF4.24B2@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#595782
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:09:00 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > I'd be screaming too if I lived in Argentina with their 100 percent
> > > Inflation rate! I heard someone bought a single jar of peanut butter and
> > > had to made monthly payents on it.
> > >
> > >
> > > How many monthly installments on a dozen eggs?
> >
> > I know that's very difficult for any person living outside Argentina to understand how to live with very high inflation rates.
> >
> > But we have lived for nearly 70 years under such context, except during 1992-2001, when we pegged the $ARG to the USD (1 to 1).
> > Such neocon experiment produced a SINGULAR behavior of the entire economy: We TRANSLATED the inflation rate to USD pricing,
> > so services, houses, cars, etc., experimented an increase of 140% during that period (in USD).
> >
> > Any "developed" country's accountant couldn't survive in Argentina, because inflation IS A NATIONAL SPORT. We even export
> > specialists in finance to MANY countries, where people are appalled by just a 10% annual CPI increase.
> >
> > What nobody gets easily is the following:
> >
> > 1) Argentina's monetary system has been dual for more than 50 years: USD are used here as "reserve value", which is treasured by
> > people and held in safe boxes, into the houses or in bank's accounts in Uruguay, USA or caribean banks. Meanwhile, ´people read
> > any value in $ARG and, automatically, translate it to USD. That's a MENTAL ANCHOR, which prevents people to become crazy.
> >
> > 2) Marking a stark difference with ANY other country, Argentina's labor workforce is highly unionized. We have more than 1,500
> > different unions which, either together or separately, negotiate salary increases up to three times a year.
> >
> >  Then, a race between salary increases and inflation is permanent (sometimes salary wins, sometimes inflation wins).
> >
> > This doesn't happen in YOUR country or in any European "developed" country. How are you doing with your inflation rate? Can you
> > pay all your bills?. Bitching because of gas or grocery increases?
> >
> > We don't. I remember that buying a coffee at a bar in 1981 costed me 1 USD. And this price barely changed for the next 41 years.
> > Same with car's gas (1 USD/liter:: 4 USD/gallon, steady for 40 years). Or 3USD for 1 Kg chicken's breast.
> >
> > If you want a fair comparison, our prices and average salaries are the same as in Russia today. Ukraine 2022 is a disaster, because
> > almost all services and food DOUBLED the price in just 8 months (because of the war and heavy debts).
> >
> > People here are mostly happy, even when 30% lower class lives on welfare (it always was, as IN YOUR COUNTRY).
> >
> > As Argentina is one of the US bitches, we even plagiarized YOUR Constitution and state organization, 160 years ago. We had our
> > Trumps and Bidens, which alternate in power.
> >
> > And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
> >
> > And you don't have enough food or energy for 320 million people.
> 
> $1 = 150.5300 Argentine pesos
> 
> China is going to take over Argentina...
> 
> you need to go back to Germany.


In fact, Argentina has the HIGHEST inflation rate in the whole entire
world! 


China controls Argentina. (and Brazil)




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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#595794

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-11-20 12:34 -0800
Message-ID<637A8F4F.1CF7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#595786
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 3:09:00 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > I'd be screaming too if I lived in Argentina with their 100 percent
> > > > Inflation rate! I heard someone bought a single jar of peanut butter and
> > > > had to made monthly payents on it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How many monthly installments on a dozen eggs?
> > >
> > > I know that's very difficult for any person living outside Argentina to understand how to live with very high inflation rates.
> > >
> > > But we have lived for nearly 70 years under such context, except during 1992-2001, when we pegged the $ARG to the USD (1 to 1).
> > > Such neocon experiment produced a SINGULAR behavior of the entire economy: We TRANSLATED the inflation rate to USD pricing,
> > > so services, houses, cars, etc., experimented an increase of 140% during that period (in USD).
> > >
> > > Any "developed" country's accountant couldn't survive in Argentina, because inflation IS A NATIONAL SPORT. We even export
> > > specialists in finance to MANY countries, where people are appalled by just a 10% annual CPI increase.
> > >
> > > What nobody gets easily is the following:
> > >
> > > 1) Argentina's monetary system has been dual for more than 50 years: USD are used here as "reserve value", which is treasured by
> > > people and held in safe boxes, into the houses or in bank's accounts in Uruguay, USA or caribean banks. Meanwhile, ´people read
> > > any value in $ARG and, automatically, translate it to USD. That's a MENTAL ANCHOR, which prevents people to become crazy.
> > >
> > > 2) Marking a stark difference with ANY other country, Argentina's labor workforce is highly unionized. We have more than 1,500
> > > different unions which, either together or separately, negotiate salary increases up to three times a year.
> > >
> > >  Then, a race between salary increases and inflation is permanent (sometimes salary wins, sometimes inflation wins).
> > >
> > > This doesn't happen in YOUR country or in any European "developed" country. How are you doing with your inflation rate? Can you
> > > pay all your bills?. Bitching because of gas or grocery increases?
> > >
> > > We don't. I remember that buying a coffee at a bar in 1981 costed me 1 USD. And this price barely changed for the next 41 years.
> > > Same with car's gas (1 USD/liter:: 4 USD/gallon, steady for 40 years). Or 3USD for 1 Kg chicken's breast.
> > >
> > > If you want a fair comparison, our prices and average salaries are the same as in Russia today. Ukraine 2022 is a disaster, because
> > > almost all services and food DOUBLED the price in just 8 months (because of the war and heavy debts).
> > >
> > > People here are mostly happy, even when 30% lower class lives on welfare (it always was, as IN YOUR COUNTRY).
> > >
> > > As Argentina is one of the US bitches, we even plagiarized YOUR Constitution and state organization, 160 years ago. We had our
> > > Trumps and Bidens, which alternate in power.
> > >
> > > And we DESPISE RELATIVITY. We have our own model of REAL WORLD, and you live in a fucking fantasy land that will implode soon.
> > >
> > > And you don't have enough food or energy for 320 million people.
> >
> > $1 = 150.5300 Argentine pesos
> >
> > China is going to take over Argentina...
> >
> > you need to go back to Germany.
> 
> In fact, Argentina has the HIGHEST inflation rate in the whole entire
> world!
> 
> China controls Argentina. (and Brazil)

You're forgetting one important thing, Richard...China ALREADY knows
about You.
They know who you are, they know where you live, they have you on their
hit list!

If i were you i stop dancing on Tik Tock...




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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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