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Time Dilation Experiments

Started byEd Lake <detect@outlook.com>
First post2022-06-19 09:10 -0700
Last post2022-07-10 07:25 -0700
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  Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 09:10 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-19 10:31 -0700
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:01 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-19 12:11 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:20 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-19 12:26 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:49 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-19 13:07 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 13:15 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-19 20:29 +0000
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 13:34 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-19 21:22 +0000
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-20 11:36 +0300
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-20 08:49 +0000
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 01:53 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-20 09:12 +0000
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 02:23 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-20 09:50 -0400
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 03:52 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-20 11:27 +0000
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 15:22 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-20 22:27 +0000
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-21 10:45 +0300
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 10:18 +0000
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-06-21 12:27 +0200
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 10:48 +0000
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 10:50 +0000
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Python <python@python.invalid> - 2022-06-21 13:58 +0200
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 12:38 +0000
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 05:52 -0700
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 13:04 +0000
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-21 10:22 -0400
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 16:10 +0000
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-21 18:25 -0400
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 05:08 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 07:10 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 08:06 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 08:41 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 08:55 -0700
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 09:10 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 11:05 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 12:22 -0700
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 13:03 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 13:17 -0700
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 13:22 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 13:37 -0700
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 22:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-21 07:43 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 08:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-21 22:15 -0400
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-21 12:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-21 13:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-23 00:34 -0700
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-23 01:04 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-21 11:30 -0400
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 09:11 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 23:00 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 12:39 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:55 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 22:57 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-20 09:48 -0400
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 08:01 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-21 17:21 -0400
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 23:43 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-22 12:09 +0300
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-22 18:14 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-24 11:43 +0300
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 09:27 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 07:40 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 08:21 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 11:04 -0700
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:12 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 13:07 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-20 10:12 -0400
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 08:18 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 08:30 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 08:51 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 09:03 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 11:51 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 12:39 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 16:46 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-21 07:37 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Al Coe <coeal5136@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 12:00 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-22 11:49 +0300
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-20 15:29 -0400
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 13:05 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 13:17 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 13:21 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 13:27 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-06-20 17:35 -0400
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 22:44 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-21 07:17 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-22 11:42 +0300
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-20 13:11 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-29 23:03 +0000
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 11:20 -0700
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:14 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-19 12:05 -0700
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 12:31 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-19 12:44 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-19 13:12 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-19 14:48 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 07:25 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-19 22:14 +0000
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 07:31 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-20 14:58 +0000
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-20 08:29 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-19 13:35 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-06-21 18:05 +0200
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 09:13 -0700
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-21 10:02 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-21 20:26 +0300
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 10:45 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-21 13:28 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-21 22:09 +0000
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-21 11:36 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-22 11:55 +0300
      Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-24 11:50 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-24 12:57 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-06-24 13:22 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-25 13:26 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 13:46 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-06-25 22:56 +0200
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-26 12:00 +0300
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-27 11:21 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-06-27 23:32 +0200
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 13:23 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-24 22:40 +0200
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-24 17:50 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 22:58 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-25 10:23 +0200
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 03:13 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 22:55 -0700
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-25 12:18 +0300
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 03:14 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-26 20:24 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-27 09:30 +0200
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 02:09 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-27 11:04 -0500
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 10:23 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-06-27 13:04 -0500
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 10:03 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 11:10 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 12:18 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-07-01 22:10 -0500
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-01 22:16 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-01 22:58 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-27 14:03 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 23:20 -0700
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-27 22:27 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-06-28 07:31 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-28 16:45 +0200
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 08:22 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 09:50 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 09:51 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-28 22:34 +0200
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 20:01 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-29 10:04 +0200
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-29 08:20 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 07:47 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-25 13:48 -0700
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-06-25 22:58 +0200
            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-26 11:56 +0300
              Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-27 11:39 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 12:26 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 12:57 -0700
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-28 14:55 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 16:06 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 18:20 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-28 22:50 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-29 14:51 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-01 12:03 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-05 12:57 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-05 13:45 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 17:22 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 20:42 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-07 14:54 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-07 16:59 -0700
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 00:26 +0000
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-07 21:18 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 11:09 +0000
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-08 06:09 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 14:13 +0000
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 14:55 +0000
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 11:14 -0400
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-08 06:32 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 14:32 +0000
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 14:44 +0000
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-08 08:50 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-08 09:08 -0700
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-08 09:26 -0700
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-08 11:52 -0700
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-08 16:36 +0300
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 14:24 +0000
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 11:12 -0400
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-08 18:36 +0000
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemoveandReplaceATkevinaylward.co.uk> - 2022-07-13 16:57 +0100
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-14 10:25 -0700
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-12 13:12 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 18:13 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-13 20:44 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-13 20:47 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-29 11:53 +0300
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-29 02:33 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-29 09:43 +0000
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-29 02:54 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-29 16:21 +0300
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-29 06:35 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-29 13:48 +0000
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Python <python@invalid> - 2022-06-29 19:36 +0200
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-06-29 14:30 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-06-29 23:06 +0000
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-28 12:05 +0300
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-28 14:35 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-06-29 11:44 +0300
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-06-26 16:11 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-06-27 12:03 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-07-01 07:08 -0700
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              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-02 07:09 -0700
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-02 08:45 -0700
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                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-03 19:11 -0700
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-03 19:16 -0700
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                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-04 08:09 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-04 10:35 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-04 18:18 -0400
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-05 08:39 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-05 16:40 -0400
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-02 20:11 -0400
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-02 18:20 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-03 10:01 +0300
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-03 00:39 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-05 05:35 +0000
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-05 09:57 +0300
                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-07-04 22:49 -0500
                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-05 07:48 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-05 08:09 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-05 09:09 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 09:13 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 09:24 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 10:33 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-05 13:57 -0700
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                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-06 10:08 +0200
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                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-06 22:47 +0200
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 22:50 -0700
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                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-08 08:53 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-06 06:55 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 16:34 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-05 11:42 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-05 13:14 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-06 06:42 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-06 07:26 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 12:17 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 08:13 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-05 09:11 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-05 12:24 -0700
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-05 13:32 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-05 15:26 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-06 07:16 -0700
                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-06 03:58 -0400
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-06 10:33 +0200
                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-06 07:49 -0700
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                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-06 09:03 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-06 09:18 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 09:55 -0700
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-06 10:23 -0700
                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-06 17:33 -0400
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 22:30 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-06 22:47 -0700
                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-07 13:27 -0700
                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 10:37 -0400
                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-08 14:56 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-09 10:57 +0300
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 09:22 -0700
                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-09 07:41 -0700
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-09 17:51 +0300
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 09:52 -0700
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-09 08:36 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-09 09:05 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-09 14:06 -0400
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 11:52 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-09 18:19 -0700
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-10 07:22 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-10 08:36 -0700
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-10 09:28 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 11:18 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-11 07:46 -0700
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 09:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-11 10:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 12:39 -0700
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-07-11 13:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 14:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 17:16 -0700
                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 18:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 18:24 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-11 14:06 -0400
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 12:41 -0700
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-11 16:16 -0400
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 13:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-12 12:40 +0200
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 13:16 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 13:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 14:17 -0700
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-12 10:54 +0300
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-12 08:58 -0400
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 07:35 -0700
                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 08:01 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 11:49 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-11 19:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 13:30 -0700
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 16:56 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-12 09:45 -0700
                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 11:55 -0700
                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-12 13:16 -0700
                                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 16:22 -0700
                                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 16:56 -0700
                                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-13 07:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-13 12:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-13 13:18 -0700
                                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-13 16:57 -0700
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                                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-15 01:15 -0400
                                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-14 21:23 +0300
                                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-14 22:03 +0200
                                                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-15 14:40 +0300
                                                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-15 16:29 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-15 19:15 +0300
                                                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Alsor <alsorgzl@gmail.com> - 2022-07-15 10:10 -0700
                                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-14 12:06 -0700
                                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-14 19:29 +0000
                                                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-14 16:54 -0700
                                                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-07-17 20:10 +0000
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                                                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-25 16:07 -0700
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                                                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-07-26 10:23 +0200
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                                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-14 10:18 -0700
                                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Alsor <alsorgzl@gmail.com> - 2022-07-13 10:12 -0700
                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-12 14:02 -0700
                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 15:15 -0700
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 17:03 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-07-12 10:36 -0500
                                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 12:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-07-12 17:11 -0500
                                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-12 18:30 -0700
                                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-07-18 21:36 -0500
                                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-18 19:54 -0700
                                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-18 23:12 -0700
                                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-07-19 16:34 -0700
                                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-19 23:14 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ufonaut <ufonaut9@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 06:35 -0700
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-10 08:58 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ufonaut <ufonaut9@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 05:17 -0700
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 09:20 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-11 15:40 -0400
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-11 14:01 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-11 19:31 -0400
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-11 21:58 -0700
                                                  Chez Watt (was Re: Time Dilation Experiments) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-12 12:40 +0200
                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-09 12:51 -0400
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 09:55 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 11:43 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-09 10:06 -0700
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-09 13:41 -0400
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-07-09 20:44 +0200
                                        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-09 12:15 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 21:21 -0700
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-10 07:36 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 08:40 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-10 18:45 +0300
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-10 18:53 +0300
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-10 01:33 -0400
                                            Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-10 07:43 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 09:04 -0700
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-10 09:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 10:32 -0700
                                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 12:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Time Dilation Experiments Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 11:42 -0700
                                              Re: Time Dilation Experiments Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-10 12:56 -0400
                                                Re: Time Dilation Experiments Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 10:22 -0700
                                          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-10 13:35 +0300
                                      Re: Time Dilation Experiments "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-07-09 12:02 -0700
                                    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-07-10 13:38 +0300
        Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-07-02 07:08 -0700
          Re: Time Dilation Experiments Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> - 2022-07-02 07:21 -0700
    Re: Time Dilation Experiments Alsor <alsorgzl@gmail.com> - 2022-07-10 07:25 -0700

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#587550

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2022-06-25 13:26 -0700
Message-ID<95bdc1e2-b28d-496f-9523-ef88bd11fc81n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587511
On June 24, Paparios wrote:
>>>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html
>
>>> Which one tests length contraction?
>
>> As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed
>> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation.
>
> Actually, if time dilation which is a property of Special Relativity (coming as a consequence
> of the Lorentz Transformation Equations), then length contraction (also a consequence of the LTE)
> should also be valid. In other words, you can't have time dilation without having length contraction.

If I need a sofa for my living room, I pull out my tape measure, and measure 
the length of the room.  Then in the furniture store, I measure the length of the sofa.

I don't invent fairy tales about the half life of sofas, based on their speed, seen 
from various frames, then derive their length from that.  I MEASURE THE SOFA!

Your argument is unscience and unlogical.  One doesn't invent a theory, then 
deduce the outcome of experiments which HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMED, 
then congratulate oneself for confirming the theory. 


--
Rich

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#587553

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-25 13:46 -0700
Message-ID<f06c3535-24ef-482b-ad36-23d2339343acn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587550
On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 1:26:16 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:

> Your argument is unscience and unlogical. One doesn't invent a theory, then 
> deduce the outcome of experiments which HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMED, 
> then congratulate oneself for confirming the theory. 

Perhaps you should take a relativity course before you start lecturing about why it is incorrect... just a thought...

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#587555

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2022-06-25 22:56 +0200
Message-ID<t97sqk$3k8af$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#587550
Op 25-jun.-2022 om 22:26 schreef RichD:
> On June 24, Paparios wrote:
>>>>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html
>>
>>>> Which one tests length contraction?
>>
>>> As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed
>>> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation.
>>
>> Actually, if time dilation which is a property of Special Relativity (coming as a consequence
>> of the Lorentz Transformation Equations), then length contraction (also a consequence of the LTE)
>> should also be valid. In other words, you can't have time dilation without having length contraction.
> 
> If I need a sofa for my living room, I pull out my tape measure, and measure
> the length of the room.  Then in the furniture store, I measure the length of the sofa.
> 
> I don't invent fairy tales about the half life of sofas, based on their speed, seen
> from various frames, then derive their length from that.  I MEASURE THE SOFA!
> 
> Your argument is unscience and unlogical.  One doesn't invent a theory, then
> deduce the outcome of experiments which HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMED,
> then congratulate oneself for confirming the theory.

You were never thrown from a high tower to verify whether you
will splash onto the pavement. Let's not congratulate Newton
for his theory before we PERFORM THAT EXPERIMENT.

Dirk Vdm

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#587577

FromMikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Date2022-06-26 12:00 +0300
Message-ID<t9977s$3sc6c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#587550
On 2022-06-25 20:26:13 +0000, RichD said:

> One doesn't invent a theory, then deduce the outcome of experiments
> which HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMED, then congratulate oneself for confirming
> the theory.

Instead one invents a theory, then deduces the oucome of experiments
(or at least one experiment), then waits until someone performs the
experiment and observes the predicted result, then receives the Nobel
price.

Mikko

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#587614

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2022-06-27 11:21 -0700
Message-ID<3db3ede7-eca7-4c82-b062-8e6401bd5e9bn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587577
On June 26, Mikko wrote:
>> One doesn't invent a theory, then deduce the outcome of experiments 
>> which HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMED, then congratulate oneself for confirming 
>> the theory.
>
> Instead one invents a theory, then deduces the oucome of experiments,
> then waits until someone performs the experiment and observes the predicted 
> result, then receives the Nobel price. 

Right.
So one invents a theory which predicts a meter stick moving at 
√(3/4) c will measure as .5 meter.

We're still waiting for confirmation on that one - 

--
Rich

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#587623

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2022-06-27 23:32 +0200
Message-ID<t9d7m9$odqm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#587614
Op 27-jun.-2022 om 20:21 schreef RichD:
> On June 26, Mikko wrote:
>>> One doesn't invent a theory, then deduce the outcome of experiments
>>> which HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMED, then congratulate oneself for confirming
>>> the theory.
>>
>> Instead one invents a theory, then deduces the oucome of experiments,
>> then waits until someone performs the experiment and observes the predicted
>> result, then receives the Nobel price.
> 
> Right.
> So one invents a theory which predicts a meter stick moving at
> √(3/4) c will measure as .5 meter.
> 
> We're still waiting for confirmation on that one -

We're still waiting on confirmation of an idiot getting
smeared all over the pavement.

Dirk Vdm

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#587512

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-24 13:23 -0700
Message-ID<8251c310-aeea-49af-ab8e-fefb80dc2a37n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587510
On Friday, 24 June 2022 at 21:57:05 UTC+2, det...@outlook.com wrote:
> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation. 

In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden by your
insane religion GPS and TAI keep measuring t'=t, just like
all serious clocks always did.

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#587513

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2022-06-24 22:40 +0200
Message-ID<1pu2qy8.1e3i0ig1czmb0mN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#587510
Ed Lake <detect@outlook.com> wrote:

> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:50:48 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
> > On June 22, Mikko wrote: 
> > > > Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation-Experiments.html
> > > 
> > > Here is another link: 
> > > http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html
> > Which one tests length contraction? 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Rich
> 
> None of them.  As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed
> by any experiment.  The experiments just confirm time dilation.

Time dilation, as we observe for the fast muon
is seen by the muon as length contraction.
It's two sides of the same coin,

Jan
(see my Mr. Tompkins posting)

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#587523

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2022-06-24 17:50 -0700
Message-ID<dd5c1798-576a-4994-9392-6ad32dc8b7d2n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587513
On June 24, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html 
>
>>> Which one tests length contraction? 
> 
>> As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed 
>> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation.
>
> Time dilation, as we observe for the fast muon 
> is seen by the muon as length contraction. 

Has anyone asked the muon what he sees?

--
Rich

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#587528

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-24 22:58 -0700
Message-ID<a4092211-e0e2-4af7-b976-f6babac23d8en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587523
On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 02:50:28 UTC+2, RichD wrote:
> On June 24, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> >>>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html 
> > 
> >>> Which one tests length contraction? 
> >
> >> As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed 
> >> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation. 
> > 
> > Time dilation, as we observe for the fast muon 
> > is seen by the muon as length contraction.
> Has anyone asked the muon what he sees? 

Do you suggest that muons can be cranks
not seeing the wisdom of Giant Guru? A nonsense;
how could a muon be a crank?

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#587533

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2022-06-25 10:23 +0200
Message-ID<1pu3n66.19j1gwy1skj443N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#587523
RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On June 24, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html
> >
> >>> Which one tests length contraction? 
> > 
> >> As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed 
> >> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation.
> >
> > Time dilation, as we observe for the fast muon 
> > is seen by the muon as length contraction. 
> 
> Has anyone asked the muon what he sees?

Muons can't speak,

Jan
(who can play dumb too)

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#587536

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-25 03:13 -0700
Message-ID<64b44d9b-c440-4ef7-99d4-00c61acb6f21n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587533
On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 10:23:48 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> > On June 24, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > >>>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html 
> > > 
> > >>> Which one tests length contraction? 
> > > 
> > >> As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed 
> > >> by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation. 
> > > 
> > > Time dilation, as we observe for the fast muon 
> > > is seen by the muon as length contraction. 
> > 
> > Has anyone asked the muon what he sees?
> Muons can't speak, 

If they could they would say that our Giant Guru was 
ingenious and praise his infinite wisdom, no  doubt.
Or they would be stupid cranks if they didn't.

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#587527

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-24 22:55 -0700
Message-ID<d726fd95-079d-4844-82dc-3f96fbed9a8dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587513
On Friday, 24 June 2022 at 22:40:52 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Ed Lake <det...@outlook.com> wrote: 
> 
> > On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:50:48 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote: 
> > > On June 22, Mikko wrote: 
> > > > > Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation-Experiments.html 
> > > > 
> > > > Here is another link: 
> > > > http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html 
> > > Which one tests length contraction? 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Rich 
> > 
> > None of them. As far as I know, length contraction has never been confirmed 
> > by any experiment. The experiments just confirm time dilation.
> Time dilation, as we observe for the fast muon 

In the meantime in the real world, however, forbidden by your
bunch of idiots GPS and TAI keep measuring t'=t, just like
all serious clocks always did.

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#587535

FromMikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Date2022-06-25 12:18 +0300
Message-ID<t96js8$3gftl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#587506
On 2022-06-24 18:50:45 +0000, RichD said:

> On June 22, Mikko wrote:
>>> Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation-Experiments.html
>> 
>> Here is another link:
>> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html
> 
> Which one tests length contraction?

So far no experiment has directly tested length contraction. It is not
that easy to measure the length of an moving object.

There are indirect confirmations. For example, the null result of
Michelson-Morley experiment cannot be explained with time dilation
but can be explained with length contraction. Likewise, length
contraction can explain the magnetic field around an electric current
but time diation can't.

More generally, if length contraction is not true then Special and
General Relativities aren't, either. But in that case there should
be other deviations besides length contraction, and none is observed.
That is another indirect confirmation of length contraction.

Indirect confirmations are less convincing than direct ones as there
is always a possibility that the confirming results follow from some
unknown effects even when no such explanations are known.

Mikko

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#587537

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-25 03:14 -0700
Message-ID<859cd5c2-d62f-45e7-8f45-a0843a9a2d1en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587535
On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 11:18:03 UTC+2, Mikko wrote:
> On 2022-06-24 18:50:45 +0000, RichD said: 
> 
> > On June 22, Mikko wrote: 
> >>> Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation-Experiments.html 
> >> 
> >> Here is another link: 
> >> http://sasuke.econ.hc.keio.ac.jp/~ken/physics-faq/experiments.html 
> > 
> > Which one tests length contraction?
> So far no experiment has directly tested length contraction. It is not 
> that easy to measure the length of an moving object. 
> 
> There are indirect confirmations. For example, the null result of 

In the meantime in the real world, forbidden by your
insane religion GPS and TAI keep measuring t'=t, just
like all serious clocks always did.

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#587600

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-06-26 20:24 -0700
Message-ID<62B922E9.399@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#587537
I just don't understand
if a clock is at a mountain and
the other clock is on the ground level...
how does time dilation occur at both clocks
at the same time?

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#587603

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2022-06-27 09:30 +0200
Message-ID<1pu76kv.pq2jd41k1wleeN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#587600
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> I just don't understand
> if a clock is at a mountain and
> the other clock is on the ground level...
> how does time dilation occur at both clocks
> at the same time?

It doesn't occur at one time, it occurs all the time.
The clock on top of the mountain just runs faster.
For a thousand meter high mountain it will gain
about 10 nanoseconds per day wrt to a clock at sea level.

This was known and understood more than 50 years ago.
(and confirmed experimentally)

It is routinely accounted for when calculating
-the- atomic time, TAI, by averaging the readings
of hundreds of clocks situated all over the Earth.
(at different altitudes of course)

Jan


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#587604

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-27 02:09 -0700
Message-ID<07e9306d-23af-40f5-b434-a12d7a8bf04en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587603
On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 09:30:50 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: 
> 
> > I just don't understand 
> > if a clock is at a mountain and 
> > the other clock is on the ground level... 
> > how does time dilation occur at both clocks 
> > at the same time?
> It doesn't occur at one time, it occurs all the time. 
> The clock on top of the mountain just runs faster. 

Against the Holiest Postulate of your idiot
guru, demanding it to run at the same rate,
and demanding you to mumble that "it runs 
at the same rate but its spacetime trajectory 
blahblahblahblah..."

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#587610

FromTom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date2022-06-27 11:04 -0500
Message-ID<vO6dnQIwx99pSST_nZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#587603
On 6/27/22 2:30 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> The clock on top of the mountain just runs faster.

No, it doesn't. The clocks each run (tick) at the same rate. But because
spacetime is curved due to earth's mass, COMPARISONS of the clocks show
a difference in how they accumulate ticks.

Analogy: A carpenter's level in New York shows a horizontal line, and an
identical level in Chicago also shows a horizontal line. But these two
lines are not parallel, because the earth's surface is CURVED.

Similarly, a clock at the top of the mountain ticks one second per
second, and an identical clock in the valley ticks one second per
second. But when one compares how they accumulate ticks, they disagree
because spacetime is CURVED. In particular, the dominant curvature is
along the time dimension, which is unfamiliar to most people; it
directly affects such comparisons.

In GR this is easily explained: the two clocks follow different paths
through spacetime. If one modeled them as ticking at different rates,
one would not get correspondence with actual clocks in the world we inhabit.

> For a thousand meter high mountain it will gain about 10 nanoseconds 
> per day wrt to a clock at sea level.

Yes. But still, both clocks tick at the same rate.

> This was known and understood more than 50 years ago. (and confirmed 
> experimentally)

Yes, but this is more subtle than many people understand, and the
details were not adequately understood by many of the writers of popular
science books. And writers around here.

> It is routinely accounted for when calculating -the- atomic time, 
> TAI, by averaging the readings of hundreds of clocks situated all 
> over the Earth. (at different altitudes of course)

Yes.

Tom Roberts

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#587611

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-27 10:23 -0700
Message-ID<cf7784c1-797a-45be-9793-971344ec58bdn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#587610
On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 9:04:12 AM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 6/27/22 2:30 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote: 
> > The clock on top of the mountain just runs faster.
> No, it doesn't. The clocks each run (tick) at the same rate. But because 
> spacetime is curved due to earth's mass, COMPARISONS of the clocks show 
> a difference in how they accumulate ticks. 
> 
> Analogy: A carpenter's level in New York shows a horizontal line, and an 
> identical level in Chicago also shows a horizontal line. But these two 
> lines are not parallel, because the earth's surface is CURVED. 
> 
> Similarly, a clock at the top of the mountain ticks one second per 
> second, and an identical clock in the valley ticks one second per 
> second. But when one compares how they accumulate ticks, they disagree 
> because spacetime is CURVED. In particular, the dominant curvature is 
> along the time dimension, which is unfamiliar to most people; it 
> directly affects such comparisons. 
> 
> In GR this is easily explained: the two clocks follow different paths 
> through spacetime. If one modeled them as ticking at different rates, 
> one would not get correspondence with actual clocks in the world we inhabit.
> > For a thousand meter high mountain it will gain about 10 nanoseconds 
> > per day wrt to a clock at sea level.
> Yes. But still, both clocks tick at the same rate.
> > This was known and understood more than 50 years ago. (and confirmed 
> > experimentally)
> Yes, but this is more subtle than many people understand, and the 
> details were not adequately understood by many of the writers of popular 
> science books. And writers around here.
> > It is routinely accounted for when calculating -the- atomic time, 
> > TAI, by averaging the readings of hundreds of clocks situated all 
> > over the Earth. (at different altitudes of course)
> Yes. 
> 
> Tom Roberts

Don't all cases of "time dilation" have as well a model where 
"time dilation (and length contraction) is explained as 
space contraction".

?

It's pretty firmly held that time invariance has always 
been held up, a clock hypothesis and all, ....



According to cosmology today, the cosmological constant 
is about zero, ..., for a theory where it's non-zero, it's about 
infinitesimal, ..., mathematics _owes_ physics more real 
mathematics of infinities and infinitiesimals, to explain singularities, 
which include both usual asymptotes as what go to infinity, 
or poles, and polar theory, and also origins, like a spiral-space-filling 
curve, what happens to be a singularity, and has curvature like 1/R and 
happens to fit with a cosmological about zero or "1 / infinity, 
sums over infinitely-many to 1".

About "the real metric" or "R-metric".

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