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Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2022-06-11 00:31 -0700
Last post2022-06-13 11:19 +0200
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  Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-11 00:31 -0700
    Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-06-11 09:59 +0200
    Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2022-06-11 05:56 -0700
    Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-11 11:29 -0700
      Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-06-11 15:15 -0700
        Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-06-11 15:20 -0700
          Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-06-11 21:34 -0500
        Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-06-11 16:02 -0700
          Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-06-11 23:23 -0700
            Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-06-11 23:31 -0700
          Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-06-12 19:06 +0200
    Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-12 09:37 +0200
      Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-06-12 19:11 +0200
        Re: Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-06-13 11:19 +0200

#586754 — Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-06-11 00:31 -0700
SubjectSurely you're joking Mr. Feynman?
Message-ID<62A444CD.5F24@ix.netcom.com>
Los Angeles Times,

daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the 
appointee's wife was granted a divorce 

His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when 
she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he 
flew into a violent rage, during which time he chocked her, threw 
pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article 
reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in 
favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile, 
furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two 
years and $250 a month for a third year. 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#586756

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date2022-06-11 09:59 +0200
Message-ID<jgj0anFdha8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#586754
On 2022-06-11 07:31:25 +0000, The Starmaker said:

> Los Angeles Times,
> 
> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the
> appointee's wife was granted a divorce
> 
> His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when
> she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
> flew into a violent rage, during which time he chocked her, threw
> pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article
> reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in
> favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile,
> furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two
> years and $250 a month for a third year.

And how does that affect the question of whether relativity is correct 
or not? Likewise, how do Einstein's defects of character affect the 
question of whether relativity is correct or not?

To take a less familiar example, the chemist Hermann Leuchs was a 
horrible person (a nazi who committed suicide on the day that he 
learned that Hitler had died), but that didn't mean that his work on 
Leuchs anhydride was worthless. It didn't inhibit Michael Sela, the 
distinguished Israeli biochemist (and until a couple of weeks ago the 
oldest living well known biochemist), from basing his early work on 
that of Leuchs.

-- 
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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#586759

Fromrotchm <rotchm@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-11 05:56 -0700
Message-ID<ecfd1b5c-fb82-4364-b4d4-8edd37cca738n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#586754
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:30:40 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Los Angeles Times, 
> 
> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the 
> appointee's wife was granted a divorce 


Off topic.
Spam reported.

I incite others to do the same.

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#586775

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-06-11 11:29 -0700
Message-ID<62A4DEED.CDD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586754
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Los Angeles Times,
> 
> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the
> appointee's wife was granted a divorce
> 
> His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when
> she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
> flew into a violent rage, during which time he choked her, threw
> pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article
> reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in
> favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile,
> furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two
> years and $250 a month for a third year.
> 


I guess she told him..."Take your drums and beat it!"

"choked her"???? HE FUCKIN TRIED TO STRANGLE HER TO DEATH!



Attempted Murder and a Commie???   


He was invited to Russia to talk about atomic bombs.








-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#586780

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-11 15:15 -0700
Message-ID<599862bd-c97d-4db1-aeb3-d9ebdb10c562n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#586775
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 11:28:37 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote: 
> > 
> > Los Angeles Times, 
> > 
> > daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the 
> > appointee's wife was granted a divorce 
> > 
> > His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when 
> > she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
> > flew into a violent rage, during which time he choked her, threw
> > pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article 
> > reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in 
> > favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile, 
> > furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two 
> > years and $250 a month for a third year. 
> >
> I guess she told him..."Take your drums and beat it!" 
> 
> "choked her"???? HE FUCKIN TRIED TO STRANGLE HER TO DEATH! 
> 
> 
> 
> Attempted Murder and a Commie??? 
> 
> 
> He was invited to Russia to talk about atomic bombs.
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb.
Why did he do it? Why would it be allowed without a consequence?


Mitchell Raemsch

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#586781

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-06-11 15:20 -0700
Message-ID<62A51519.62DC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#586780
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 11:28:37 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Los Angeles Times,
> > >
> > > daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the
> > > appointee's wife was granted a divorce
> > >
> > > His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when
> > > she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
> > > flew into a violent rage, during which time he choked her, threw
> > > pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article
> > > reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in
> > > favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile,
> > > furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two
> > > years and $250 a month for a third year.
> > >
> > I guess she told him..."Take your drums and beat it!"
> >
> > "choked her"???? HE FUCKIN TRIED TO STRANGLE HER TO DEATH!
> >
> >
> >
> > Attempted Murder and a Commie???
> >
> >
> > He was invited to Russia to talk about atomic bombs.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb.
> Why did he do it? Why would it be allowed without a consequence?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch


I didn't know he cracked the government safes containing the design of
the atomic bomb.


One commie at a time please...

i'm still working on Einstein.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#586795

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-06-11 21:34 -0500
Message-ID<jgl1mdFo72uU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#586781
On 6/11/2022 5:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 11:28:37 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Los Angeles Times,
>>>>
>>>> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the
>>>> appointee's wife was granted a divorce
>>>>
>>>> His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when
>>>> she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
>>>> flew into a violent rage, during which time he choked her, threw
>>>> pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article
>>>> reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in
>>>> favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile,
>>>> furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two
>>>> years and $250 a month for a third year.
>>>>
>>> I guess she told him..."Take your drums and beat it!"
>>>
>>> "choked her"???? HE FUCKIN TRIED TO STRANGLE HER TO DEATH!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attempted Murder and a Commie???
>>>
>>>
>>> He was invited to Russia to talk about atomic bombs.
>>> --
>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> and challenge
>>> the unchallengeable.
>>
>> He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb.
>> Why did he do it? Why would it be allowed without a consequence?
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> I didn't know he cracked the government safes containing the design of
> the atomic bomb.
> 
> 
> One commie at a time please...
> 
> i'm still working on Einstein.

Based on today's posting you've not been very successful in this task.

Please check the facts before posting nonsense to usenet.

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#586787

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-11 16:02 -0700
Message-ID<8e1048f0-319a-4f60-b78c-f04d5091c7d5n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#586780
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:15:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb. 

And your evidence for this wild claim is what, Mitch?

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#586803

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-11 23:23 -0700
Message-ID<15971e9c-a351-4802-8c17-f5678b861383n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#586787
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 4:02:02 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:15:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb.
> And your evidence for this wild claim is what, Mitch?

Paul? It is well known you moron.

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#586805

FromPaul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com>
Date2022-06-11 23:31 -0700
Message-ID<9f0bbaf9-5292-4738-8a18-dd942a1d1433n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#586803
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 11:23:16 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 4:02:02 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote: 
> > On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:15:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > 
> > > He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb. 

> > And your evidence for this wild claim is what, Mitch?

> Paul? It is well known you moron.

Not by me, Mitch, I need to see your evidence... got any?

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#586827

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date2022-06-12 19:06 +0200
Message-ID<jgmko2F20cgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#586787
On 2022-06-11 23:02:01 +0000, Paul Alsing said:

> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:15:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> He cracked the government safes containing the design of the atomic bomb.
> 
> And your evidence for this wild claim is what, Mitch?

He explained it in "Surely you're joking, Mr Feynman". It wasn't to 
help the Russians; it was to convince the people around him that weak 
security was no better than no security at all. Many of the safes were 
"protected" by manufacturer-installed codes like 12345. Today some 
people "lock" their telephones with 0000.


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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#586809

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2022-06-12 09:37 +0200
Message-ID<1ptf7i8.soqj8h1fa8k0mN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#586754
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Los Angeles Times,
> 
> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the 
> appointee's wife was granted a divorce 
> 
> His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when 
> she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he 
> flew into a violent rage, during which time he chocked her, threw 
> pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article 
> reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in 
> favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile, 
> furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two 
> years and $250 a month for a third year. 

You really should find out how divorce law worked,
in the fifties, in the USA, 
(Hint: by agreed upon lie)

Jan

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#586828

FromAthel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date2022-06-12 19:11 +0200
Message-ID<jgml2fF2216U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#586809
On 2022-06-12 07:37:35 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:

> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
>> Los Angeles Times,
>> 
>> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the
>> appointee's wife was granted a divorce
>> 
>> His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when
>> she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
>> flew into a violent rage, during which time he chocked her, threw
>> pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article
>> reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in
>> favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile,
>> furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two
>> years and $250 a month for a third year.
> 
> You really should find out how divorce law worked,
> in the fifties, in the USA,
> (Hint: by agreed upon lie)

In England, and doubtless elsewhere, there were young women who were 
professional co-respondents, paid to be "found" by a private detective 
in bed in a hotel with a wayward husband. They were not usually 
prostitutes, and they weren't expected to do anything bed except to lie 
there when the detective burst in.

-- 
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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#586884

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2022-06-13 11:19 +0200
Message-ID<1ptgfn7.19lm3n21vr3cp4N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#586828
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

> On 2022-06-12 07:37:35 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
> 
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Los Angeles Times,
> >> 
> >> daily newspaper, dated 7/18/56, to the effect that the
> >> appointee's wife was granted a divorce
> >> 
> >> His ex-wife reportedly testified that on several occasions when
> >> she unwittingly disturbed either his calculus or his drums he
> >> flew into a violent rage, during which time he chocked her, threw
> >> pieces of bric-a-brac about and smashed the furniture. This article
> >> reflects that the court approved a $7500 cash settlement in
> >> favor of the appointee's ex-wife, giving her an automobile,
> >> furniture and objects of art, as well as $300 per month for two
> >> years and $250 a month for a third year.
> > 
> > You really should find out how divorce law worked,
> > in the fifties, in the USA,
> > (Hint: by agreed upon lie)
> 
> In England, and doubtless elsewhere, there were young women who were 
> professional co-respondents, paid to be "found" by a private detective
> in bed in a hotel with a wayward husband. They were not usually 
> prostitutes, and they weren't expected to do anything bed except to lie
> there when the detective burst in.

A bit crude. In other countries a 'big lie' will do.
(but not in the USA at the time afaik)
Mental cruelty otoh was a suitable ground for divorce.

So they married, hardly knowing each other, and it didn't work out,
and after a time they both wanted a divorce.
It is impossible from this time and distance
to get an idea of how much reality there is to all the stories,
and how much was made up for the purpose of getting a divorce,

Jan

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