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| Started by | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2022-04-19 08:33 -0700 |
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Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 08:33 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-04-19 09:12 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 09:36 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 17:05 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2022-04-19 10:40 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 11:09 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 16:09 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 17:16 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 19:56 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-19 23:26 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-19 22:40 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-19 23:39 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-20 11:22 +0200
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-20 10:24 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-20 10:54 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-20 11:17 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-21 19:02 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 16:17 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-21 23:04 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-21 23:21 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 00:01 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-22 15:10 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 14:08 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-22 18:33 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-22 20:47 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-22 21:24 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 23:42 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-23 21:57 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-26 10:03 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-23 08:11 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-22 15:16 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 09:40 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 16:52 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-21 11:47 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-21 21:59 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-21 13:23 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 11:08 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-21 12:01 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 19:15 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 12:43 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 21:07 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 14:47 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 22:01 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 15:22 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 00:26 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 22:23 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 12:10 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 08:43 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 16:28 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 10:07 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 18:15 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 11:52 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 14:00 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Kye Egonidis <qliz@xuelxjxk.io> - 2022-04-22 21:07 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 14:13 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Kye Egonidis <qliz@xuelxjxk.io> - 2022-04-22 21:20 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 15:23 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Kye Egonidis <qliz@xuelxjxk.io> - 2022-04-22 22:31 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 21:16 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-22 15:25 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 19:39 +0000
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 12:51 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-21 23:27 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 21:23 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-21 18:59 -0400
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-21 11:53 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 16:14 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 16:22 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 07:31 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 09:50 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-24 20:40 -0700
Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-26 10:19 -0700
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 08:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? |
| Message-ID | <41ddb03a-b0a9-4e3d-b83b-4b7b5e029220n@googlegroups.com> |
As modern "astronomy" is stuck with the narrative that planets were created
about 4.4 billion years ago, supporting Laplace's nebular theory, two simple
questions arise:
1) How old is each planet, since the formation of the Sun (in a form that can
be related to this Sun of our days).
2) What happened with the 5th. planet, which should be between Mars and
Jupiter, following the Titius–Bode “Law”?
Titius pointed out that the mean distance d in astronomical units (AU) from
the Sun to each of the six known planets was approximated by the equation
d = 0.4 + 0.3 (2ᴷ), where K = −∞, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5
This empirical law is valid nowadays up to Neptune, as this table shows:
Planet K Axis (AU) Titius–BodeLaw (AU)
Mercury −∞ 0.39 0.4
Venus 0 0.72 0.7
Earth 1 1.00 1.0
Mars 2 1.52 1.6
? 3
Jupiter 4 5.20 5.2
Saturn 5 9.54 10.0
Uranus 6 19.18 19.6
Neptune 7 30.06 38.8
Einstein's theories have a say on this, relativists?
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| From | patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 09:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <89c8ebb0-9ed9-4ef1-bbf0-93f4ba7bc6b8n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583369 |
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > As modern "astronomy" is stuck with the narrative that planets were created > about 4.4 billion years ago, supporting Laplace's nebular theory, two simple > questions arise: > > 1) How old is each planet, since the formation of the Sun (in a form that can > be related to this Sun of our days). > > 2) What happened with the 5th. planet, which should be between Mars and > Jupiter, following the Titius–Bode “Law”? > > Titius pointed out that the mean distance d in astronomical units (AU) from > the Sun to each of the six known planets was approximated by the equation > > d = 0.4 + 0.3 (2ᴷ), where K = −∞, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5 > > This empirical law is valid nowadays up to Neptune, as this table shows: > > Planet K Axis (AU) Titius–BodeLaw (AU) > Mercury −∞ 0.39 0.4 > Venus 0 0.72 0.7 > Earth 1 1.00 1.0 > Mars 2 1.52 1.6 > ? 3 > Jupiter 4 5.20 5.2 > Saturn 5 9.54 10.0 > Uranus 6 19.18 19.6 > Neptune 7 30.06 38.8 > > Einstein's theories have a say on this, relativists? Is the reputed asteroid belt, supposedly between Mars and Jupiter, now a proven fiction?
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 09:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b835ddf6-f395-4c65-bb95-94ffcbcbf252n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583373 |
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:12:32 PM UTC-3, patdolan wrote: > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > > As modern "astronomy" is stuck with the narrative that planets were created > > about 4.4 billion years ago, supporting Laplace's nebular theory, two simple > > questions arise: > > > > 1) How old is each planet, since the formation of the Sun (in a form that can > > be related to this Sun of our days). > > > > 2) What happened with the 5th. planet, which should be between Mars and > > Jupiter, following the Titius–Bode “Law”? > > > > Titius pointed out that the mean distance d in astronomical units (AU) from > > the Sun to each of the six known planets was approximated by the equation > > > > d = 0.4 + 0.3 (2ᴷ), where K = −∞, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5 > > > > This empirical law is valid nowadays up to Neptune, as this table shows: > > > > Planet K Axis (AU) Titius–BodeLaw (AU) > > Mercury −∞ 0.39 0.4 > > Venus 0 0.72 0.7 > > Earth 1 1.00 1.0 > > Mars 2 1.52 1.6 > > ? 3 > > Jupiter 4 5.20 5.2 > > Saturn 5 9.54 10.0 > > Uranus 6 19.18 19.6 > > Neptune 7 30.06 38.8 > > > > Einstein's theories have a say on this, relativists? > Is the reputed asteroid belt, supposedly between Mars and Jupiter, now a proven fiction? I wrote "TRICKY" on purpose, on the topic of this thread. It seems that nobody noticed it, or don't want to ask why.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 17:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <t3mq5n$etk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #583373 |
patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:33:30 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: >> As modern "astronomy" is stuck with the narrative that planets were created >> about 4.4 billion years ago, supporting Laplace's nebular theory, two simple >> questions arise: >> >> 1) How old is each planet, since the formation of the Sun (in a form that can >> be related to this Sun of our days). >> >> 2) What happened with the 5th. planet, which should be between Mars and >> Jupiter, following the Titius–Bode “Law”? >> >> Titius pointed out that the mean distance d in astronomical units (AU) from >> the Sun to each of the six known planets was approximated by the equation >> >> d = 0.4 + 0.3 (2ᴷ), where K = −∞, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5 >> >> This empirical law is valid nowadays up to Neptune, as this table shows: >> >> Planet K Axis (AU) Titius–BodeLaw (AU) >> Mercury −∞ 0.39 0.4 >> Venus 0 0.72 0.7 >> Earth 1 1.00 1.0 >> Mars 2 1.52 1.6 >> ? 3 >> Jupiter 4 5.20 5.2 >> Saturn 5 9.54 10.0 >> Uranus 6 19.18 19.6 >> Neptune 7 30.06 38.8 >> >> Einstein's theories have a say on this, relativists? > > Is the reputed asteroid belt, supposedly between Mars and Jupiter, now a proven fiction? > you’re joking. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 10:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ade5743e-0061-44a8-9e8e-db821f76fcaan@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583376 |
El martes, 19 de abril de 2022 a las 13:06:02 UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com escribió: > patdolan <patd...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Is the reputed asteroid belt, supposedly between Mars and Jupiter, now a proven fiction? > > > you’re joking. > More precisely, he is trolling, which is what unemployed electrical engineers do.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 11:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <409932da-1e0c-4c76-bb62-eb155e5d76bbn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583380 |
And how the Oort Cloud fit into the narrative of how and when the planets were formed? How possibly the imbeciles posing as scientists are parroting around, unchallenged, about THE AGE of the Solar System? Not to mention THE AGE of our own galaxy, which only turned around only about 15 times, yet it managed to develop 100,000 million stars and, allegedly, 1 million planetary systems. How the fuck these imbeciles possibly know! Not to mention that the universe started from zero 14,000 million years ago, and managed to develop 1 quadrillion "observable" galaxies. And what our outer layer, the Oort Cloud? Allegedly, it's a spherical layer of icy objects surrounding our Sun, a star, and likely occupies space at a distance between about 2,000 and 10,000 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun. How much time took the Oort Cloud to develop itself on this current form? Does it imply that the farther celestial objects are, the older they are in our Solar System? Does it imply that Mercury was the LAST SUBSTANTIVE FART of our Sun, and his orbital path has ANOTHER explanation? Questions, questions! And ZERO ANSWER. Modern astrophysics and cosmology is maintained as a fucking house of sciencewhores. And Eddington-Einstein team was in charge of the first warewhore. Now look what cosmology and astronomy had become into! A fucking disgrace. And Einstein's GR can't answer the simplest question, because it's a pile of geometric shit (a totem for the fucking relativists).
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 16:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <96ea6f80-7b2d-4a7a-a915-4bb8debbe105n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583381 |
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 11:09:35 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > And how the Oort Cloud fit into the narrative of how and when the planets were formed? > > How possibly the imbeciles posing as scientists are parroting around, unchallenged, about THE AGE of the Solar System? > > Not to mention THE AGE of our own galaxy, which only turned around only about 15 times, yet it managed to develop 100,000 million > stars and, allegedly, 1 million planetary systems. How the fuck these imbeciles possibly know! > > Not to mention that the universe started from zero 14,000 million years ago, and managed to develop 1 quadrillion "observable" galaxies. > > And what our outer layer, the Oort Cloud? > > Allegedly, it's a spherical layer of icy objects surrounding our Sun, a star, and likely occupies space at a distance between about 2,000 and 10,000 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun. > > How much time took the Oort Cloud to develop itself on this current form? > > Does it imply that the farther celestial objects are, the older they are in our Solar System? > > Does it imply that Mercury was the LAST SUBSTANTIVE FART of our Sun, and his orbital path has ANOTHER explanation? > > Questions, questions! And ZERO ANSWER. > > Modern astrophysics and cosmology is maintained as a fucking house of sciencewhores. And Eddington-Einstein team was > in charge of the first warewhore. Now look what cosmology and astronomy had become into! > > A fucking disgrace. > > And Einstein's GR can't answer the simplest question, because it's a pile of geometric shit (a totem for the fucking relativists). Are you an anti-intellectual, Richard? "In an anti-intellectual society, people who know nothing about a complex subject are emboldened to ridicule experts who have spent a lifetime studying it." - George Kiser
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 17:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <56adce5e-5719-4f2d-aa2c-84ee0f847837n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583425 |
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:09:25 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
<snip>
> Are you an anti-intellectual, Richard?
>
> "In an anti-intellectual society, people who know nothing about a complex subject are emboldened to ridicule experts who have spent a lifetime studying it."
> - George Kiser
I'll make a couple of comments about your post:
1) An intellectual person: possessing or showing intellect or mental capacity, especially to a high degree (Dictionary.com).
According to this definition, I'm an intellectual person. Such ability is not learnt, but is given at birth and grows since that moment.
2) If you analyze your quote, it's not symmetrical. Kiser (?) failed to show the differences between anti-intellectuals (posed as dumb people)
with experts, presented as accumulators of knowledge. The first has zero knowledge and the second "has it all", on a give subject.
This is fallacious as hell, because the expert can be a complete retarded who wasted his life by focusing on a subject starting with
the wrong premises (like a relativist) and the "nobody" can be just a natural genius, who doesn't need to BORROW knowledge that
might CLOUD his lines of thought. The "nobody" maybe, and just for fun, made different hypotheses on the topic under "fire", gave
himself some answering, closing gaps, and drop the subject for a while because it's not of his main importance.
But the "nobody" accumulate different "pills" of knowledge along his life, which ferment on him cross-fertilization, while the expert
keep wasting his time accumulating hours around the same topic, digging deeper and deeper on it for nothing.
But the "nobody" has the upper hand of a superior intellect so, when he's in the right mood, just spit out a concise body of concepts
OR a compact body of "the right questions".
So, intellect prevails over knowledge EVERY SINGLE TIME, because intellect master knowledge in no time. Experts may require
a lifetime to reach such insight. Intellect is the ground upon which inquisitive minds harvest insights, without needed equations.
3) It's my planet, my solar system, my galaxy, my universe. So I'm perfectly entitled to talk about it, to question things about it and
to have particular ideas about it. It's not that I'm writing a fucking paper or a book about it, or that I'll try to make a living from my
ideas making lectures to idiots that pay to listen. I just wrote A FUCKING POST!
4) About experts who invested their fucking adult life to "master" a given topic or part of a field, I've read about assholes who invested
their professional life studying GR 400+ equations, their solutions and how to apply them on real science, FOR NOTHING.
Or people that invested half the time to master a particular subject, which costed them a nervous breakdown and becoming schizo
like DONO (AKA Adrian Sfarti). And these persons can't get back what they lost FOR NOTHING.
5) For me, it's very easy and pleasant to think about the universe and everything around it, in different stratums. But I do it as a mental
game before I fell slept OR when I'm taking a dump. Enjoying of a good associative memory, at any given instant, I can zoom out or
zoom in over concepts that I've accumulated over decades, without obsessions or hard work. The data is there, when I need it.
I have my own ideas about how everything came to work together in my perception of the universe, without them being encyclopedic.
Just using top-down approaches.
And when comparing my ideas with what I've read (and remember), many more questions about the popular narrative arise, because
I find them: absurd, incoherent, stupidly arrogant, based on ignorance, based on herd's mentality, fear of ridicule or just hard-wired in
the brain of multitude of imbeciles unable to dissent. I owe nothing to anybody, so I can speak freely and using my INTELLECTUAL
ABILITIES, which I've found (and proven so many times) that are significant.
But what about you, who claimed that what you forgot about physics is more than what I knew (as if you possibly could know).
Finally, I don't even agree with the nebular theory. I have my own, which I consider far better. And because of THAT, the topic of this
thread was about THE AGE OF OUR PLANETS.
But, as usual, nobody gives a shit about the main topic of a thread. Most just jump to conclusions, just to break balls.
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 19:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4cba579-fddf-4425-8255-73464ba30600n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583432 |
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 5:16:45 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:09:25 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: > > <snip> > > Are you an anti-intellectual, Richard? > > > > "In an anti-intellectual society, people who know nothing about a complex subject are emboldened to ridicule experts who have spent a lifetime studying it." > > - George Kiser > I'll make a couple of comments about your post: > > 1) An intellectual person: possessing or showing intellect or mental capacity, especially to a high degree (Dictionary.com). > According to this definition, I'm an intellectual person. Such ability is not learnt, but is given at birth and grows since that moment. > > 2) If you analyze your quote, it's not symmetrical. Kiser (?) failed to show the differences between anti-intellectuals (posed as dumb people) > with experts, presented as accumulators of knowledge. The first has zero knowledge and the second "has it all", on a give subject. > This is fallacious as hell, because the expert can be a complete retarded who wasted his life by focusing on a subject starting with > the wrong premises (like a relativist) and the "nobody" can be just a natural genius, who doesn't need to BORROW knowledge that > might CLOUD his lines of thought. The "nobody" maybe, and just for fun, made different hypotheses on the topic under "fire", gave > himself some answering, closing gaps, and drop the subject for a while because it's not of his main importance. > But the "nobody" accumulate different "pills" of knowledge along his life, which ferment on him cross-fertilization, while the expert > keep wasting his time accumulating hours around the same topic, digging deeper and deeper on it for nothing. > > But the "nobody" has the upper hand of a superior intellect so, when he's in the right mood, just spit out a concise body of concepts > OR a compact body of "the right questions". > > So, intellect prevails over knowledge EVERY SINGLE TIME, because intellect master knowledge in no time. Experts may require > a lifetime to reach such insight. Intellect is the ground upon which inquisitive minds harvest insights, without needed equations. > > 3) It's my planet, my solar system, my galaxy, my universe. So I'm perfectly entitled to talk about it, to question things about it and > to have particular ideas about it. It's not that I'm writing a fucking paper or a book about it, or that I'll try to make a living from my > ideas making lectures to idiots that pay to listen. I just wrote A FUCKING POST! > > 4) About experts who invested their fucking adult life to "master" a given topic or part of a field, I've read about assholes who invested > their professional life studying GR 400+ equations, their solutions and how to apply them on real science, FOR NOTHING. > Or people that invested half the time to master a particular subject, which costed them a nervous breakdown and becoming schizo > like DONO (AKA Adrian Sfarti). And these persons can't get back what they lost FOR NOTHING. > > 5) For me, it's very easy and pleasant to think about the universe and everything around it, in different stratums. But I do it as a mental > game before I fell slept OR when I'm taking a dump. Enjoying of a good associative memory, at any given instant, I can zoom out or > zoom in over concepts that I've accumulated over decades, without obsessions or hard work. The data is there, when I need it. > I have my own ideas about how everything came to work together in my perception of the universe, without them being encyclopedic. > Just using top-down approaches. > > And when comparing my ideas with what I've read (and remember), many more questions about the popular narrative arise, because > I find them: absurd, incoherent, stupidly arrogant, based on ignorance, based on herd's mentality, fear of ridicule or just hard-wired in > the brain of multitude of imbeciles unable to dissent. I owe nothing to anybody, so I can speak freely and using my INTELLECTUAL > ABILITIES, which I've found (and proven so many times) that are significant. > > But what about you, who claimed that what you forgot about physics is more than what I knew (as if you possibly could know). Yeah, this is pretty much guaranteed...and I'm pretty confident that I know what you know about physics... > > Finally, I don't even agree with the nebular theory... ... which is understandable since you have failed to study and comprehend it... I have my own, which I consider far better. And because of THAT, the topic of this thread was about THE AGE OF OUR PLANETS. ... yet another subject about which you have failed to study... > But, as usual, nobody gives a shit about the main topic of a thread. Most just jump to conclusions, just to break balls. The point is Richard, you know nothing about physics in general but are emboldened to ridicule experts who have spent a lifetime studying it. This is a fact from which you have no escape. In other words, you are just a common troll. Deal with it.
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| From | Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 23:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <t3nugp$fam$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #583381 |
On 4/19/2022 2:09 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > And how the Oort Cloud fit into the narrative of how and when the planets were formed? I'd figure all the planets plus the Oort Cloud formed pretty much all at the same time. > > How possibly the imbeciles posing as scientists are parroting around, unchallenged, about THE AGE of the Solar System? Unchallenged? These people almost certainly wrote papers which were peer reviewed, they had theses which they had to defend, and so forth. > > Not to mention THE AGE of our own galaxy, which only turned around only about 15 times, yet it managed to develop 100,000 million > stars and, allegedly, 1 million planetary systems. How the fuck these imbeciles possibly know! Do you think the stars were formed one at a time? Are you going to ask how China can have over a billion people when it takes a woman 9 months to produce just one baby? > > Not to mention that the universe started from zero 14,000 million years ago, and managed to develop 1 quadrillion "observable" galaxies. Again, do you think they developed one at a time? > > And what our outer layer, the Oort Cloud? > > Allegedly, it's a spherical layer of icy objects surrounding our Sun, a star, and likely occupies space at a distance between about 2,000 and 10,000 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun. > > How much time took the Oort Cloud to develop itself on this current form? Probably as long as it took to produce the planets. Maybe less time since the Oort Cloud didn't accumulate into a small number of large planets, while the planetesimals in the inner Solar system did. > > Does it imply that the farther celestial objects are, the older they are in our Solar System? Where did you get that idea? > > Does it imply that Mercury was the LAST SUBSTANTIVE FART of our Sun, Do you think Mercury is the youngest planet? Why? Do you think the planets were produced by the sun farting? > and his orbital path has ANOTHER explanation? Why would it *still* be on a not-quite-Newtonian orbit? Makes no sense. Mercury wasn't created last year, you know. > > Questions, questions! And ZERO ANSWER. Lots of answers, if you know where to look. Fascinating subject. Did you know there are theories where the gas/ice giants once may have had different orbits, closer to the sun? There may even have been a third Neptune-sized planet, which was EJECTED from the solar system? (and before you go off into an OCD meltdown blaming "Einsteinians" for coming up with something 'crazy' like that, this involves only *Newtonian* mechanics!) Of course this makes the Titius–Bode “Law” rather meaningless if the orbits are all different now. Not that it was very good anyway, with the K term for Mercury being "−∞" when it should be -1, no planet between Mars and Jupiter, and Neptune is a rather poor fit (unless you learn mathematics from Archie Plutonium and his 'sigma errors') > > Modern astrophysics and cosmology is maintained as a fucking house of sciencewhores. And Eddington-Einstein team was > in charge of the first warewhore. Now look what cosmology and astronomy had become into! > > A fucking disgrace. > > And Einstein's GR can't answer the simplest question, because it's a pile of geometric shit (a totem for the fucking relativists). >
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 22:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <625F9CE9.75C6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #583369 |
Richard Hertz wrote: > > As modern "astronomy" is stuck with the narrative that planets were created > about 4.4 billion years ago, supporting Laplace's nebular theory, two simple > questions arise: > > 1) How old is each planet, since the formation of the Sun (in a form that can > be related to this Sun of our days). > > 2) What happened with the 5th. planet, which should be between Mars and > Jupiter, following the Titius–Bode “Law� > > Titius pointed out that the mean distance d in astronomical units (AU) from > the Sun to each of the six known planets was approximated by the equation > > d = 0.4 + 0.3 (2ᴷ), where K = −∞, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5 > > This empirical law is valid nowadays up to Neptune, as this table shows: > > Planet K Axis (AU) Titius–BodeLaw (AU) > Mercury −∞ 0.39 0.4 > Venus 0 0.72 0.7 > Earth 1 1.00 1.0 > Mars 2 1.52 1.6 > ? 3 > Jupiter 4 5.20 5.2 > Saturn 5 9.54 10.0 > Uranus 6 19.18 19.6 > Neptune 7 30.06 38.8 > > Einstein's theories have a say on this, relativists? In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. That means the heavens and the earth were created at the same time. Before the Big Bang...before the 'in the beginning'... stars existed. billions of stars trillions of stars no galaxies existed. stars gave birth to more stars.. snf never died.. eventually trillions and trillions of stars ran out of space... so a new systen was created.. heavens (energy) and the earth (mass)... and galaxies.. and stars are born and die. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-19 23:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ce267ddd-84d1-4b88-8fee-8cae7098a14dn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583369 |
On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 12:33:30 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > As modern "astronomy" is stuck with the narrative that planets were created > about 4.4 billion years ago, supporting Laplace's nebular theory, two simple > questions arise: > > 1) How old is each planet, since the formation of the Sun (in a form that can > be related to this Sun of our days). > > 2) What happened with the 5th. planet, which should be between Mars and > Jupiter, following the Titius–Bode “Law”? > > Titius pointed out that the mean distance d in astronomical units (AU) from > the Sun to each of the six known planets was approximated by the equation > > d = 0.4 + 0.3 (2ᴷ), where K = −∞, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5 > > This empirical law is valid nowadays up to Neptune, as this table shows: > > Planet K Axis (AU) Titius–BodeLaw (AU) > Mercury −∞ 0.39 0.4 > Venus 0 0.72 0.7 > Earth 1 1.00 1.0 > Mars 2 1.52 1.6 > ? 3 > Jupiter 4 5.20 5.2 > Saturn 5 9.54 10.0 > Uranus 6 19.18 19.6 > Neptune 7 30.06 38.8 > > Einstein's theories have a say on this, relativists? Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: • Terrestrial planets (inner, rocky, Earthlike) planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars. They have • Jovian planets (outer, Gas Giant)planets: Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune • More than 140 satellites (moons), except at Mercury and Venus: Earth has 1, Mars has 2, Jupiter has 62, Saturn has 43, Uranus has 24, and Neptune has 13. • Asteroids (minor planets) have nearly stable orbital paths, and form belts or clouds: Trojan cloud, which follows Jupiter’s orbit; main asteroid belt, between Mars and Jupiter; Kuiper belt, after Neptune (at around 200 AU) and Oort cloud (farther than 1,000 AU). The first two belts have almost elliptical orbits. This trend increasingly disappear with the other two. There are millions. • Comets: NASA registers about 1,800 but much more are believed to exist. They have highly eccentric orbits and usually orbit between Mercury-Venus and Neptune. Other, not registered, may have parabolic or hyperbolic orbits (only once) and pass behind the Sun, to later disappear forever. Many are destroyed by the strong gravitational pull when turning back behind the Sun. The accumulated mass of the two inner asteroid belts is calculated as close to that of the Moon, and it's believed that they were former protoplanets or "moons", destroyed by the gravitational pull between Jupiter and Saturn. The most common accepted theory of the formation of the Solar System is STILL the Laplace's nebular theory. But this theory FAILS explaining the existance of Jovian planets and asteroid belts. My understanding is that the celestial bodies formed in temporal layers, being Oort and Kupler asteroids the oldest celestial bodies in the Solar System. After that, giant spinning blobs left the Sun (under formation) and never had the chance to form solid "spheres", so remained giants. The rings around many of them could be the result of acreetion disks that left the main rotating blob, and condensed into minor objects orbiting gaseous giants like Saturn. Satellites (moons) are, IMHO, excretion from the rotating blobs expelled from the Sun, that kept orbiting the mother-body, like our Moon. They had the time and chance to cool off and became dead, inert objects which gained stable orbits along millions of years. The "explosion" of the rotating blob between Mars and Jupiter (Main asteroid belt) caused a RAIN of asteroids over the inner planets in a very short period of time. This caused the huge amount of craters on the inner planets, at an early stage of solidification. The particular case of the rotating blob expelled by the Sun, that became Mercury, didn't gain enough energy to have a normal, almost circular orbit like the other planets, and instead of leaving the surroundings like a giant comet, kept stuck into the highest eccentric orbit that a planet register. This explanation refute any theory based on Einstein's GR, and can be explained under purely newtonian concepts, IF a transition between a rotating blob in the way of forming a planet while escaping from the Sun is applied (from parabolic to highly elliptical orbital path). I stop here because I'm tired and this is not a blog, after all. I hope, MORONEY, that this presentation (which honor the topic of this thread) can make sense to you. If not, I don't give a shit, so keep doing your stuff.
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| From | nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) |
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| Date | 2022-04-20 11:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1pqpipd.1l9i6lrm673h4N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> |
| In reply to | #583462 |
Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: > The most common accepted theory of the formation of the Solar System is > STILL the Laplace's nebular theory. More accurately, Kant's nebular hypothesis, (yes, THAT Kant) or more commonly, the Kant-Laplace nebular hypothesis. Kant first proposed it, Laplace improved it, forty years later, Jan
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-20 10:24 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? |
| Message-ID | <626041C5.21EC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #583462 |
Richard Hertz wrote: > > Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the International Astronomical Union (IAU). Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the findings, so the findings are fraudalent. It is one or two that make the findings at the International Astronomical Union (IAU). The votes are rigged. In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and belongs in the trash can. you should know dis by now. There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the IAU members, except the big guy.) In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they kill him. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-20 10:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <626048D8.873@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #583489 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > > Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: > > Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... > > All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the > International Astronomical Union (IAU). > > Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the > findings, so the findings are fraudalent. > > It is one or two that make the findings at the International > Astronomical Union (IAU). > > The votes are rigged. > > In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. > > It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and > belongs in the trash can. > > you should know dis by now. > > There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the > IAU members, except the big guy.) > > In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they > kill him. The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-20 11:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <891f7bbf-967f-44d1-b421-3ec577baaf8cn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583495 |
On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > > > > > Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: > > > > Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... > > > > All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the > > International Astronomical Union (IAU). > > > > Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the > > findings, so the findings are fraudalent. > > > > It is one or two that make the findings at the International > > Astronomical Union (IAU). > > > > The votes are rigged. > > > > In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. > > > > It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and > > belongs in the trash can. > > > > you should know dis by now. > > > > There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the > > IAU members, except the big guy.) > > > > In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they > > kill him. > The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth > planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge > the unchallengeable. Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason. **************************************** The International Astronomical Union (IAU) downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet because it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses to define a full-sized planet. Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one—it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”Nov 19, 2019 ************************** Ever wondered why Pluto is no longer a planet? As we approach an international holiday known as Pluto Demoted Day, an expert explains why the dwarf planet is still super cool. Image without a caption By Jason Bittel August 23, 2021 at 5:00 p.m. EDT https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/kidspost/pluto-not-a-planet/2021/08/23/ae8fd57c-fbb8-11eb-8a67-f14cd1d28e47_story.html "When your parents were kids, Pluto was actually considered a planet. But 15 years ago, a group of scientists known as the International Astronomical Union voted to make the definition of “planets” more specific, and Pluto no longer made the cut. According to the IAU, Pluto is technically a “dwarf planet,” because it has not “cleared its neighboring region of other objects.” This means that Pluto still has lots of asteroids and other space rocks along its flight path, rather than having absorbed them over time, like the larger planets have done." **************************************** Mafia? And Ceres, in the Main asteroid belt? Einstenian mafia, pure and simple. They don't dare to apply GR 200+ equations beyond Mercury, because all of them are relativistic FAGGOTS, like Moroney (and I have some doubts about Bodkin, in this particular sense.)
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| From | Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-21 19:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <t3snpv$13id$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #583503 |
On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> Richard Hertz wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: >>> >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... >>> >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU). >>> >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent. >>> >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International >>> Astronomical Union (IAU). >>> >>> The votes are rigged. >>> >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. >>> >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and >>> belongs in the trash can. >>> >>> you should know dis by now. >>> >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the >>> IAU members, except the big guy.) >>> >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they >>> kill him. >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) >> -- >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, >> and challenge >> the unchallengeable. > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason. > [snip meltdown] Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared of objects other than themselves.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-21 16:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <90a3c8b8-e43a-4740-9510-16508737d4f8n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #583670 |
On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:02:27 PM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote: > On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> Richard Hertz wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: > >>> > >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... > >>> > >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the > >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU). > >>> > >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the > >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent. > >>> > >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International > >>> Astronomical Union (IAU). > >>> > >>> The votes are rigged. > >>> > >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. > >>> > >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and > >>> belongs in the trash can. > >>> > >>> you should know dis by now. > >>> > >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the > >>> IAU members, except the big guy.) > >>> > >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they > >>> kill him. > >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth > >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) > >> -- > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > >> and challenge > >> the unchallengeable. > > > > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the > > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason. > > > [snip meltdown] > > Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since > all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared > of objects other than themselves. Read my post, above, with detailed info directly from IAU database, imbecile. It's the Apr 20, 2022, 2:39:19 AM post (your local time, mine minus one hour).
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-21 23:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? |
| Message-ID | <62624560.4281@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #583674 |
Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:02:27 PM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote: > > On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Richard Hertz wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: > > >>> > > >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... > > >>> > > >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the > > >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU). > > >>> > > >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the > > >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent. > > >>> > > >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International > > >>> Astronomical Union (IAU). > > >>> > > >>> The votes are rigged. > > >>> > > >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. > > >>> > > >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and > > >>> belongs in the trash can. > > >>> > > >>> you should know dis by now. > > >>> > > >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the > > >>> IAU members, except the big guy.) > > >>> > > >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they > > >>> kill him. > > >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth > > >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) > > >> -- > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > >> and challenge > > >> the unchallengeable. > > > > > > > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the > > > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason. > > > > > [snip meltdown] > > > > Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since > > all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared > > of objects other than themselves. > > Read my post, above, with detailed info directly from IAU database, imbecile. > > It's the Apr 20, 2022, 2:39:19 AM post (your local time, mine minus one hour). Jupiter not a planet? If they are going to use 'definitions' to define planet, then the Earth is not a planet... since there ain't anything like it anywhere in the universe. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2022-04-21 23:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <62624976.669B@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #583695 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:02:27 PM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote: > > > On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Richard Hertz wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: > > > >>> > > > >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... > > > >>> > > > >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the > > > >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU). > > > >>> > > > >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the > > > >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent. > > > >>> > > > >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International > > > >>> Astronomical Union (IAU). > > > >>> > > > >>> The votes are rigged. > > > >>> > > > >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. > > > >>> > > > >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and > > > >>> belongs in the trash can. > > > >>> > > > >>> you should know dis by now. > > > >>> > > > >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the > > > >>> IAU members, except the big guy.) > > > >>> > > > >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they > > > >>> kill him. > > > >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth > > > >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) > > > >> -- > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > >> and challenge > > > >> the unchallengeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the > > > > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason. > > > > > > > [snip meltdown] > > > > > > Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since > > > all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared > > > of objects other than themselves. > > > > Read my post, above, with detailed info directly from IAU database, imbecile. > > > > It's the Apr 20, 2022, 2:39:19 AM post (your local time, mine minus one hour). > > Jupiter not a planet? > > If they are going to use 'definitions' to define planet, then the Earth > is not a planet... > since there ain't anything like it anywhere in the universe. Truth is...the word "dwarf planets" was invented when they voted Pluto not a planet. Before that, the term "dwarf planets" never existed. They just made it up. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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