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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2021-11-28 12:08 -0800 |
| Last post | 2021-12-01 16:10 -0800 |
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about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-28 12:08 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 20:26 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-28 12:53 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 14:22 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 18:26 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 03:32 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 03:36 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 19:57 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 20:05 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-29 00:32 -0500
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 14:21 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-11 11:16 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-12 13:48 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> - 2021-11-28 21:57 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-28 16:38 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 17:04 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-28 21:44 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-28 21:04 -0500
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 18:27 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-11-29 10:54 +0100
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 14:21 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2021-11-29 15:02 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 14:24 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> - 2021-11-29 22:51 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 23:31 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> - 2021-11-29 23:41 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 15:59 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 16:32 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 17:04 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 17:25 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-29 22:01 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-29 23:53 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 22:35 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 23:17 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 07:42 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 10:53 -0500
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:22 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 14:42 -0500
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 14:07 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 22:21 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-02 00:01 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-03 10:32 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 20:20 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 19:08 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 10:50 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 10:56 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 19:30 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 11:44 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 20:35 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 12:59 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 21:25 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 14:14 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 15:47 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 14:09 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-01 16:04 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-01 21:35 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 15:40 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-02 11:03 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 20:20 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-02 13:13 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 21:38 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 21:56 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-03 22:12 +0100
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 22:20 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 15:29 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 17:03 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 10:18 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 22:08 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 17:00 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 17:50 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-05 14:05 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-05 14:18 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-05 17:29 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 22:05 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 13:22 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-06 06:01 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-06 15:37 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 14:07 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-07 09:53 -0500
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 15:10 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 08:27 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 17:09 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 09:31 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 18:02 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 22:20 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 22:26 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2021-12-08 11:06 +0100
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 14:19 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 07:29 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 14:19 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-08 06:42 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 09:42 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-07 21:23 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 14:19 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-08 08:29 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 17:19 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-08 11:13 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 20:22 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-10 20:45 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-11 11:27 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-03 10:16 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 20:15 +0000
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 12:00 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 21:52 -0800
Crank Richard Hertz gets fresh asshole ripped with every post "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 22:25 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 11:22 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-30 22:26 -0800
Re: about The Odd Bodkin The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-12-01 16:10 -0800
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 14:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <so2nln$ppb$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568144 |
J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. >> >> He's not a Scientist >> >> He's not a Physicists >> >> He's not a Mathematician >> >> He's not a Philosopher > > Neither was Spinoza. > He was just a grinder of lenses, > and an instrument maker, > > Jan > Indeed. There are those here, including Richard Hertz for example, who believe that unless you pour your whole life into one interest and one occupation, you’re a failure. -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 15:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hCLwaFcgzWu-PgORdQIxoNzX5Dg@jntp> |
| In reply to | #568088 |
Le 28/11/2021 à 21:08, The Starmaker a écrit : > Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. > > He's not a Scientist > > He's not a Physicists > > He's not a Mathematician > > He's not a Philosopher > > > > He's just in fact... > > a woodworker, a carpenter.. > > > a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. Well ... Are you over your quarrels and childish whims? R.H.
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| From | Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 14:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ef6cba24-d62c-4669-9d5b-cfde8313a71en@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568088 |
On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. > > He's not a Scientist > > He's not a Physicists > > He's not a Mathematician > > He's not a Philosopher > > > > He's just in fact... > > a woodworker, a carpenter.. > > > a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. > > > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > the unchallengeable.
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| From | Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 22:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <so3lhe$1sm5$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568172 |
Ken Seto wrote: >> a woodworker, a carpenter.. a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. > > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. does not matter. You are still stealing theories, which makes you a stinking thief and liar. And a charlatan.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 23:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <so3nsr$scs$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568172 |
Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. >> >> He's not a Scientist >> >> He's not a Physicists >> >> He's not a Mathematician >> >> He's not a Philosopher >> >> >> >> He's just in fact... >> >> a woodworker, a carpenter.. >> >> >> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. > > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? >> >> >> >> -- >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge >> the unchallengeable. > -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 23:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <so3ofk$1sm5$7@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568182 |
Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> He's just in fact... a woodworker, a carpenter.. >>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. >> >> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. > > I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not > too far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He > does do some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I > am? a woodworker then.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 15:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <22c9e51a-339f-48fa-85ed-5f8e15a40a0cn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568182 |
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 8:31:42 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: <snip> > I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too > far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do > some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? Don't be so presumptuous, Bodkin. If you were a professor of philosophy, the students would beat the crap out of you before you'd finished the first and, also, last class. You're safe here, except for the crickets.
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 16:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8c09a425-ca89-4b0a-8de4-d714b11ddac3n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568182 |
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 3:31:42 PM UTC-8, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: > I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too > far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do > some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? IIRC, PD was from somewhere in Texas and was/is a former college physics professor... but I might be wrong. Bodkin, you would really enjoy PD, were he to be around again. I'm sure you can find his posts in the archives. In the meantime, here is something I found, as archived by Dirk Van de moortel... http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Gems/OffTrack.html ... it was addressed... "to those who find special relativity and quantum mechanics hard to swallow... You know who you are." I urge those "who know who they are" to read this, too... and here is a large list of Dirk's "Immortal Gems" for your entertainment... https://home.deds.nl/~dvdm/dirk/Physics/Gems/Bias.html ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know...
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 17:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ecc25108-7d97-47c5-ba85-0af302355f8fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568189 |
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: <snip> > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know... You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know. Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know. Your logic, as predictable, also fails.
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 17:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <289c2804-e700-462c-b7fa-77dccab3cd93n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568191 |
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: > > <snip> > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know... > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know. > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know. > > Your logic, as predictable, also fails. Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 22:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <61A5BE37.59E8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #568192 |
Paul Alsing wrote: > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know... > > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know. > > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know. > > > > Your logic, as predictable, also fails. > > Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless. the more you know the more you forget the more you forget the less you know the less you know the less you forget -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 23:53 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <61A5D87B.2B1E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #568202 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Paul Alsing wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: > > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know... > > > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know. > > > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know. > > > > > > Your logic, as predictable, also fails. > > > > Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless. > > the more you know > the more you forget > the more you forget > the less you know > the less you know > the less you forget the less you forget the more you know. > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 22:35 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7e5649ab-9911-4b4d-b82f-6a584d13a7c5n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568192 |
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 10:25:30 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: <snip> > > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know... > > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know. > > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know. > > > > Your logic, as predictable, also fails. > Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! You are clueless. Mmmm...., but you followed my deductive path (it has a fallacy within). Therefore, your 100% certainty in that you absolutely KNOW that I do not know what I do not know is a general rule. I do not know what I do not know. You do not know what you do not know. He/she does not know what he/she does not know. We do not know what we do not know. You do not know what you do not know. They do not know what they do not know. Apply it to stock market values next Friday, Moon landing, Special Relativity, expansion of the known universe, actual value of the charge of the electron when accelerated to (1-10E-10)c, Einstein cheated in Nov. 1915, the H bomb delivers 0.15 mc2, gravitational waves are phenomenon detected by LIGO with no prior assumptions (petitio principii), Kardashian is the real deal, galaxies beyond the edge of observable universe recedes faster than light, the gravitational constant G has the same value on Earth than in any planet at the Andromeda's galaxy or even another farther away, length contraction is real but still undetected. I could follow with this shit for one hour or more. I can make anything fit into the shadow of doubt. Now, how do you respond to this generalization of your 100% certainty knowledge? How do you fit into the picture? And Bodkin, etc.? See?. Always there is a reasonable margin of doubt that makes to talk about 100% of knowledge about something is for IMBECILES.
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-29 23:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9af5804e-8688-4ee5-b132-8460fe471613n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568192 |
On Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 02:25:30 UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote: > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:04:49 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:32:45 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > ... really good reading... especially for those of us who know what they don't know... > > You don't know how much you don't know, so you know that you don't know. Hence, you don't know what they don't know. > > Therefore, you know that you don't know what they don't know. > > > > Your logic, as predictable, also fails. > Well, I can claim, with 100% certainty, that you, Richard, absolutely do not know what you do not know! Unlike poor idiot Al and his fellow believers, knowing everything what they don't know.
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| From | Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 07:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <eb9ffb28-b032-4f70-ba73-e186f7123c0dn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #568182 |
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: > Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > >> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. > >> > >> He's not a Scientist > >> > >> He's not a Physicists > >> > >> He's not a Mathematician > >> > >> He's not a Philosopher > >> > >> > >> > >> He's just in fact... > >> > >> a woodworker, a carpenter.. > >> > >> > >> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. > > > > Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. > I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too > far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do > some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > >> the unchallengeable. > > > -- > Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 10:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <so5hcv$rab$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568220 |
On 11/30/2021 10:42 AM, Ken Seto wrote: > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. >> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too >> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do >> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? > > PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar. Aha! Proof that Odd really is PD! PD disappeared and Odd showed up at about the same time!! How could there be any other possibility!!! It's been a while since I've heard the crackpot song that every relativity supporter just has to be PD in disguise. They can't deal with the possibility that multiple people could agree with SR/GR and with each other.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <so5j4t$1plf$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568220 |
Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: >> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. >>>> >>>> He's not a Scientist >>>> >>>> He's not a Physicists >>>> >>>> He's not a Mathematician >>>> >>>> He's not a Philosopher >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> He's just in fact... >>>> >>>> a woodworker, a carpenter.. >>>> >>>> >>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. >>> >>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. >> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too >> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do >> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? > > PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar. Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If it is, we can just ask him. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge >>>> the unchallengeable. >>> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 14:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <so5uqc$1t2j$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568228 |
On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. >>>>> >>>>> He's not a Scientist >>>>> >>>>> He's not a Physicists >>>>> >>>>> He's not a Mathematician >>>>> >>>>> He's not a Philosopher >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> He's just in fact... >>>>> >>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. >>>> >>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. >>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too >>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do >>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? >> >> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar. > > Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If > it is, we can just ask him. > A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually, since some of them are old addresses of another entry. I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing somehow.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 14:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <61A6A085.260D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #568239 |
Michael Moroney wrote: > > On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. > >>>>> > >>>>> He's not a Scientist > >>>>> > >>>>> He's not a Physicists > >>>>> > >>>>> He's not a Mathematician > >>>>> > >>>>> He's not a Philosopher > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> He's just in fact... > >>>>> > >>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter.. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. > >>>> > >>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. > >>> I looked in Wikipedia. There’s a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too > >>> far from where you are in Ohio. But he’s a philosophy professor. He does do > >>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? > >> > >> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PD’s and Bodkin’s posts are similar. > > > > Doesn’t answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper you’re thinking of? If > > it is, we can just ask him. > > > A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually, > since some of them are old addresses of another entry. > I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing > somehow. TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!! He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd technical writer for sure... monopoly textbook publishers -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-30 22:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <so684s$iev$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #568250 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Michael Moroney wrote: >> >> On 11/30/2021 11:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 6:31:42 PM UTC-5, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Ken Seto <seto...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Let me give you some facts about The Odd Bodkin.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He's not a Scientist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He's not a Physicists >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He's not a Mathematician >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He's not a Philosopher >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He's just in fact... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a woodworker, a carpenter.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a maker of fine toys, tools, tables. >>>>>> >>>>>> Odd is Paul Draper, a failed physicist. >>>>> I looked in Wikipedia. Thereâs a Paul Draper at Purdue University, not too >>>>> far from where you are in Ohio. But heâs a philosophy professor. He does do >>>>> some stuff with philosophy of science. Is that who you think I am? >>>> >>>> PD disappeared and Odd Bodkin showed up. Both PDâs and Bodkinâs posts are similar. >>> >>> Doesnât answer my question. Is this the Paul Draper youâre thinking of? If >>> it is, we can just ask him. >>> >> A search turns up some 200+ Paul Drapers in the US. Fewer, actually, >> since some of them are old addresses of another entry. >> I vaguely remember "our" Paul Draper was involved in textbook publishing >> somehow. > > TEXTBOOK PUBLISHING???? NO WAY!! Yeah, not the business I’m in. > > He's a carpenter like Jesus Christ! from the bod of godd > > > technical writer for sure... Nah, that’s a whole different discipline. > > > monopoly textbook publishers Monopoly? There’s a boatload of competing publishers, how can there be a monopoly? It’s like car makers. Are all the dozens of carmakers monopolies if only the carmakers make cars? > > > > > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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