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Re: Einstein Lied Again

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  Re: Einstein Lied Again "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 10:45 -0800
    Re: Einstein Lied Again Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 12:35 -0800
      Re: Einstein Lied Again Raleigh Hobbs <rty@vbn.er> - 2021-11-14 21:04 +0000
        Re: Einstein Lied Again Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 13:32 -0800
          Despicable kapo Richard Hertz spews nazi propaganda "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 15:06 -0800
          Re: Einstein Lied Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-15 14:11 +0000
            Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-17 10:46 -0800
              Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-17 12:25 -0800
                Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-20 10:30 -0800
      Re: Einstein Lied Again Raleigh Hobbs <rty@vbn.er> - 2021-11-14 21:07 +0000
      Re: Einstein Lied Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-15 13:56 +0000
      Re: Einstein Lied Again "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-15 20:40 -0800
        Re: Einstein Lied Again Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-15 21:36 -0800
          Re: Einstein Lied Again Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-17 02:11 -0500
            Re: Einstein Lied Again Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-16 23:57 -0800
            Re: Einstein Lied Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 11:11 +0000
              Re: Einstein Lied Again Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 03:22 -0800
              Re: Einstein Lied Again Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2021-11-17 17:00 +0100
                Re: Einstein Lied Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 16:25 +0000
                  Re: Einstein Lied Again Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 09:51 -0800
                    Re: Einstein Lied Again Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 11:34 -0800
            Re: Einstein Lied Again "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 08:07 -0800
          Re: Einstein Lied Again Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 00:41 -0800

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#566717 — Re: Einstein Lied Again

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-14 10:45 -0800
SubjectRe: Einstein Lied Again
Message-ID<c050f99c-49de-4038-8883-22384be48ecbn@googlegroups.com>
Einstein had no reason to lie about the bomb you moron...
And He wasn't an atheist. That was the real lie...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#566729

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-14 12:35 -0800
Message-ID<bdd3fd04-eaf8-4cf7-9f64-f8b1bc00c610n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566717
On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:45:41 PM UTC-3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Einstein had no reason to lie about the bomb you moron... 
> And He wasn't an atheist. That was the real lie... 
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany 
obliterated (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that gave him all what he achieved. Period.

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#566733

FromRaleigh Hobbs <rty@vbn.er>
Date2021-11-14 21:04 +0000
Message-ID<smrtkc$gjr$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566729
Richard Hertz wrote:

> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:45:41 PM UTC-3, mitchr...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> Einstein had no reason to lie about the bomb you moron...
>> And He wasn't an atheist. That was the real lie...
>> 
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate
> (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany obliterated
> (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that gave him all
> what he achieved. Period.

he evaded and didn't defend his country as soldier, in the 1st world war. 
I found this inappropriated.

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#566737

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-14 13:32 -0800
Message-ID<5ab57f54-928d-487d-910d-8d8226f8dd89n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566733
On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:04:15 PM UTC-3, Raleigh Hobbs wrote:
> Richard Hertz wrote: 

<snip>

> > Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate 
> > (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany obliterated 
> > (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that gave him all 
> > what he achieved. Period.

> he evaded and didn't defend his country as soldier, in the 1st world war. 
> I found this inappropriated.

Almost every scientists in both sides (Germany vs. allies) did. Very MUCH MORE VALUABLE persons died on this duty, like
Schwarzschild (he enlisted being 41, by his own will), from a disease the got at the russian front, or many scientists from UK,
Russia and other countries (young or old).

 But Einstein and the homo Eddington were "conscience objectors pacifists". How convenient for two tremendous piece of shit.
They buttfucked one to each other, and enjoyed that, while decent people was dying. They became "secret best friends", to not
draw public attention, while meeting in private at Queen's castle after WWI. Historians remark this dark aspect of their relationship.

He was a coward in life, crying for foul actions against him all his life, one way or another. But didn't hesitate for 1 second to 
back-stab those who helped him, after he used them (chewing and spitting remains). He didn't pay attention to the gender, as he
tried anyone equally: if you are useful to me, you are my friend. 

Nobody can have 100s of friends, like the fucker used to tell: my friend X, my friend Y, ..... my friend 152 (Hilbert case is too much).

 

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#566743 — Despicable kapo Richard Hertz spews nazi propaganda

From"Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-14 15:06 -0800
SubjectDespicable kapo Richard Hertz spews nazi propaganda
Message-ID<e1192d61-ecf4-4363-a9c6-752374057ed8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566737
On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 1:32:50 PM UTC-8, despicable kapo Richard Hertz spewed some more nazi propaganda:
> snip spewed garbage<

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#566766

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-15 14:11 +0000
Message-ID<smtppn$1ur4$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566737
Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:04:15 PM UTC-3, Raleigh Hobbs wrote:
>> Richard Hertz wrote: 
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>> Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate 
>>> (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany obliterated 
>>> (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that gave him all 
>>> what he achieved. Period.
> 
>> he evaded and didn't defend his country as soldier, in the 1st world war. 
>> I found this inappropriated.
> 
> Almost every scientists in both sides (Germany vs. allies) did. Very MUCH
> MORE VALUABLE persons died on this duty, like
> Schwarzschild (he enlisted being 41, by his own will), from a disease the
> got at the russian front, or many scientists from UK,
> Russia and other countries (young or old).
> 
>  But Einstein and the homo Eddington were "conscience objectors
> pacifists". How convenient for two tremendous piece of shit.
> They buttfucked one to each other, and enjoyed that, while decent people
> was dying. They became "secret best friends", to not
> draw public attention, while meeting in private at Queen's castle after
> WWI. Historians remark this dark aspect of their relationship.

Good of you to say that those who went to war and died were the decent
ones, while anyone that stayed home and did not fight in combat are
detestable. Rose the Riveter will be horrified at her lapse of morals. 

Also good of you to glorify war in this way, making the combatants heroes
and the others just beneficiaries of that noblesse. In that sense, E Teller
must be a hero of yours, pouring his efforts into waging war effectively.
Oh wait, that’s not what you said at all, was it? 

I wonder now what exactly you ARE trying to say?

This must be one of those things where you are just “poking fun” to be
provocative. And so saying stupid things becomes a hobby in that pursuit?

> 
> He was a coward in life, crying for foul actions against him all his
> life, one way or another. But didn't hesitate for 1 second to 
> back-stab those who helped him, after he used them (chewing and spitting
> remains). He didn't pay attention to the gender, as he
> tried anyone equally: if you are useful to me, you are my friend. 
> 
> Nobody can have 100s of friends, like the fucker used to tell: my friend
> X, my friend Y, ..... my friend 152 (Hilbert case is too much).
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#567008

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-17 10:46 -0800
Message-ID<61954E03.17BE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566766
Odd Bodkin wrote:

> I wonder now what exactly you ARE trying to say?

> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables



Now, wait a minute.."you ARE"???? Is that English?


It's suppose to be: I wonder now what exactly ARE you trying to say?

or

I wonder now what exactly are YOU trying to say?


But "you ARE"????  dats bad gramma


tsk tsk tsk..





 

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#567017

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-17 12:25 -0800
Message-ID<6195651F.1D56@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#567008
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> > I wonder now what exactly you ARE trying to say?
> 
> > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Now, wait a minute.."you ARE"???? Is that English?
> 
> It's suppose to be: I wonder now what exactly ARE you trying to say?
> 
> or
> 
> I wonder now what exactly are YOU trying to say?
> 
> But "you ARE"????  dats bad gramma
> 
> tsk tsk tsk..
> 

How about: I wonder now what exactly you'RE trying to say?


ech, still don't sound write..


i tink the probem is the word "exactly" doesn't belong there..


I wonder now what you'RE trying to say?

or

I wonder now what you are trying to say?


somethin is wong.





> 
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#567305

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-20 10:30 -0800
Message-ID<61993ECD.3E1E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#567017
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >
> > > I wonder now what exactly you ARE trying to say?
> >
> > > Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> >
> > Now, wait a minute.."you ARE"???? Is that English?
> >
> > It's suppose to be: I wonder now what exactly ARE you trying to say?
> >
> > or
> >
> > I wonder now what exactly are YOU trying to say?
> >
> > But "you ARE"????  dats bad gramma
> >
> > tsk tsk tsk..
> >
> 
> How about: I wonder now what exactly you'RE trying to say?
> 
> ech, still don't sound write..
> 
> i tink the probem is the word "exactly" doesn't belong there..
> 
> I wonder now what you'RE trying to say?
> 
> or
> 
> I wonder now what you are trying to say?
> 
> somethin is wong.

How about:  I wonder now what you ARE trying to say...Exactly?

Naw, dat don't work..

How about: I wonder now what YOU are trying to say...Exactly?


Now, dat sounds better.



> 
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#566734

FromRaleigh Hobbs <rty@vbn.er>
Date2021-11-14 21:07 +0000
Message-ID<smrtpm$a7u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566729
Richard Hertz wrote:

> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:45:41 PM UTC-3, mitchr...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> Einstein had no reason to lie about the bomb you moron...
>> And He wasn't an atheist. That was the real lie...
>> 
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate
> (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany obliterated
> (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that gave him all
> what he achieved. Period.

the 1st world war is not mentioned anywhere in his papers. He just 
grabbed the ink and paper from the patent office.

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#566764

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-15 13:56 +0000
Message-ID<smtotg$1evq$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566729
Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:45:41 PM UTC-3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Einstein had no reason to lie about the bomb you moron... 
>> And He wasn't an atheist. That was the real lie... 
>> 
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate
> (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany 
> obliterated (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that
> gave him all what he achieved. Period.
> 

You know, when you go off into Sillyland like this just to be provocative,
the only one that looks like a complete idiot is you. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#566830

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-15 20:40 -0800
Message-ID<dd58966d-6703-42dc-9a47-101796e51f20n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566729
On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 12:35:30 PM UTC-8, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 3:45:41 PM UTC-3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > Einstein had no reason to lie about the bomb you moron... 
> > And He wasn't an atheist. That was the real lie... 
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> Einstein wanted the A-bombs dropped on Germany, due to his hate (justified or not, because he did good). He wanted Germany 
> obliterated (but no problems with Japan, SOB). The native country that gave him all what he achieved. Period.

Wanting to do something about Hitler is the problem?
He wanted no further involvement. Why would
he want it instead?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#566833

FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-15 21:36 -0800
Message-ID<9ca9c0f0-bd78-49bf-b257-3b673854d48an@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566830
On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 1:40:11 AM UTC-3, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> Wanting to do something about Hitler is the problem? 
> He wanted no further involvement. Why would he want it instead? 

Because his fears made him flee from Germany in 1933, and being 54 y.o., had to age doing nothing at a foreign country (US).

Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide.

Einstein probably dreamed of aging in his native country. He could have help MANY scientist being there. He was UNTOUCHABLE.

After all, by 1933 he had been the most famous scientist in the entire world for more than 14 years. Who would do something against him?

But he went deep in bitterness and resentment for German nationals and German establishment.

He (IMO) would have liked to see all of them obliterated (the nazi establishment).

Who could blame him?. He was human after all.

Hate  causes murder. Deep and spread hate cause genocides, and is used as a political tool for domination by those in power.

Just check the last 100 years in every continent, and tell me I'm wrong.

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#566962

FromMichael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Date2021-11-17 02:11 -0500
Message-ID<sn29uc$1de$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566833
On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

> Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide.

That is so wrong, it's absurd.

Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik" 
(Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist.
Only Deutsche Physik/Arische Physik (German/Aryan physics) was 
acceptable, it was part of the Nazi nationalistic movement.  Had they 
caught Einstein, he would have been first in line for the gas chamber, 
and made an example of.

The Nazis happily sent much of the extended family of WW1 German 
national hero Fritz Haber to the gas chambers. Haber invented a process 
to create ammonia in industrial quantities, an ingredient desperately 
needed by WW1 Germany to manufacture explosives, as well as much of the 
WW1 chemical warfare gases. Yet Haber was forced to resign his 
professorship shortly after the Nazis gained power, and died shortly 
after.  His partner, Max Born, had his doctorate and German citizenship 
cancelled, leaving him stateless. Fortunately for him he got out of 
Germany quickly.

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#566964

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-16 23:57 -0800
Message-ID<b73d5b65-1445-4ec8-8348-c590fb5c4250n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566962
On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 08:11:11 UTC+1, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> 
> > Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide.
> That is so wrong, it's absurd. 
> 
> Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik" 
> (Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist. 

And see, stupid Mike - it was somehow possible to be 
successful without the idiocies of your Giant Guru.

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#566966

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-17 11:11 +0000
Message-ID<sn2o0h$efj$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566962
Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
>> Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of
>> Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide.
> 
> That is so wrong, it's absurd.
> 
> Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik" 
> (Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist.
> Only Deutsche Physik/Arische Physik (German/Aryan physics) was 
> acceptable, it was part of the Nazi nationalistic movement.  Had they 
> caught Einstein, he would have been first in line for the gas chamber, 
> and made an example of.
> 
> The Nazis happily sent much of the extended family of WW1 German 
> national hero Fritz Haber to the gas chambers. Haber invented a process 
> to create ammonia in industrial quantities, an ingredient desperately 
> needed by WW1 Germany to manufacture explosives, as well as much of the 
> WW1 chemical warfare gases. Yet Haber was forced to resign his 
> professorship shortly after the Nazis gained power, and died shortly 
> after.  His partner, Max Born, had his doctorate and German citizenship 
> cancelled, leaving him stateless. Fortunately for him he got out of 
> Germany quickly.
> 

Richard calls his stupidities “intelligent sophistries”. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#566968

FromMaciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-17 03:22 -0800
Message-ID<78c93e77-a8b4-49f0-bcaa-44726abba428n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566966
On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 12:11:16 UTC+1, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Moroney <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote: 
> > On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of 
> >> Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide. 
> > 
> > That is so wrong, it's absurd. 
> > 
> > Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik" 
> > (Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist. 
> > Only Deutsche Physik/Arische Physik (German/Aryan physics) was 
> > acceptable, it was part of the Nazi nationalistic movement. Had they 
> > caught Einstein, he would have been first in line for the gas chamber, 
> > and made an example of. 
> > 
> > The Nazis happily sent much of the extended family of WW1 German 
> > national hero Fritz Haber to the gas chambers. Haber invented a process 
> > to create ammonia in industrial quantities, an ingredient desperately 
> > needed by WW1 Germany to manufacture explosives, as well as much of the 
> > WW1 chemical warfare gases. Yet Haber was forced to resign his 
> > professorship shortly after the Nazis gained power, and died shortly 
> > after. His partner, Max Born, had his doctorate and German citizenship 
> > cancelled, leaving him stateless. Fortunately for him he got out of 
> > Germany quickly. 
> >
> Richard calls his stupidities “intelligent sophistries”. 

You, on the other hand, call your stupidities "knowledge".

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#566983

FromDirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com>
Date2021-11-17 17:00 +0100
Message-ID<sn38v4$12dh$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566966
Op 17-nov.-2021 om 12:11 schreef Odd Bodkin:
> Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
>> On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>
>>> Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of
>>> Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide.
>>
>> That is so wrong, it's absurd.
>>
>> Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik"
>> (Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist.
>> Only Deutsche Physik/Arische Physik (German/Aryan physics) was
>> acceptable, it was part of the Nazi nationalistic movement.  Had they
>> caught Einstein, he would have been first in line for the gas chamber,
>> and made an example of.
>>
>> The Nazis happily sent much of the extended family of WW1 German
>> national hero Fritz Haber to the gas chambers. Haber invented a process
>> to create ammonia in industrial quantities, an ingredient desperately
>> needed by WW1 Germany to manufacture explosives, as well as much of the
>> WW1 chemical warfare gases. Yet Haber was forced to resign his
>> professorship shortly after the Nazis gained power, and died shortly
>> after.  His partner, Max Born, had his doctorate and German citizenship
>> cancelled, leaving him stateless. Fortunately for him he got out of
>> Germany quickly.
>>
> 
> Richard calls his stupidities “intelligent sophistries”.

Some call them "alternative facts".

Dirk Vdm

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#566986

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-17 16:25 +0000
Message-ID<sn3aej$1ts5$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#566983
Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> wrote:
> Op 17-nov.-2021 om 12:11 schreef Odd Bodkin:
>> Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of
>>>> Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide.
>>> 
>>> That is so wrong, it's absurd.
>>> 
>>> Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik"
>>> (Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist.
>>> Only Deutsche Physik/Arische Physik (German/Aryan physics) was
>>> acceptable, it was part of the Nazi nationalistic movement.  Had they
>>> caught Einstein, he would have been first in line for the gas chamber,
>>> and made an example of.
>>> 
>>> The Nazis happily sent much of the extended family of WW1 German
>>> national hero Fritz Haber to the gas chambers. Haber invented a process
>>> to create ammonia in industrial quantities, an ingredient desperately
>>> needed by WW1 Germany to manufacture explosives, as well as much of the
>>> WW1 chemical warfare gases. Yet Haber was forced to resign his
>>> professorship shortly after the Nazis gained power, and died shortly
>>> after.  His partner, Max Born, had his doctorate and German citizenship
>>> cancelled, leaving him stateless. Fortunately for him he got out of
>>> Germany quickly.
>>> 
>> 
>> Richard calls his stupidities “intelligent sophistries”.
> 
> Some call them "alternative facts".
> 
> Dirk Vdm
> 

Which is a strategy for maintaining power and position by distorting
reality. 

But Richard is retired and has no power to protect, no position to
maintain. So it’s a despicable tactic done without an end to try to justify
the means. Employment of despicable tactics just for the fun of it is just
a lapse of character, like throwing rocks at neighborhood cats. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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FromRichard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-17 09:51 -0800
Message-ID<960774f4-828e-45cd-bc08-6bb1cf674142n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#566986
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 1:25:58 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvand...@notmail.com> wrote: 
> > Op 17-nov.-2021 om 12:11 schreef Odd Bodkin: 
> >> Michael Moroney <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote: 
> >>> On 11/16/2021 12:36 AM, Richard Hertz wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> Hitler and his acolytes wouldn't had dare to touch even a hair of 
> >>>> Einstein and his family. It would have been Hitler's movement suicide. 
> >>> 
> >>> That is so wrong, it's absurd. 
> >>> 
> >>> Nazi Germany was obsessed with ridding Germany of "Jüdische Physik" 
> >>> (Jewish Physics) with Einstein right at the top of that shitlist. 
> >>> Only Deutsche Physik/Arische Physik (German/Aryan physics) was 
> >>> acceptable, it was part of the Nazi nationalistic movement. Had they 
> >>> caught Einstein, he would have been first in line for the gas chamber, 
> >>> and made an example of. 
> >>> 
> >>> The Nazis happily sent much of the extended family of WW1 German 
> >>> national hero Fritz Haber to the gas chambers. Haber invented a process 
> >>> to create ammonia in industrial quantities, an ingredient desperately 
> >>> needed by WW1 Germany to manufacture explosives, as well as much of the 
> >>> WW1 chemical warfare gases. Yet Haber was forced to resign his 
> >>> professorship shortly after the Nazis gained power, and died shortly 
> >>> after. His partner, Max Born, had his doctorate and German citizenship 
> >>> cancelled, leaving him stateless. Fortunately for him he got out of 
> >>> Germany quickly. 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Richard calls his stupidities “intelligent sophistries”. 
> > 
> > Some call them "alternative facts". 
> > 
> > Dirk Vdm 
> >
> Which is a strategy for maintaining power and position by distorting 
> reality. 
> 
> But Richard is retired and has no power to protect, no position to 
> maintain. So it’s a despicable tactic done without an end to try to justify 
> the means. Employment of despicable tactics just for the fun of it is just 
> a lapse of character, like throwing rocks at neighborhood cats. 
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables


Sophistry is an art performed by intelligent ancient greeks, who gathered to discuss about whatever.

You, Bodkin, should know this better, with your double major in Philosophy and Mathematics. I can see how hard
you try, but not everybody has the same talent for a given art. In this case, rhetoric as a vector for sophistry.

More than 3,000 years of history back up this elusive art (for the less minded).

The GAME is to find the FALLACY disguised in the elaborated discourse, and prove its existence.

But, as an ancient art, today it has lost its meaning (vulgar people around, a lot).

QUOTES:

Sophistry Has Roots in Greek Philosophy. Sophist (which comes from Greek sophistēs, meaning "wise man" or "expert") 
earned a negative connotation as "a captious or fallacious reasoner." Sophistry is reasoning that seems plausible on a 
superficial level but is actually unsound, or reasoning that is used to deceive.

Sophistry: "specious but fallacious reasoning," mid-14c., from Old French sophistrie (Modern French sophisterie), from Medieval
Latin sophistria, from Latin sophista, sophistes (see sophist). "Sophistry applies to reasoning as sophism to a single argument".

Was Pythagoras a sophist?
490 BC – c. 420 BC) was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher and rhetorical theorist. He is numbered as one of the sophists by Plato.
In his dialogue Protagoras, Plato credits him with inventing the role of the professional sophist.

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