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How many basic forces in nature are there?

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First post2021-11-09 14:53 -0800
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  How many basic forces in nature are there?  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-09 14:53 -0800
    Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 16:55 -0600
      There's only "eXergy". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-09 16:35 -0800
      There's only "eXergy". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-09 16:36 -0800
    Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-09 15:22 -0800
      Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-09 21:36 -0800
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-10 07:19 -0800
          Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 10:18 -0800
            Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 12:59 -0600
            Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-10 14:00 -0800
              Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 15:07 -0800
                Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-10 17:11 -0800
                  Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 21:32 -0800
                    Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 06:45 -0800
                      Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-11 10:19 -0600
                        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 08:57 -0800
                  Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 21:36 -0800
                    Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 06:49 -0800
                      Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-11 10:17 -0800
                        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 10:48 -0800
                        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-12 11:21 -0600
                          Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-12 14:43 -0800
                            Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-12 16:23 -0800
    Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-11-10 08:50 +0100
    Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 10:54 -0800
      Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 13:07 -0600
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 12:17 -0800
      Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-10 14:05 -0800
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-10 15:32 -0800
          Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-10 17:13 -0800
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 13:11 +0000
          Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 05:29 -0800
      Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-11 10:28 -0800
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 10:35 -0800
          Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Gregor Bicha <cas@nbv.ca> - 2021-11-11 18:52 +0000
            Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 10:57 -0800
              Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Gregor Bicha <cas@nbv.ca> - 2021-11-11 19:12 +0000
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 10:50 -0800
        Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-12 15:18 -0800
          Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-12 22:46 -0800
            Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-12 23:02 -0800
              Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-13 07:41 -0800

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#566426 — How many basic forces in nature are there?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-09 14:53 -0800
SubjectHow many basic forces in nature are there?
Message-ID<618AFBEC.2FAA@ix.netcom.com>
How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??

It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?

Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.

My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.




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#566427

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-09 16:55 -0600
Message-ID<smeu97$rb8$1@solani.org>
In reply to#566426
On 11/9/2021 4:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??
> 
> It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
> 
> Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
> 
> My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 


2 I think.

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#566436 — There's only "eXergy".

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-11-09 16:35 -0800
SubjectThere's only "eXergy".
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--4.35pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#566427
Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??

There's only "eXergy"
( energy that can do "work", force * distance ).

From our perspective, clocks tick ever-slower the closer
they are to the start of the Big Bang but, locally, 
they tick normally, as they do here.

Life is a riddle with few answers;
so we make (useful/probable) assumptions e.g.:

  No entropy at the ( infinitely precise ) start of the Big Bang; 
  i.e. infinite "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work", force * distance ); 
  e.g. infinite gravitational and/or electromagnetic energy.

"God" (nature) programmed us to consume residual eXergy as 
the cosmos goes from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse.

SuperDeterminism is the most probable,  and the most useful,  assumption.
Life is everything, yet nothing.

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#566437 — There's only "eXergy".

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-11-09 16:36 -0800
SubjectThere's only "eXergy".
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--4.36pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#566427
Re: How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??

There's only "eXergy"
( energy that can do "work", force * distance ).

From our perspective, clocks tick ever-slower the closer
they are to the start of the Big Bang but, locally, 
they tick normally, as they do here.

Life is a riddle with few answers;
so we make (useful/probable) assumptions e.g.:

  No entropy at the ( infinitely precise ) start of the Big Bang; 
  i.e. infinite "eXergy" ( energy that can do "work", force * distance ); 
  e.g. infinite gravitational and/or electromagnetic energy.

"God" (nature) programmed us to consume residual eXergy as 
the cosmos goes from infinitely  hot/dense to infinitely  cold/sparse.

SuperDeterminism is the most probable,  and the most useful,  assumption.
Life is everything, yet nothing.

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#566429

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-09 15:22 -0800
Message-ID<3fcr5i-fru.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566426
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??

Google "How many basic forces in nature are there"

About 727,000,000 results

Top hit: https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html

> It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
> 
> Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
> 
> My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
 
Your information is usually utter babbling nonsense.

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#566439

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-09 21:36 -0800
Message-ID<618B5A71.524A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566429
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??
> 
> Google "How many basic forces in nature are there"
> 
> About 727,000,000 results

I didn't ask how many times does the question pop up on Google... 


> 
> Top hit: https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html
> 
> > It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
> >
> > Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
> >
> > My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
> 
> Your information is usually utter babbling nonsense.


First you had to 'look it up on Google', meaning you didn't know the
answer

then you didn't answer 1,2,3,4,5...which means you doubbally don't know
the answer..


your response is a complete waste especially i wrote: "don't know, then
never mind."

but you still embarrassed yourself.









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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#566457

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-10 07:19 -0800
Message-ID<6h4t5i-ai12.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566439
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??
>> 
>> Google "How many basic forces in nature are there"
>> 
>> About 727,000,000 results
> 
> I didn't ask how many times does the question pop up on Google... 

Google doesn't index questions, it indexes answers.

Which means there are about 727,000,000 ANSWERS to your question.

>> 
>> Top hit: https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html
>> 
>> > It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
>> >
>> > Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
>> >
>> > My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
>> 
>> Your information is usually utter babbling nonsense.
> 
> 
> First you had to 'look it up on Google', meaning you didn't know the
> answer

The google look up was an object lesson for YOU to show YOU how trivial
it is to find the answer to YOUR question.

> then you didn't answer 1,2,3,4,5...which means you doubbally don't know
> the answer..
> 
> 
> your response is a complete waste especially i wrote: "don't know, then
> never mind."
> 
> but you still embarrassed yourself.

It is you that has embarrassed yourself by not even knowing what it
is that google does.

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#566468

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-10 10:18 -0800
Message-ID<618C0CDB.25B6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566457
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>
> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??
> >>
> >> Google "How many basic forces in nature are there"
> >>
> >> About 727,000,000 results
> >
> > I didn't ask how many times does the question pop up on Google...
> 
> Google doesn't index questions, it indexes answers.
> 
> Which means there are about 727,000,000 ANSWERS to your question.
> 
> >>
> >> Top hit: https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html
> >>
> >> > It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
> >> >
> >> > Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
> >> >
> >> > My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
> >>
> >> Your information is usually utter babbling nonsense.
> >
> >
> > First you had to 'look it up on Google', meaning you didn't know the
> > answer
> 
> The google look up was an object lesson for YOU to show YOU how trivial
> it is to find the answer to YOUR question.
> 
> > then you didn't answer 1,2,3,4,5...which means you doubbally don't know
> > the answer..
> >
> >
> > your response is a complete waste especially i wrote: "don't know, then
> > never mind."
> >
> > but you still embarrassed yourself.
> 
> It is you that has embarrassed yourself by not even knowing what it
> is that google does.



MY GOSH, you're useless!

Google admits they don't have the answers. Google admits they don't know the truth.

If you do a simple search for Why Is The Sky Blue?

First Google will try to figure out what is your question you are asking before you even finish asking the question!

Then they have their own:

People also ask  :

question

question

question

question



and the answers that pop up can be relevant, irrelevant, accurate, in accurate, true or untrue...

it doesn't matter to Google.


They still make money with MISINFORMATION!



But, the truth is...You don't know how many basic forces in nature are there.



and still we haven't got a number from you. Why?  You doubbally doubbally don't know. 


In other words, 727,000,000 answers on Google is...wrong!


But what does Google care?


You're just a ...lemming.


(but i love the game)




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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#566477

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-10 12:59 -0600
Message-ID<smh4pt$340$1@solani.org>
In reply to#566468
On 11/10/2021 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> MY GOSH, you're useless!


"Jim Pennino" can indeed be replaced with a nauseating clump of infected 
_pustulence_ , and absolutely _nothing_ in this world will suffer the 
slightest change from what it was before.

This shit is some _nonentity_.

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#566494

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-10 14:00 -0800
Message-ID<d0st5i-lji2.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566468
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > Jim Pennino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> > How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??
>> >>
>> >> Google "How many basic forces in nature are there"
>> >>
>> >> About 727,000,000 results
>> >
>> > I didn't ask how many times does the question pop up on Google...
>> 
>> Google doesn't index questions, it indexes answers.
>> 
>> Which means there are about 727,000,000 ANSWERS to your question.
>> 
>> >>
>> >> Top hit: https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html
>> >>
>> >> > It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
>> >> >
>> >> > Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
>> >> >
>> >> > My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
>> >>
>> >> Your information is usually utter babbling nonsense.
>> >
>> >
>> > First you had to 'look it up on Google', meaning you didn't know the
>> > answer
>> 
>> The google look up was an object lesson for YOU to show YOU how trivial
>> it is to find the answer to YOUR question.
>> 
>> > then you didn't answer 1,2,3,4,5...which means you doubbally don't know
>> > the answer..
>> >
>> >
>> > your response is a complete waste especially i wrote: "don't know, then
>> > never mind."
>> >
>> > but you still embarrassed yourself.
>> 
>> It is you that has embarrassed yourself by not even knowing what it
>> is that google does.
> 
> 
> 
> MY GOSH, you're useless!
> 
> Google admits they don't have the answers. Google admits they don't know the truth.

No shit?

This is news to you?

Google is nothing more than an indexing service of information it finds
on web sites.

It is up to the end user to decide if the information found is correct
or even relevant to the question.

> If you do a simple search for Why Is The Sky Blue?

Google Why Is The Sky Blue

First response: a web page from the Royal Museums Greenwich which goes
into great detail about why the Earth's sky is blue.

<snip ignorant moron babble>

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#566501

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-10 15:07 -0800
Message-ID<618C50B7.554F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566494
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>
> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> > How many basic forces in nature are there? 3 or 4??
> >> >>
> >> >> Google "How many basic forces in nature are there"
> >> >>
> >> >> About 727,000,000 results
> >> >
> >> > I didn't ask how many times does the question pop up on Google...
> >>
> >> Google doesn't index questions, it indexes answers.
> >>
> >> Which means there are about 727,000,000 ANSWERS to your question.
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Top hit: https://www.space.com/four-fundamental-forces.html
> >> >>
> >> >> > It has to be one or the other, but which one, 3 or 4?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Unless of course you people don't know, then nevermind.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My information sez there are only 3..and 4 is wrong.
> >> >>
> >> >> Your information is usually utter babbling nonsense.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > First you had to 'look it up on Google', meaning you didn't know the
> >> > answer
> >>
> >> The google look up was an object lesson for YOU to show YOU how trivial
> >> it is to find the answer to YOUR question.
> >>
> >> > then you didn't answer 1,2,3,4,5...which means you doubbally don't know
> >> > the answer..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > your response is a complete waste especially i wrote: "don't know, then
> >> > never mind."
> >> >
> >> > but you still embarrassed yourself.
> >>
> >> It is you that has embarrassed yourself by not even knowing what it
> >> is that google does.
> >
> >
> >
> > MY GOSH, you're useless!
> >
> > Google admits they don't have the answers. Google admits they don't know the truth.
> 
> No shit?
> 
> This is news to you?
> 
> Google is nothing more than an indexing service of information it finds
> on web sites.
> 
> It is up to the end user to decide if the information found is correct
> or even relevant to the question.
> 
> > If you do a simple search for Why Is The Sky Blue?
> 
> Google Why Is The Sky Blue
> 
> First response: a web page from the Royal Museums Greenwich which goes
> into great detail about why the Earth's sky is blue.
> 
> <snip ignorant moron babble>

Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for

Where is the nearest Martian?

Google might have a little trouble...

if you looking for the nearest Venusian from planet Venus..

Where is the nearest Venusian?

Google might have a little trouble...


I get Venus Massage Parlor.








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#566510

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-10 17:11 -0800
Message-ID<767u5i-qe03.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566501
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

<snip old crap>

> Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
> 
> Where is the nearest Martian?
> 
> Google might have a little trouble...

Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.

Likewise for other idiotic phrases like "five headed dog" or
"intelligent usenet posts by starmaker".

<snip remaining idiotic drivel?


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#566514

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-10 21:32 -0800
Message-ID<618CAAE3.27A0@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566510
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip old crap>
> 
> > Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
> >
> > Where is the nearest Martian?
> >
> > Google might have a little trouble...
> 
> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
> 
> Likewise for other idiotic phrases like "five headed dog" or
> "intelligent usenet posts by starmaker".
> 
> <snip remaining idiotic drivel?


Are you saying there are no Martians?


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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 the unchallengeable.

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#566530

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-11 06:45 -0800
Message-ID<4umv5i-srt3.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566514
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip old crap>
>> 
>> > Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
>> >
>> > Where is the nearest Martian?
>> >
>> > Google might have a little trouble...
>> 
>> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
>> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
>> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
>> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
>> 
>> Likewise for other idiotic phrases like "five headed dog" or
>> "intelligent usenet posts by starmaker".
>> 
>> <snip remaining idiotic drivel?
> 
> 
> Are you saying there are no Martians?
 
What I said was "it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a
web page about the nearest Martian", so there would be nothing for
google to index.

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#566537

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2021-11-11 10:19 -0600
Message-ID<iv4u46Fit9pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#566530
On 11/11/2021 8:45 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>
>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip old crap>
>>>
>>>> Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
>>>>
>>>> Where is the nearest Martian?
>>>>
>>>> Google might have a little trouble...
>>>
>>> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
>>> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
>>> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
>>> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
>>>
>>> Likewise for other idiotic phrases like "five headed dog" or
>>> "intelligent usenet posts by starmaker".
>>>
>>> <snip remaining idiotic drivel?
>>
>>
>> Are you saying there are no Martians?
>   
> What I said was "it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a
> web page about the nearest Martian", so there would be nothing for
> google to index.
> 

google "nearest martian"  313,000,000 hits

Bear in mind that google prefers to yield information even when the
information merely superficially resembles the query.

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#566541

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-11 08:57 -0800
Message-ID<eluv5i-n654.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566537
In sci.physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
> On 11/11/2021 8:45 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip old crap>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is the nearest Martian?
>>>>>
>>>>> Google might have a little trouble...
>>>>
>>>> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
>>>> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
>>>> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
>>>> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
>>>>
>>>> Likewise for other idiotic phrases like "five headed dog" or
>>>> "intelligent usenet posts by starmaker".
>>>>
>>>> <snip remaining idiotic drivel?
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you saying there are no Martians?
>>   
>> What I said was "it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a
>> web page about the nearest Martian", so there would be nothing for
>> google to index.
>> 
> 
> google "nearest martian"  313,000,000 hits
> 
> Bear in mind that google prefers to yield information even when the
> information merely superficially resembles the query.

Yes, and a quick look shows that the vast majority of the links returned
are about the relative orbital positions of Earth and Mars with a few
links about businesses with Martian in their name.

This validates my earlier statements, i.e.:

1. The end user needs to validate that the links returned are actually
relevant to the question as written.

2. Nobody has a web site talking about Martians.

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#566515

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-10 21:36 -0800
Message-ID<618CABEB.2637@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566510
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip old crap>
> 
> > Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
> >
> > Where is the nearest Martian?
> >
> > Google might have a little trouble...
> 
> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.

Don't forget the 727,000,000, that includes you and many others here...


Hundreds of thousands upon hundreds of thousands.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#566529

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-11 06:49 -0800
Message-ID<95nv5i-srt3.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566515
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip old crap>
>> 
>> > Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
>> >
>> > Where is the nearest Martian?
>> >
>> > Google might have a little trouble...
>> 
>> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
>> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
>> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
>> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
> 
> Don't forget the 727,000,000, that includes you and many others here...

That would be 727,000,000 web pages about the sky being blue, which has
nothing to do with me or anyone else here.

> Hundreds of thousands upon hundreds of thousands.

That would be thousands of subject matter experts that disagree with what
you said your one source said.

You seem to have major cognitive issues.

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#566549

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-11-11 10:17 -0800
Message-ID<618D5E1F.78EF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#566529
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>
> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip old crap>
> >>
> >> > Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
> >> >
> >> > Where is the nearest Martian?
> >> >
> >> > Google might have a little trouble...
> >>
> >> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
> >> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
> >> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
> >> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
> >
> > Don't forget the 727,000,000, that includes you and many others here...
> 
> That would be 727,000,000 web pages about the sky being blue, which has
> nothing to do with me or anyone else here.


727,000,000? You 'also' seem to have a memory problem...are you one of
those people with one foot in the grave?  



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#566557

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2021-11-11 10:48 -0800
Message-ID<h4506i-j7b4.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#566549
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > Jim Pennino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <snip old crap>
>> >>
>> >> > Lets for example you are looking for the nearest Martian. Do a Google search for
>> >> >
>> >> > Where is the nearest Martian?
>> >> >
>> >> > Google might have a little trouble...
>> >>
>> >> Since google is nothing more than an index of phrases found in web pages
>> >> and it is highly unlikely that anyone on the planet has a web page about
>> >> the nearest Martian, anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence or
>> >> common sense would not expect much of anything for such a search.
>> >
>> > Don't forget the 727,000,000, that includes you and many others here...
>> 
>> That would be 727,000,000 web pages about the sky being blue, which has
>> nothing to do with me or anyone else here.
> 
> 
> 727,000,000? You 'also' seem to have a memory problem...are you one of
> those people with one foot in the grave?  
 
Since you keep dancing around from subject to subject, it becomes
difficult to keep such things in order.

So, that would be 727,000,000 web pages about the forces of nature,
which has nothing to do with me or anyone else here.


 

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