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Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton?
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everything isalllies <itsalllieseverything@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 5:23:28 AM UTC+11, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> Question: "If a light beam is sent tangent across earth would it curve
>> at 9.8 m/s^
>> ?" https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/627464/if-a-light-beam-is-sent-tangent-across-earth-would-it-curve-at-9-8-rm-m-s2/627496
>> 
>> 
>> My answer: "Yes the light beam would curve at 9.8 m/s^2, as per Newton's theory": 
>> 
>> "To see why a deflection of light would be expected, consider Figure
>> 2-17, which shows a beam of light entering an accelerating compartment.
>> Successive positions of the compartment are shown at equal time
>> intervals. Because the compartment is accelerating, the distance it
>> moves in each time interval increases with time. The path of the beam of
>> light, as observed from inside the compartment, is therefore a parabola.
>> But according to the equivalence principle, there is no way to
>> distinguish between an accelerating compartment and one with uniform
>> velocity in a uniform gravitational field. We conclude, therefore, that
>> A BEAM OF LIGHT WILL ACCELERATE IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD AS DO OBJECTS
>> WITH REST MASS. For example, near the surface of Earth light will fall
>> with acceleration 9.8 m/s^2." http://web.pdx.edu/~pmoeck/books/Tipler_Llewellyn.pdf 
>> 
>> An Einsteinian’s answer: "Yes it will curve, but not at 9.8 m/s^2 as
>> predicted by Newton's theory. Its curvature will be twice that value as
>> predicted by General Relativity." 
>> 
>> Who is right? 
>> 
>> More here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev 
>> 
>> Pentcho Valev
> 
>   Pentcho, why would you even think that Light could ever be influenced by Gravity?
> Is that what you believe?
> 

Sir, you may find it shocking that Newtonian mechanics does predict the
deflection of light by gravity. This was first calculated in fact, in 1804,
a full century before special relativity emerged.

Now, if this does not make sense to you because you believe that Newtonian
gravity only affects massive objects, then clearly you do not understand
Newtonian mechanics and Newtonian gravity. 

What now for you?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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  Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-02-12 10:47 +0100
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      Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-02-12 04:58 -0800
        Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-02-12 10:47 -0800
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              Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Darrel Angus <argus@iiehdc.mx> - 2022-02-12 19:42 +0000
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                Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-02-13 14:18 +0000
                Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-02-13 06:27 -0800
                Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-02-13 14:28 +0000
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                Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-02-13 19:20 +0000
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  Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2022-02-12 10:23 -0800
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      Re: Gravitational Deflection of Light: as per Einstein or as per Newton? Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2022-02-12 15:39 -0800
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