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Re: Rest frame of a photon

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Rest frame of a photon
Date	2025-12-17 09:01 +0100
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Am Mittwoch000017, 17.12.2025 um 07:26 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
> On 12/16/2025 07:57 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2025 11:24 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> [full quote of something about _photons_]
>>>
>>> [pseudo-scientific rambling about electrons]
>>
>> Hopeless case.
>>
> 
> It's not hopeless - instead it's a great opportunity,
> since great theorists since Faraday and for FitzGerald
> then about Heaviside and at least three different ways
> of looking at things that got combined in Maxwell's
> equations E x B or D x H, which are also at least two
> ways of looking at things, then for Faraday and Helmholtz
> about that electrical fields the movements within them
> are as spirals while they are as waves, then after
> Young and Millikan and e/m the charge/mass ratio,
> there's Richardson with the electron theory of matter,
> establishing at least three constants 'c', all that is
> 100-200 years old, thus at least over-ripe for revisiting.
> 
> 
> 
> These days all these particles also have their "-inos",
> to get helping to explain for Aspect/Bell type experiments
> which has essentially superluminal flux, or at least
> reverse flux, that such researches have earned Nobel
> prizes even in the last 20-30 years.
> 
> 

My idea about the electron:

'electron' is only an aspect of a standing wave.

That aspect denotes the outer edge of a standing rotation wave, while 
the inner turnig point is commonly called 'proton'.

So, electrons are not seperate entities but kind of parts of a united 
structure.

The minus of the electron's charge denotes 'invards', while the plus of 
the proton 'outwards'.

The most simple atom is hydrogen and that is just one single standing 
wave, where the outer edge is called 'electron' and the inner turning 
point 'proton'.

The wave itself is actually a little tricky and called 'standing 
rotation wave' for some reasons, which I have described in my 'book', 
that can be found here:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

The idea is called 'structured spacetime' and 'timelike stable patterns' 
are, what we call 'matter'.

But 'not timelike stable' is also possible for material object. In that 
case we call them 'radiation'.

IOW: a stationary electron is part of an atom, while a non stationary 
electron is what we call 'photon'.

TH

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Re: Rest frame of a photon Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 09:14 -0600
  Re: Rest frame of a photon JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 21:45 -0500
    Re: Rest frame of a photon Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 09:54 -0600
      Re: Rest frame of a photon JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 11:53 -0500
      Re: Rest frame of a photon Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-16 20:24 +0100
        Re: Rest frame of a photon Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 14:56 -0800
          Re: Rest frame of a photon Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-17 04:57 +0100
            Re: Rest frame of a photon Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 22:26 -0800
              Re: Rest frame of a photon Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 22:31 -0800
              Re: Rest frame of a photon Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-17 09:01 +0100
                Re: Rest frame of a photon Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 08:03 -0800
        Re: Rest frame of a photon Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 17:30 -0600
          Re: Rest frame of a photon Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-17 05:26 +0100
            Re: Rest frame of a photon jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-12-18 14:16 +0000
              Re: Rest frame of a photon Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-20 06:10 +0100
                Re: Rest frame of a photon jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-12-20 14:11 +0000
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                Re: Studying Physics jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2025-12-21 16:35 +0000
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                Re: Everything You Wanted To Know About Cross-Posting But Were Afraid To Ask Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-23 00:11 -0800
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                Re: Rest frame of a photon Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-20 19:56 -0600
                Re: Rest frame of a photon Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-20 19:58 -0600
                Re: Rest frame of a photon Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-20 18:51 -0800
                Re: Rest frame of a photon Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-21 15:45 +0100
                Re: Rest frame of a photon Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-21 16:11 +0100
                Re: Rest frame of a photon The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-21 09:56 -0800
                Re: Rest frame of a photon Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-21 11:48 -0800

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