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Re: Call to Repeal the Physical Theories of the 20th Century

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Call to Repeal the Physical Theories of the 20th Century
Date 2025-05-22 09:41 +0200
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Am Mittwoch000021, 21.05.2025 um 14:45 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Wed, 21 May 2025 4:48:02 +0000, x wrote:
> 
>> On 5/20/25 16:19, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 6:15:59 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 13:54 schrieb rhertz:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:42:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "We often hear the argument that the justness of application of
>>>>>> quantum mechanics lies in the great accuracy of its math 
>>>>>> calculations.
>>>>>> But in fact, the quantum mechanics so as was the Ptolemay epicycles
>>>>>> is a procedure for finding of mathematical construction to the 
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>> experimental data which this mathematics has to arrive at. We can
>>>>>> always find the mathematical relationships that describe experimental
>>>>>> data or, if not, we can construct a new mathematics to describe the
>>>>>> experimental data. But finding such mathematical constructions
>>>>>> (theories) do not confirm the veracity of the basic physical 
>>>>>> principles
>>>>>> (models) upon which these construction are based."
>>>>>
>>>>> Like SR and Lorentz applied to particle accelerators. It's A FACT that
>>>>> SR has been "validated" in linear and circular CHARGED particle
>>>>> accelerators, but ONLY to speeds lower than 0.3 c. From this limit 
>>>>> up to
>>>>> near c, the calculations are made BASED ON THE DETECTED ENERGY OF
>>>>> CHARGED PARTICLES.
>>>>>
>>>>> Physics DENY the fact that are dealing with CHARGED PARTICLES, and 
>>>>> that
>>>>> the energy transfer between accelerators and particles could be 
>>>>> limited
>>>>> JUST by the speed at which the EM electric fields can accelerate
>>>>> particles. It's highly possible that such action IS NOT RELATED TO SR,
>>>>> but to limits at which accelerating energy can be transferred to
>>>>> particles, in a way that formulae ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE FROM SR.
>>>>>
>>>>> To mention the above possibility is considered heretic in the physics
>>>>> community, which is married to relativity like devote socialists or
>>>>> communists are married to the concepts of POPULISM. Every thing 
>>>>> else is
>>>>> just FAR RIGHT. That's the way the world has been functioning for the
>>>>> last 140 years (politics and economy).
>>>>
>>>> I have the same impression because tons of people called me 'Nazi'
>>>> because I dared to question certain assumptions.
>>>
>>> What has Nazism to do with physics? Nazism is about nationalism and
>>> socialism.
>>
>> I guess that is Godwin's Law.  Everybody on usenet is Hitler.
> 
> Given populations in Usenet and other media, looks like that is okay.
> For one usenetter ten million media fed sheep.
>>
>> If both Hitler and Jesus were raised from the dead then everybody
>> would call Jesus Hitler,
> 
> No, Jesus would be called crazy. Hitler never recommended turning the
> other cheek.

'Jesus' was actually the Roman name for a mythical person, which the 
Greek called 'IESOS'.

As far as this is known, that person had really lived, but not under the 
name 'Iesos' or 'Jesus'.

That person had no known name, but a title in Aramaic, which was 'mahmed'.

In the semitic languages they leave out the vocals and wrote 'MHMD' in 
Aramaic letters, (which I cannot write).

The Umayyadic califs inserted a few extra vocals and made 'Mohammed' out 
of 'MHMD'. They also added a few years (and also Arabic mysticism) and 
changed the location.

The Romans took that same person and fused 'Zaroastrism' (in Roman terms 
'Mithraism') into the story and added the cross and the miracles of 
Mithras (and changed also place and time).

That's why Islam and Christianity deal with the exact same person, which 
was actually a Jew, who belonged to the sect called 'Essenes' and who 
lived in Qumran.


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TH

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