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Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang.
Date 2025-03-15 09:21 +0100
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Am Montag000024, 24.02.2025 um 12:59 schrieb guido wugi:

>>>>> The velocity-distance relation fails to explain the redshift distance
>>>>> relation because the latter is exactly the same in every direction so
>>>>> the former would place us at exactly the center of the universe.
>>>>
>>>> Do you still not understand that we are in the exact centre of
>>>> the observable universe?
>>>
>>> He doesn't understand yet the relatitivity of the centre of the 
>>> universe ;)
>>> (even at big bang an infinite universe is still a possibility)
>>>
>>
>> The universe has the topology of a large 'ball':

That was actually wrong, because I somehow missed to write a 'not'.
> 
> A "sphere", I suppose, the "shell" of a "ball".


No, because a sphere is two dimensional, what the universe obviously isn't.

The topology is of higher dimensions and contains a 'cut', which 
generates the local impression of what we call 'universe'. That local 
'universe' is actually not real and not universal, because what we call 
'universe' is actually our own past light cone.

So, we receive a picture from the past, which combines to something 
visible, that does not reflect any kind of reality.

It is actually a picture, that is 'stacked in time' and behaves like the 
'crystal spheres' of Ptolemaios.


...


TH

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The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-21 19:39 +0000
  Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 13:35 -0800
    Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-21 21:54 +0000
      Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-22 19:18 +0000
        Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-23 14:46 +0100
          Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-23 21:00 +0000
          Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-02-24 00:00 +0100
            Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-24 08:31 +0100
              Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-02-24 12:59 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-24 13:09 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-15 09:21 +0100
              Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 14:53 -0800
            Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-25 14:27 +0100
              Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 20:26 -0800
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                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 21:05 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-28 08:09 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 09:44 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 10:07 -0800
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                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 14:52 -0800
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                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 08:42 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 18:21 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 09:41 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 23:08 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 14:32 -0800
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                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 23:27 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 17:38 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-04 08:03 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 03:16 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-04 13:14 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. (realism) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:21 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-03-02 19:46 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 12:16 -0800
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-03-02 13:12 +0100
                Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 14:33 +0100
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          Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-24 00:15 +0000
            Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. guido wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> - 2025-02-24 16:48 +0100
      Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-23 14:41 +0100
        Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 16:45 -0800
    Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-21 23:28 +0000
      Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 12:29 -0800
        Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-22 21:39 +0000
      Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-23 14:49 +0100
        Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-23 20:59 +0000
          Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-24 11:32 +0100
            Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-24 11:37 +0100
    Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-22 09:58 +0100
      Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 12:28 -0800
        Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-02-23 09:18 +0100
          Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:24 -0800
  Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-23 20:07 +0100
    Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-02-23 19:58 +0000
      Re: The CMBR Disproves the Big Bang. "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-02-24 15:17 +0100
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