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Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.
Date 2024-09-05 08:57 +0200
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Am Mittwoch000004, 04.09.2024 um 23:10 schrieb Python:
> Le 04/09/2024 à 23:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 04.09.2024 o 21:30, Python pisze:
>>> Le 04/09/2024 à 20:21, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> W dniu 04.09.2024 o 19:48, gharnagel pisze:
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:09:57 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Common sense was warning your idiot guru.
>>>>>
>>>>> St. John the Divine was warning Warped Wozniak, the
>>>>> bald-faced liar:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> St John (fuck his absurd threats anyway) won't
>>>> help,  t'=t in GPS,  at least if by t, t' we
>>>> mean clock  indications.
>>>
>>> How such t and t' are clock indications.
>>
>> According to the own definition of
>> your [Einstein] - time is "what clocks
>> indicate",
> 
> Don't be lazy, Wozniak, read! "time is "what clocks indicate" is

This is wrong!

Time does not depend on clocks, because clocks are manmade artifacts.

Essentially the concept of time depends on a process of counting 
something, which is assumed to happen always at the same rate.

In earlier times this was the rotation of the Earth around its own axis 
and aroud the sun.

But these events do not happen at the same frequency forever, because 
the days get slightly longer and the years get more days.

Therefore, other means are used today, which are assumed to be 
universally stable.


Somehow we know, at least assume, that such frequencies are not stable 
neither, but we get stuck, if we question also these frequencies.

So, essentially some sort of 'atomic clock' ist constructed and used, 
which defines, how long a second is and what time we have right now.

But still nature doesn't care.


TH
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Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-04 10:01 +0200
  Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-04 14:04 +0200
    Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-04 15:09 +0200
      Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-04 17:48 +0000
        Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-04 20:21 +0200
          Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-04 21:30 +0200
            Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-04 23:03 +0200
              Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-04 23:10 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-05 06:41 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-05 08:57 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-05 10:26 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-06 12:16 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-06 12:22 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-07 09:26 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-07 09:49 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-13 09:37 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-13 10:12 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-13 10:38 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-14 08:37 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-14 09:18 +0200
          Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-05 01:58 +0000
            Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-05 04:14 +0200
            Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-05 06:47 +0200
              Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-05 12:10 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-05 14:30 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-06 13:24 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-06 15:38 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-07 12:22 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-07 14:58 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-07 22:17 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-08 07:28 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-09 13:56 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-09 19:24 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-10 03:34 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 07:24 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-10 14:32 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 16:59 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 17:02 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 17:33 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 17:55 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 18:33 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 18:40 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 18:52 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 23:27 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-11 07:05 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-10 16:55 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 19:24 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 21:34 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 22:15 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 22:30 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-10 22:41 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-10 22:08 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-11 00:12 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-09-10 23:25 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-11 07:03 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-11 16:00 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-11 18:19 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-12 13:20 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-12 16:27 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-13 11:50 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-13 14:16 +0200
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-14 12:50 +0000
                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-14 20:25 +0200
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                Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS. hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-14 23:55 +0000
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