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Re: Relativistic aberration

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Relativistic aberration
Date	2024-08-08 09:05 +0200
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Am Mittwoch000007, 07.08.2024 um 15:52 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
> W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:19, Python pisze:
>> Le 07/08/2024 à 15:16, M.D. Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
>>> [...]
>>> According to Hachel, and always in accordance with logic, with truth, 
>>> and with the equations of Poincaré, who was not weak in mathematics, 
>>> the notion of simultaneity is invariant by change of observer JOINT 
>>> at the moment of measurement, what varies for them is the INTERNAL 
>>> CHRONOTROPY, and not the notion of simultaneity.
>>
>> There is nothing in common between your demented ill-defined
> 
> 
> And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
> to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
> would be, and he has written it clearly
> enough for anyone able to read (even if not
> clearly enough for you, poor stinker).
> 
> 
Actually Poincare did and assumed a four dimensional 'curved' spacetime, 
from which Euclid's three-dimensional space is a 'sub-chapter'.

This euclidean space is kind of projection into the realm of the local 
observer, who 'cuts' spacetime into time and space, simply by being 
somewhere.

This is a very different concept than the usual mainstream 
interpretation and actually different to the interpretation of Einstein 
in his 1905 paper, too.

Poincare's idea was further developed by Hermann Minkowski.

So Poincare's relativity is different to Einstein's, which was mainly 
based on Hendrik Lorentz and his 'Lorentz transform'.

But Poincare regarded this concept of Lorentz as wrong (even if he 
invented the name 'Lorentz transform').


TH

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  Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-07 13:16 +0000
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      Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-07 13:37 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic aberration Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-07 16:21 +0200
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        Re: Relativistic aberration Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-08-08 09:05 +0200
          Re: Relativistic aberration Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-08-08 13:17 +0200
            Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-08 14:33 +0000
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            Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-08 14:52 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic aberration Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-08 17:23 +0200
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                Re: Relativistic aberration Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-08 17:54 +0200
                Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-08 16:25 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic aberration Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-09 12:06 +0200
                Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-09 12:41 +0000
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                Re: Relativistic aberration Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-10 05:45 +0200
                Re: Relativistic aberration hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-08-10 13:24 +0000
                Re: Relativistic aberration Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-08-10 17:35 +0200
                Re: Relativistic aberration  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> - 2024-08-09 17:16 +0000
                Re: Relativistic aberration nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-08-09 20:44 +0200
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                Re: Relativistic aberration Blaine Kántor <kndisk@ibgkk.hu> - 2024-08-10 10:40 +0000

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