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Re: Approximately 300,000 km/s With Respect To What?

From Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Approximately 300,000 km/s With Respect To What?
Date 2024-07-25 10:28 +0200
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On 2024-07-25 06:58:22 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

> Am Mittwoch000024, 24.07.2024 um 11:39 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Am Dienstag000023, 23.07.2024 um 09:33 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
>>>> Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2024-07-22 05:33:26 +0000, Thomas Heger said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am Sonntag000021, 21.07.2024 um 13:36 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
>>>>>>> W dniu 21.07.2024 o 12:40, Python pisze:
>>>>>>>> Le 21/07/2024 à 09:03, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Am Samstag000020, 20.07.2024 um 16:08 schrieb Python:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> The number of errors in einstein's paper is also extremely large,
>>>>>>>>>>> hence that 'system' would need permanent control over large parts
>>>>>>>>>>> of science.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Also a mechanism for sanctions against dissidents would be
>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But for what reasons would any system take such an amount of
>>>>>>>>>>> efforts???
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly something not very beneficial, because otherwise we
>>>>>>>>>>> would be told about it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Even as fond you are to pathetically stupid "theories" (growing
>>>>>>>>>> Earth, Hitler is a British spy, etc.) you seem to realize,
>>>>>>>>>> somewhat, how stupid your claims are?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There is a far simpler way to explain everything
>>>>>>>>>> - There are no significant mistakes in Einstein's article
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is actually a counterfactual 'sanction'!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You didn't even mention my 'annotated version of SRT' and the 400+
>>>>>>>>> errors I have found in Einstein's paper.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here it is:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RkhX-B5u7X4ga0QH-C53RddjQGctZVdo/view
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you think, that I made 400+ errors myself, than please show at least
>>>>>>>>> a single one.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Come on, Thomas. A lot of yours claims there has been extensively
>>>>>>>> debunked here, by me and others.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
>>>>>>> to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
>>>>>>> would be, and he has written it clearly
>>>>>>> enough for anyone able to read (even if not
>>>>>>> clearly enough for you, poor stinker).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Poincare was a mathematician and a very good one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He wandered into physics, because he was dealing with the Lorentz
>>>>>> transformation and with Maxwells equations.
>>>> 
>>>> So you got that wrong too. (can't you ever get anything right?)
>>>> Poincaré, like Einstein, was an engineer by training.
>>> 
>>> Einstein was actually teacher from training.
>> 
>> More nonsense.
>> Einstein graduated from the ETH Zurich as an engineer, period,
>> just like any other engineer.
>> They didn't have 'teaching only' degrees. [1]
> 
> I have read,

Where? Citation please.

>  that Einstein got a degree as teacher for physics.
> 
> But, as a matter of fact, I cannot proof this

Of course not. Most of your fantasies cannot be proved.

>  and it is also of little interest for me.

Why say it then?
> 
>> What is true is that Einstein prefered the general physics courses,
>> and that he avoided specialised subjects as much as possible.
>> He was, and wanted to be a generalist.
>> It seems plausible that he got his job at the patent office
>> precisely because of that.
> 
> I have regarded it as questionable, that stateless foreigners could 
> work in an 'Amt', where usually only born citizens could work (because 
> the Patentamt was security critical).
> 
> My conclusion from this was, that Einstein WAS in fact born in 
> Swizzerland and his CV therefore a fake.

Fantasy again.
> 
> Why Swizzerland did that and why they tried to derail common science, 
> that is a riddle for me.
> 
> Possibly the Swiss had developed something useful, like a time machine 
> or device to synthesize Gold, which they wanted to have exclusively.
> 
> 
>>> That Poincaré was an engineer was new for me.
>> 
>> This is typical of you. You proclaim all kinds of things
>> without bothering for a moment to look at readily available sources
>> for even a little amount of fact check,
> 
> Well, you always have some gaps in what you know.
> 
> About Poincaré and his personal life I have actually very few informations.
> 
> But what exactly are you trying to prove with this´?
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> TH


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.

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