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Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails.

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The failure of the unified field theory means general relativity fails.
Date 2024-06-25 08:49 +0200
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Am Dienstag000025, 25.06.2024 um 05:57 schrieb Tom Roberts:

>>> Nope. YOU have imposed specific units onto the formula/equation. The
>>> equation itself does not impose any particular units on its variables
>>> and constants [@], it merely requires that they be self-consistent.
>>>
>>>    [@] There are many systems of units in common use. You
>>>    seem to think there is only one.
>>
>> A forteriori, any result that depends on any particular choice
>> of units (or dimensions) is unphysical.
> 
> Yes, of course. Good point. Similarly, any result that depends on choice 
> of coordinates is unphysical.
> 

Not quite...

Because velocity is 'relative' (relative in respect to what you regard 
as 'stationary'), kinetic energy is frame dependent.

Since the used coordinate system defines 'stationary', you need a 
coordinate system for kinetic energy and that for practically everything 
else.

TH

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