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Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed

From	Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed
Date	2023-01-31 20:06 +0100
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On 2023-01-31 16:55:52 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:

> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 14:04:34 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 4:47:47 PM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> Dono. <eggy20...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> all Pound had to do is to cancel the gravitational shift
>>>>> with the relativistic Doppler shift so he gets the Mossbauer resonance
>>>>> peaks.
>>>> Well, for not too small values of 'all'.
>>>> It is a subtle experiment to design and do right.
>>> 
>>> True, and I stand corrected. I've been stressing how "simple" the
>>> math is, but it's only "simple" in retrospect. T. E. Cranshaw, whom
>>> I observe from his history was a productive and highly experienced
>>> experimental physicist, attempted the same experiment but failed
>>> to obtain meaningful results because he failed to take into account
>>> (1) the temperature difference between the source and absorber,
>>> and (2) the frequency difference inherent in a given combination of
>>> source and absorber.
>>> 
>>> The Mossbauer technique was only two years old at the time that
>>> Pound and Rebka performed their study, and all of the pitfalls of
>>> using the technique had not been worked out yet.
>> Experimental physics at the edge of what is possible
>> is a difficult art. The path from direct observation
>> to meaningful conclusion is rarely straightforward.
>> It involves interpretation, and finding meaning in direct observations.
> 
> And in the meantime in the real world, forbidden
> by your bunch of idiots GPS and TAI keep measuring
> t'=t in forbidden by your bunch of idiots old
> seconds.

600 !! Congratulations. After your idleness inthe middle of January I 
wasn't sure you would make it to 600.


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.

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Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 07:10 -0800
  Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 07:36 -0800
    Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-01-27 09:37 -0800
      Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 10:33 -0800
        Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 10:50 -0800
    Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 13:36 -0800
      Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 14:05 -0800
        Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 16:07 -0800
          Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 16:43 -0800
            Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 17:12 -0800
    Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 08:01 -0800
      Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 13:36 -0800
        Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 14:41 -0800
          Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 15:13 -0800
          Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-01-28 15:15 -0800
          Re: Why Richard Hertz is an imbecile Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 16:57 -0800
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  Re: Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-27 14:23 -0500
    Re: Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Baldomero De filippis <ppbo@ibsldimp.sn> - 2023-01-28 16:40 +0000
  Re: Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 07:32 -0800
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      Re: Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 09:34 -0800
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            Re: Lying piece of shit Richard Hertz exposed "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2023-01-30 14:39 +0100
              Re: Lying piece of shit Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 06:19 -0800
              Re: Lying piece of shit Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 07:30 -0800
          Re: Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 14:54 -0800
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    Re: Why 1960 Pound-Rebka experiment is an HOAX. Part I. Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 17:02 -0800
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      Crank Richard Hertz exposed "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 19:33 -0800
        Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-01-29 23:58 -0800
          Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-30 11:09 +0100
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-01-30 10:28 -0800
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 11:21 -0800
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 14:46 -0800
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-30 23:47 +0100
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 08:42 +0100
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-31 13:02 -0500
        Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 03:26 -0800
          Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 06:18 -0800
            Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 06:34 -0800
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 08:31 -0800
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                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 10:30 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-30 21:48 -0500
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 22:41 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 12:47 -0800
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            Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-30 23:47 +0100
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                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 21:45 -0800
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 15:30 -0800
              Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 17:09 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-30 22:43 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-31 14:04 +0100
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 08:55 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 20:06 +0100
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-31 21:11 -0500
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 19:12 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 20:06 -0800
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                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 08:55 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 11:02 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 22:43 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-01 09:40 -0500
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 07:17 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-01 17:08 -0500
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 14:25 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-02 16:06 -0500
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                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-02 20:07 -0500
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-02-02 18:36 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2023-02-02 20:56 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-03 14:01 -0500
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                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-02-07 15:05 -0800
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                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-02-07 18:47 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 23:11 -0800
                Re: Crank Richard Hertz exposed Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 22:41 -0800
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