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Re: What is the speed of light????

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On 1/29/2023 7:20 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:42:11 PM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
>> On 1/29/2023 5:05 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>>>>>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>>>>>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
>>>>>
>>>>> The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
>>>>> questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
>>>>> the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
>>>>> widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
>>>>> The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
>>>>> publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
>>>>> The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
>>>>> experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
>>>>> literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
>>>>> information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
>>>>> lack of knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
>>>>> would say "Google it, idiot".
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip remaining nonsense>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll repeat the question but add...
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
>>>> universe
>>>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
>>>> vacuum????
>>>
>>> Google it, idiot.
>>>
>>> What is the speed of light in air?
>>>
>>> About 1,060,000,000 results...
>>>
>>> <snip idiot babble>
>> Readers of these sci newsgroups see this all too frequently, a clear
>> demonstration of the dunning-kruger effect where the idiot doesn't
>> realize just how much of an idiot he is being.
>>
>> One of the possible answers to the question as asked is 38 mph.
>>
>> https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=99111&page=1
>>
>> "Starmaker" doesn't understand the question he is asking. That's
>> really bad form.
> 
> Don't under-estimate him. His question is going deeper than it seems at first sight.
> 
> He's asking, very clearly: WHAT IS THE SPEED OF LIGHT, and nobody here understood what he possibly meant.

Any medium like this one is based on the use of language, not
based on guesswork related to "what he possibly meant." If
you're not familiar with Strunk & White a classical work on
English usage I commend it to you and anyone else who would
appreciate achieving an excellent grasp on what is meant in
writings by normal sentient reading level of 7th grade or
better authors. I use 7th grade reading level because that
used to be the reading level to which the New York Times
wrote. Good enough for the NYT, good enough for me.

> WHAT is different from WHICH. Are you going to deliver explanations using photons or waves?

The question asked was, "What is the speed of light NOT
in a vacuum??"

As asked, the question seeks a single velocity which is
an impossible mission because in reality it varies all
over the place from 38 mph upwards depending on conditions.
That 38mph is what has been achieved and it is likely
that some lower speed could be demonstrated by experiment
in the future.

Given the question he specifically asked, we cannot get
to the photon/wave issue you bring to the fore.

This is discussions about science newsgroup, not a discussions
about creative writing newsgroup, something that "Starmaker"
ignores with great regularity if not alarming frequency. I
hope you're not joining with him is such deviations from the
intent (see the charter) of this newsgroup.

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