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Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning
Date 2022-07-16 13:42 -0500
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On 7/16/2022 8:50 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 16-July-22 7:26 pm, Jess De campo wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>>>>> That is not how cosmologists consider the big-bang. There is nothing
>>>>> to say that the universe has not always been infinite in size, but
>>>>> then started expanding at the the big bang.
>>>>
>>>> infinite and expanding makes no sense. In physics. Never will. It's
>>>> nonsense. I beg you to reconsider.
>>>
>>> If the universe has no upper limit to its mass or extent, then that's
>>> how things are. The universe has no need to comply with human ideas
>>> about what is possible.
>>
>> now you talk bullshit. You really do. So there's no need to have it as
>> 13.6 byo, as "human idea".
> 
> If its 13.6 billion years, then that's what it is. We haven't imposed 
> that, just measured it, albeit indirectly.
> 
> Sylvia.

All this carry-on is only about human discovery/recognition of what is.

The reality exists regardless of what anybody thinks or says.

Are we having fun yet?

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Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-07-16 12:20 +1000
  No "length", no "time", no "entropy" at The Infinitely Precise Start of The Big Bang. "Dick's DriveIn"  <Dicks@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-07-15 20:23 -0700
  Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-07-16 19:01 +1000
    Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-07-16 23:50 +1000
      Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't  realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-07-16 10:10 -0700
        Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-16 13:45 -0500
      Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-16 13:42 -0500
    Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-16 13:55 -0500
      Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-16 12:17 -0700
      Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-16 21:33 +0200
        Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-16 16:02 -0500
          Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-07-17 09:29 +0200
            Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-07-17 12:00 -0500
              Re: Webb shows universe goes back 13.7 billion years fools won't realize the universe is infinite so cannot have a beginning Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-07-17 11:54 -0700

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