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Am 22.03.2022 um 16:51 schrieb patdolan:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 2:47:19 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 22.03.2022 um 07:48 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Epistemology is the theory of knowledge. It is concerned with the mind's
>>> relation to reality. What is it for this relation to be one of
>>> knowledge?
>>>
>>> Is that another word for the theory of relativity?
>>>
>> Mind and reality are not the same thing.
>>
>> If we observe the world from our own point of view and with our own
>> eyes, we are actually receiving an image, which we usually take for
>> reality itself.
>>
>> But it is actually wrong to call our mental image 'real', because a
>> picture is only a certain subset from what can possibly be seen.
>>
>> The 'real thing' is not necessarily visible, hence real things are often
>> regarded as imaginary.
>>
>> Now we could talk about our mental images or about the real world, but
>> have to do that seperately.
>>
>> These images are based on light, because that is actually what we see.
>>
>> Since light moves with finite velocity, the images change if we would move.
>>
>> Now the theory covering the change of images is called 'relativity theory'.
>>
>> This theory is therefore about the changes which occur in the mental
>> images in connection to relative movement.
>>
>> The movement itself is actually real, hence not a subject to such
>> changes, hence not covered by relativity theory in its current form,
>> because that is based on light and observers.
>>
>> Relative motion is actually real and possible, hence its other effects
>> (rather than distortion of images) should be discussed, if there are any.
>>
>> But most likely there are not too many of such effects.
>>
>>
>> TH
> It is claimed that Bergson played a pivotal role in seeing to it that Einstein was denied the Nobel for Relativity:
>
> https://www.meetup.com/The-Philosophy-Club/events/283106532/
>
Never heard of Bergson.

But that is an interesting quote from that page:

" Mathematicians and physicists, Henri Poincaré and Hendrik Lorentz 
aligned with Bergson against Einstein. Bergson was cited among the 
greatest thinkers of all time, along with Plato, Descartes, Hume and Kant."

Interesting is actually Poincare, who had ignored Einstein mainly.

anothoer quote

"His understanding of time as duration, at the heart of his thought, was 
considered revolutionary. Duration is what it feels like to experience 
time."

I don't think, that idea is revolutionary, but obvious.

Einstein had the idea of a 'calender like' time, but didn't see, that 
the universe has no calender, which we could eventually read.

Instead time is and always was measured as duration between a certain 
reference point in time and an event.


TH

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Epistemology The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-21 23:48 -0700
  Re: Epistemology Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-22 00:27 -0700
  Re: Epistemology The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-22 01:23 -0700
    Re: Epistemology Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-22 07:18 -0700
      Re: Epistemology The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-22 11:43 -0700
      Re: Epistemology Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-23 09:10 +0100
  Re: Epistemology Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-22 10:47 +0100
    Re: Epistemology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-22 14:51 +0000
      Re: Epistemology patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-03-22 08:56 -0700
        Re: Epistemology Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-22 16:18 +0000
      Re: Epistemology Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-23 01:54 -0700
    Re: Epistemology patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2022-03-22 08:51 -0700
      Re: Epistemology Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-23 08:44 +0100

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