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Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022)

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Date 2022-08-03 09:02 -0700
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Subject Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022)
From patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>

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On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 8:23:00 AM UTC-7, prokaryotic.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:09:44 AM UTC-5, Ricardo Jimenez wrote: 
> 
> > The treatment of special relativity, at first glance, seems the same 
> > as in the original edition. It is based on the Bondi k-factor. I 
> > don't like that. It makes more sense to me to establish, from the 
> > start, the gamma factor which is a simpler concept.
> I was first taught using the two-postulates approach, which of 
> course is currently recognized as being fraught with pedagogical 
> issues, especially 
> 
> As to which is the best "modern" approach to SR, well, there are 
> plenty of differences of opinion.
Prokary, no amount of lipstick will pretty up the pig that is SR.  Bondi is clearly an attempt at obfuscating the very heart of SR: it's postulates.  What you call rather harmlessly "pedagogical problems" are in fact fatal issues of logico-physical inconsistency.  You might as well commiserate with Ptolemy over the "pedagogical problems" of his earth-centered solar system.

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Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2022-07-31 19:43 -0400
  Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-07-31 20:19 -0700
    Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Neal Giordano <bqwc@gcfikwuf.ja> - 2022-08-01 14:30 +0000
      Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 07:54 -0700
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    Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-08-02 09:00 +0200
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    Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Ufonaut <ufonaut9@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 02:34 -0700
      Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 04:04 -0700
        Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 04:11 -0700
        Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 04:34 -0700
      Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2022-08-03 11:09 -0400
        Re: Sidney Coleman's Lectures on Relativity (published 2022) Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 08:22 -0700
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