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Re: Oh my God!

From tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Oh my God!
Date 2024-09-28 18:36 +0000
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 17:00:08 +0000, gharnagel wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 14:18:08 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 13:29:36 +0000, gharnagel wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 4:07:39 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote:
>>>
>>> > Like other fringe posters, you believe that EVERYBODY who disagrees
>>> > with you is misguided.
>>>
>>> Not at all.  I greatly respected all these criticisms from you and
>>> the rest of the valiant crew on the relativity boards, and the
>>> published paper has responded to all of them.  I wish you would
>>> take the time to actually read and understand it.
>>
>> ======================================================================
>> It didn't take me more than a few minutes looking at your paper to
>> understand that you are STILL ripping spacetime to shreds:
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mZJcqaV2KieXFNU5iWHCsVtDK21HOLWE/view?usp=sharing
>
> Only "a few minutes"?  Then you haven't understood that there is no
> "ripping spacetime to shreds"

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Your arguments really haven't changed over the years. You have merely
glossed over your points by arguing about instrumental detectability.
So no, it really hasn't been necessary to spend more than a few
minutes finding where you have denied the validity of LT and special
relativity.

Looking at https://vixra.org/pdf/2011.0076v1.pdf, I see that after
dissing a few Minkowski diagrams at the beginning, you revert to your
so-called "laboratory frame" diagrams that allow you to freely
set up absurdities without the absurdities being readily apparent.
======================================================================

> The objection that Al made (and you reiterated) that all objects
> should appear in all frames is laid to rest in my DOI, and I also
> explained it to you in a previous post:

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Reality does not change due to the motions of the observer.
======================================================================

> "Of course, an observer must use instruments to observe particles,
> so a method of observing particles which have u > c^2/v was
> described in the very paper that you were criticizing:
> DOI: 10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101.

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Your arguments here offer no improvement over the vixra articles.
======================================================================

> And using instruments, one can detect tachyons in the u > c^2/v
> region:
>
> "the tachyon source sending a signal at u = ∞, the observer can’t
> receive the signal directly, but the observer could allow the
> receiver to move toward the source at speed, v. Thus the speed of
> the tachyon relative to the receiver could be nearly infinite and
> its energy, relative to the receiver, would be greater than zero."
>
> Thus A's criticism is avoided, so does that satisfy your concern
> about shredding spacetime, or do you mean something else?

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Absolutely not. You still insist that reality changes as a result of
observer motion. One cannot make excuses on the basis of factors
supposedly affecting instrumental performance.
======================================================================

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  Re: Oh my God! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-09-24 20:10 -0700
  Re: Oh my God! Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 12:28 +0200
    Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-25 15:34 +0000
      Re: Oh my God! Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-25 17:57 +0200
        Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-26 12:44 +0000
          Re: Oh my God! Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:09 +0200
            Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-26 16:08 +0000
            Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-27 04:05 +0000
              Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-27 11:44 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-27 14:19 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-27 14:33 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-27 21:41 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-28 04:07 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-28 06:02 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-28 13:29 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-28 17:00 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-28 18:36 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-28 20:28 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-27 14:43 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-27 14:59 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-27 15:09 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-27 21:52 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-28 00:23 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-28 01:10 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-28 01:21 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-28 03:09 +0000
        Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-26 13:10 +0000
      Re: Oh my God! Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-25 18:03 +0200
        Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-25 23:17 +0000
          Re: Oh my God! Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-09-26 04:07 +0200
      Re: Oh my God! nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2024-09-28 09:11 +0200
        Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-28 12:00 +0000
    Re: Oh my God! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-09-25 09:42 -0700
    Re: Oh my God! Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-26 08:25 +0200
      Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-26 14:22 +0000
        Re: Oh my God! Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-09-28 10:50 +0200
          Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:26 +0000
            Re: Oh my God! Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-09-29 12:37 +0300
              Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-29 13:56 +0000
            Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-09-29 20:53 +0000
              Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-09-30 23:48 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-10-01 01:13 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-01 13:51 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-10-01 15:55 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-01 18:47 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-01 19:11 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:56 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:13 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:25 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Python <python@not-formail.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:34 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-02 06:55 +0200
                Re: Oh my God! Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-02 06:53 +0200
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-10-01 19:24 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-01 22:18 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-10-02 22:26 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-03 03:04 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-03 09:17 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-03 13:39 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-03 17:41 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-04 13:26 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-05 12:59 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) - 2024-10-06 12:00 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-10-06 13:23 +0000
                Re: Oh my God! Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-10-06 15:41 +0200
  Re: Oh my God! Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-09-26 12:14 +0300
    Re: Oh my God! Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2024-09-26 13:09 +0000
      Re: Oh my God! Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-09-29 12:34 +0300
        Re: Oh my God! Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 19:28 +0200

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