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From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject Re: What time is it?
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > >
> > > On 3/7/2026 7:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 3/7/2026 9:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 7:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2026 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the time of the universe?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The universe has no. It's a human made
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> tool for human data processing.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about the time on your wristwatch, or
> > > >>>>>>>>>> the time of the person next to you, or the time anywhere on earth or
> > > >>>>>>>>>> nearby...
> > > >>>>>>>>>> what yous people call local time..
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Sometimes we call "local time" one of zone times.
> > > >>>>>>>>> I would rather avoid it, however - since  relativistic
> > > >>>>>>>>> idiots  would for sure take it as support for their
> > > >>>>>>>>> ideological idiocy.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about a much bigger time..the time of the universe.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Sure, you're talking about some mystical delusion;
> > > >>>>>>>>> as said, there is no.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> The problem is...your 'local clocks' are wayyyyyyyy behind universe
> > > >>>>>>>> time.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Yous did not exist at the beginning of time, and yous will not exist at
> > > >>>>>>>> the end of time..
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Your 'moments' is just a few seconds of a lifetime.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> If the universe is 13.billion years old....where do you fit in? Only a
> > > >>>>>>>> blink of the eye...less than 60 seconds.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> In other words, the time of the universe cannot be measured with your
> > > >>>>>>> clocks or even your...math.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> 'God does not use clocks or math with the universe.'
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Math does not represent the universe...
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> there are numbers on a clock.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> throw out the numbers.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> throw out the clock!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Wait, where is dat clock...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I can remove the numbers, hands and notches and add...Stars.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Well, yes, you can remove the numbers, hands
> > > >>>>> and notches, or just smash it. But no, you
> > > >>>>> can't add stars.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> What do you mean you can't add stars? Our Sun/Star is used by clocks to
> > > >>>> indicate time.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 12:pm means the star is up there all the way.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'm a clock
> > > >>>> The universe is a clock...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> remove the face of the universe and it reveals
> > > >>>> the mechanics of the universe...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> remove the face of the clock...
> > > >>>> samething.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> remove the face of a woman
> > > >>>> samething.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> it's all...machines.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here is what the universe looks like with the face removed:
> > > >>
> > > >>   https://www.youtube.com/embed/IkCku4TM8HA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You peoples are forgetting
> > > > people used stars before clocks...
> > > >
> > > > water clocks
> > > > candles
> > > > sandclocks
> > > >
> > > > to measure the time of the universe you need a...
> > > >
> > > > StarClock
> > > >
> > > > ClockUniverse
> > >
> > > Fortunately, there is no such thing, so
> > > I don't need your clocks.
> >
> > DialSun.
> 
> is a StarClock.
> 
> You're sooo close to the Sun, you might forget it's actually a ...star.
> 
> The StarDial require no batteries. And it last a long time...
> 
> you little people call it a sundial.
> 
> I just wanna know...What is the time of the universe?

Now, is there anything 'local' about a sundial? There are sundials
everywhere in the universe!

The motion of shadows in the universe can tell time.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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