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Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?
Date 2024-04-02 15:46 -0700
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JanPB wrote:
> 
> Richard Hachel wrote:
> 
> > For a long time now, I have provided proof that the theory of relativity,
> > at least as taught today, was incorrect.
> > I was then accused, for ideological convenience, of being anti-relativist,
> > which is false. I never said anywhere that the theory of relativity was
> > false, I simply said, and tenaciously, that it was incorrect, which is far
> > from being the same thing.
> > Many relativistic equations are correct, but not all of them, and those
> > that are not, are not significantly correct.
> > What is very strange is that despite the ease with which I refute certain
> > points, those who read me often get stuck in stupid refutations, like for
> > example Python, which is a very pathognomonic case.
> > Faced with the problem I pose, he, like everyone else, loses his temper,
> > insults, and says nonsense.
> > One of the greatest theoretical proofs that I cannot be wrong, despite
> > everything that people will tell you (because the opposition is very
> > strong to the new concepts, even if they are superb and demonstrable), is
> > the way in which I give a number of equations where none are given or
> > clearly abstract equations.
> > A textbook case is the Langevin traveler in apparent mode (what we would
> > see in ultra-powerful telescopes) which I have been talking about for 40
> > years in a dismaying intellectual desert.
> > Let's take the classic case:
> > Let's take a look at Stella's return. What could be simpler to understand
> > than Stella's own time, in the example considered (Vo=0.8c, d=12al), will
> > be Tr=9 years for this return.
> > No one has ever been able to contradict, and no one will ever contradict
> > (except the Newtonians, but with them, we won't row very far).
> > But what could be simpler to understand than Stella, in her frame of
> > reference, sees the earth (Vo=0.8c) returning towards her at Vapp=4c.
> > I remind you, as Jean-Pierre Python finds it hard to believe, that
> > Vapp=Vo/(1+cosµ.Vo/c) and that those who have been contradicting me for
> > 40 years had better go back to school.
> > The evidence is then dazzling for anyone who wants to abandon Newtonian
> > and even Einsteinian a priori. The covered distance
> > by land for Stella cannot be the same as the distance traveled by Stella
> > for Terrence (12 al).
> > The distance is obviously x=Vapp.Tr
> 
> > x=4c*9years
> 
> > So D'=D.sqrt(1-Vo²/c²)/(1+cosµ.Vo/c)
> 
> > Or so, D'=D.[sqrt(1+Vr²/c²)+cosµ.Vr/c]
> 
> > It is so obvious that I will never understand how one can oppose rapid and
> > inconsiderate refutations to everything I have been saying for 40 years,
> > and in particular on rotating frames of reference or uniformly accelerated
> > frames of reference, theoretical and logical proofs in support, supporting
> > experimental evidence too.
> 
> > At this level, we are no longer in science, but in sociology, even
> > theology:
> > “We don’t want this man to rule over us.”
> > It's downright stupid.
> 
> > R.H.
> 
> You will be condemned to forever wasting your time on this (like in the
> article you posted) as long as you refuse to learn physics.
> 
> --
> Jan

and how many years does it take to learn...physics?


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[SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-29 13:25 +0000
  Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Mee'k Pagano Selvaggio <eaoa@eeso.it> - 2024-03-29 14:16 +0000
  Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-03-30 13:22 +0100
    Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-30 13:15 +0000
    Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-30 13:31 +0000
      Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-03-31 14:08 +0200
        Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 12:23 +0000
          Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-31 09:33 -0400
            Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-31 16:06 +0200
            Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 14:54 +0000
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Gaylord Chalyh Turubanov <nynro@raanl.ru> - 2024-03-31 15:22 +0000
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 09:25 -0400
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Mitchel Shirinkin Balahowski <hh@hmhec.ru> - 2024-04-02 14:18 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Ren Christakos Haritopoulos <ana@lror.gr> - 2024-04-02 14:33 +0000
          Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-01 22:00 +0200
            Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-01 20:23 +0000
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-02 14:50 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 13:25 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-03 22:26 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-03 23:12 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-04 00:08 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-03 19:28 -0700
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-05 19:39 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 13:29 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 13:48 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-02 18:39 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-02 21:10 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-02 19:18 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 20:59 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-02 21:39 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-03 07:15 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-03 05:39 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-03 08:31 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Python <python@org.invalid> - 2024-04-03 21:01 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-04 06:56 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Sammie Pásztor Buzás <ers@ppjstt.hu> - 2024-04-04 20:19 +0000
        Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 12:30 +0000
          Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-31 09:36 -0400
            Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-31 16:05 +0200
            Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 15:06 +0000
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-31 17:33 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-03-31 21:13 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-01 10:26 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-01 11:50 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> - 2024-04-01 16:54 +0200
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 11:23 -0400
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) - 2024-04-01 12:50 +0000
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-01 16:55 +0200
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 11:21 -0400
                Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-04-02 18:33 +0200
          Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-01 22:00 +0200
            Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-01 20:03 +0000
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2024-04-02 15:03 +0200
              Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-02 11:24 -0400
        Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2024-03-31 15:59 +0200
  Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 00:50 +0000
    Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  palsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 01:14 +0000
      Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 20:11 -0700
    Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 09:39 +0000
      Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 12:08 +0000
      Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 12:36 +0000
  Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) - 2024-04-02 19:19 +0000
    Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2024-04-02 20:49 +0000
    Re: [SR] Dismaying intellectual desert?  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-04-02 15:46 -0700

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