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Re: How I deal with the enormous amount of spam

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Ross Finlayson wrote:
> 
> On 01/30/2024 12:54 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> > On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 5:02:05 PM UTC-8, palsing wrote:
> >> Tom Roberts wrote:
> >>
> >>> I use Thunderbird to read Usenet. Recently sci.physics.relativity has
> >>> been getting hundreds of spam posts each day, completely overwhelming
> >>> legitimate content. These spam posts share the property that they are
> >>> written in a non-latin script.
> >>
> >>> Thunderbird implements message filters that can mark a message Read. So
> >>> I created a filter to run on sci.physics.relativity that marks messages
> >>> Read. Then when reading the newsgroups, I simply display only unread
> >>> messages. The key to making this work is to craft the filter so it marks
> >>> messages in which the Subject matches any of a dozen characters picked
> >>> from some spam messages.
> >>
> >>> This doesn't completely eliminate the spam, but it is now only a few
> >>> messages per day.
> >>
> >>> Tom Roberts
> >> I would like to do the same thing, so I installed Thunderbird... but setting it up to read newsgroups is beyond my paltry computer skills and is not at all intuitive. If anyone can point to an idiot-proof tutorial for doing this It would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >> \Paul Alsing
> >
> > Yeah, it's pretty bad, or, worse anybody's ever seen it.
> >
> > I as well sort of mow the lawn a bit or mark the spam.
> >
> > It seems alright if it'll be a sort of clean break:  on Feb 22 according to Google,
> > Google will break its compeerage to Usenet, and furthermore make read-only
> > the archives, what it has, what until then, will be as it was.
> >
> > Over on sci.math I've had the idea for a while of making some brief and
> > special purpose Usenet compeers, for only some few groups, or, you
> > know, the _belles lettres_ of the text hierarchy.
> >
> > "Meta:  a usenet server just for sci.math"
> >    -- https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/zggff_pVEks
> >
> > So, there you can read the outlook of this kind of thing, then while sort
> > of simple as the protocol is simple and its implementations widespread,
> > how to deal with the "signal and noise" of "exposed messaging destinations
> > on the Internet", well on that thread I'm theorizing a sort of, "NOOBNB protocol",
> > figuring to make an otherwise just standard Usenet compeer, and also for
> > email or messaging destinations, sort of designed with the expectation that
> > there will be spam, and spam and ham are hand in hand, to exclude it in simple terms.
> >
> > NOOBNB:  New Old Off Bot Non Bad, Curated/Purgatory/Raw triple-feed
> >
> > (That and a firmer sort of "Load Shed" or "Load Hold" at the transport layer.)
> >
> > Also it would be real great if at least there was surfaced to the Internet a
> > read-only view of any message by its message ID, a "URL", or as for a "URI",
> > a "URN", a reliable perma-link in the IETF "news" protocol, namespace.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math/c/zggff_pVEks
> >
> > I wonder that there's a reliable sort of long-term project that surfaces
> > "news" protocol message-IDs, ....  It's a stable, standards-based protocol.
> >
> >
> > Thunderbird, "SLRN", ....  Thanks for caring.  We care.
> >
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics.relativity/c/ToBo6XOymUw
> >
> 
> One fellow reached me via e-mail and he said, hey, the Googler spam is
> outrageous, can we do anything about it?  Would you write a script to
> funnel all their message-ID's into the abuse reporting?  And I was like,
> you know, about 2008 I did just that, there was a big spam flood,
> and I wrote a little script to find them and extract their posting-account,
> and the message-ID, and a little script to post to the posting-host,
> each one of the wicked spams.
> 
> At the time that seemed to help, they sort of dried up, here there's
> that basically they're not following the charter, but, it's the
> posting-account
> in the message headers that indicate the origin of the post, not the
> email address.  So, I wonder, given that I can extract the posting-accounts
> of all the spams, how to match the posting-account to then determine
> whether it's a sockpuppet-farm or what, and basically about sending them up.

Let me see your little script. Post it here.



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