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Re: Proper time and relativity

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Proper time and relativity
Date 2022-11-12 12:09 -0800
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Richard Hachel wrote:
> >
> > Hachel's principle.
> >
> > "If two relativistic mobiles travel, in equal observable times, identical
> > paths, their proper times will remain equal."
> >
> > It's a very simple sentence that I think is quite correct.
> >
> > Yet this principle deeply shocks all relativist physicists in the world.
> >
> > R.H.
> 
> There is only one proper time, ...
> 
> de other guys watch don't count.
> 
> If you're wearing two watches, which one has the correct time?


In other words, If I'm wearing two watches, in equal observable times, and I'm traveling in identical
 paths, which watch has the proper time?


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-12 09:42 +0000
  Re: Proper time and relativity Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-12 11:19 +0100
    Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-12 10:24 +0000
      Re: Proper time and relativity Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2022-11-12 13:28 +0100
    Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-12 03:13 -0800
  Re: Proper time and relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-12 10:26 -0800
    Re: Proper time and relativity "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2022-11-12 10:53 -0800
    Re: Proper time and relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-12 12:09 -0800
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      Re: Proper time and relativity whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-11-12 15:32 -0600
  Re: Proper time and relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-12 15:10 -0800
    Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-12 23:42 +0000
      Re: Proper time and relativity Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-11-13 12:49 +0200
        Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-13 12:34 +0000
          Re: Proper time and relativity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-13 11:38 -0500
            Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-13 16:51 +0000
              Re: Proper time and relativity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-13 11:57 -0500
                Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-13 08:58 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-13 17:13 +0000
                Re: Proper time and relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-13 13:05 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-14 00:29 -0500
                Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-13 23:33 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-14 14:13 +0000
                Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 06:34 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 12:16 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-14 20:29 +0000
                Re: Proper time and relativity Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 15:54 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Python <python@invalid.org> - 2022-11-15 07:19 +0100
                Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-15 12:35 +0000
                Re: Proper time and relativity Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-11-15 06:18 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-15 07:57 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-15 17:30 +0000
                Re: Proper time and relativity Stan Fultoni <fultonistan@gmail.com> - 2022-11-15 11:47 -0800
                Re: Proper time and relativity Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-11-15 13:30 +0200
                Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-15 12:55 +0000
                Re: Proper time and relativity Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-11-15 17:44 +0200
                Re: Proper time and relativity Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-11-16 02:12 -0500
          Re: Proper time and relativity Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-11-14 13:13 +0200
            Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 03:16 -0800
        Re: Proper time and relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-11-13 14:48 +0100
  Re: Proper time and relativity Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2022-11-12 23:05 -0600
    Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-13 00:11 -0800
    Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-13 12:09 +0000
      Re: Proper time and relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-11-13 10:38 -0800
      Re: Proper time and relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-13 13:03 -0800
    Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-13 12:13 +0000
  Re: Proper time and relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-13 09:45 +0100
    Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-13 12:26 +0000
      Re: Proper time and relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-13 21:55 +0100
        Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-14 00:59 +0000
          Re: Proper time and relativity "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-11-14 13:29 +0100
            Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-14 14:21 +0000
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    Re: Proper time and relativity Richard Hachel <r.hachel@frite.fr> - 2022-11-14 14:16 +0000
      Re: Proper time and relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 15:19 -0800
        Re: Proper time and relativity Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-11-14 22:28 -0800

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