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Re: General Gravity Equation

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: General Gravity Equation
Date 2022-04-07 21:31 -0700
Organization The Starmaker Organization
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Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 5:20:23 PM UTC-4, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> J. J. Lodder <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> >>> kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 2:16:49 PM UTC-4, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>>>> kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 4:54:27 PM UTC-4, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>>>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 3:46:42 PM UTC-4, Python wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Maciej Wozniak schwrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 18:51:37 UTC+2, bodk...:
> >>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is. All laws of nature are covariant.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not any "laws of nature" but your moronic jargon, poor
> >>>>>>>>>>> halfbrain.
> >>>>>>>>>> "One of the best logician Humanity ever had" is not even able
> >>>>>>>>>> to spot that "a law of nature" have to be "covariant" is almost
> >>>>>>>>>> a tautology. An non covariant law couldn't even be considered
> >>>>>>>>>> so, let alone identified as such.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> According to Odd, newton's gravitation law is not covariance.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is not Lorentz covariant. It does not have Lorentz covariance.
> >>>>>>>> To say Newton's gravitational law is not covariance is like saying
> >>>>>>>> "Sheep are not lion." It's crappy English. Please speak English.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So newton's law of gravitational law is refuted......right?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Newton's law of gravitation has been known to be wrong for a
> >>>>>>>> century. It doesn't get the right answers experimentally. It's a
> >>>>>>>> pretty good approximation, but only an approximation.
> >>>>>>> And nowadays, with accuracies in positions of 10^-9 or better
> >>>>>>> Newton is no longer a good approximation.
> >>>>>>> Everything you calculate with Newton only
> >>>>>>> is in direct conflict with observation,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's why my equation included a correction factor (Fab/Faa)
> >>>>> So you can calculate the moon's motion accurate to 5 cm?
> >>>>
> >>>> Moon's motion accurate to 5cm is an assertion.
> >>>
> >>> Nope, the Moon's distance is routinely measured to that accuracy,
> >>> using the laser reflectors installed there by Apollo astronauts.
> >>>
> >>> The measurements were used to (almost) rule out
> >>> the Brans-Dicke theory of gravity,
> >>> which was a competitor to general relativity.
> >>>
> >>>> It assumes that the earth observer is in a state of absolute rest.
> >>>
> >>> Nope again. Just fire a laser pulse at the laser reflectors,
> >>> and measure the return time. Average over many pulses.
> >>> The results are compatible with calculations of the Moon's orbit,
> >>> also to that precision. (taking general relativity into account)
> >>>
> >>> So yes, it really is that kind of precision that you are up against,
> >>>
> >>> Jan
> >>>
> >> I should also add to the list of Ken’s dodges that he is keen on excluding
> >> any experimental measurement that’s already been done that would rule out
> >> his ideas. He does this by insisting that the measurement relies on certain
> >> assumptions, which he states without justification, and then saying that
> >> the assumptions are wrong.
> >>
> >> Ken basically is willing to say ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, to defend his
> >> ideas and to stave off criticism. He’s not about to allow the possibility
> >> that it’s wrong. He’s got too much invested in it. This, if nothing else,
> >> shows that he’s a shameless fraud and doesn’t know how to behave like a
> >> scientist.
> >
> > Moron, my equation is the most advanced in the field of gravitational science.
> 
> You saying that means nothing. Only if someone else says it will that
> matter.


Ken Seto's equation is the most advanced in the field of gravitational
science. 


ain't i someone?


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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-02 07:09 -0700
  Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-02 07:22 -0700
  Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-02 15:48 +0000
    Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-03 09:26 -0700
      Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-03 16:51 +0000
        Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-03 10:08 -0700
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              Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-04 12:50 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-04 21:02 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 08:34 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 15:52 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 12:58 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 20:11 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 13:25 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 20:57 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-06 12:57 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 17:16 +0000
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                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 18:57 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-07 16:30 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation Mitch Yamaguchi <sdvw@aozrihai.wg> - 2022-04-07 20:33 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-07 23:34 +0200
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                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-07 23:34 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 08:29 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 15:46 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-08 21:58 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 18:05 -0700
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        Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-03 10:12 -0700
          Re: General Gravity Equation Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-03 21:46 +0200
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            Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-04 12:47 -0700
              Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-04 20:46 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-04 22:54 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-04 22:35 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 08:28 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 15:52 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 09:06 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 17:09 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 13:08 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 20:17 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-05 20:16 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 13:17 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 20:21 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2022-04-05 13:55 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 21:02 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 12:01 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 19:24 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 08:06 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 15:46 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 08:30 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 15:44 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 09:04 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 16:16 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-09 18:06 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 10:32 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 14:12 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 21:38 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 15:40 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-11 01:24 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 21:21 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-11 00:28 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-08 21:58 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 13:06 -0700
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                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 15:44 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-09 20:28 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 14:18 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 21:38 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-11 00:35 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-11 13:20 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-11 21:00 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-12 08:13 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-12 12:23 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-12 23:27 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-11 18:24 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-04-11 20:37 -0500
                Re: General Gravity Equation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-07 16:36 -0400
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-05 23:13 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 21:20 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 00:40 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 12:08 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 19:24 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-04-07 21:31 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 12:09 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 11:51 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 18:54 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 12:12 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 19:24 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 13:15 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Mitch Yamaguchi <sdvw@aozrihai.wg> - 2022-04-07 21:09 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-07 23:34 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 08:37 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 15:46 +0000
                Re: General Gravity Equation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-08 21:58 +0200
                Re: General Gravity Equation Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 08:42 -0700
                Re: General Gravity Equation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 16:16 +0000

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