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Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light?

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2023-12-08 11:50 -0800
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Subject Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light?
From patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net>

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On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 7:54:13 AM UTC-8, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 11/9/23 12:21 PM, patdolan wrote: 
> > Or does the Principle of Relativity operate instantaneously 
> > throughout the universe?
> The question does not make sense, as the PoR is part of SR, which is 
> known to only be valid LOCALLY. 
> 
> > [... more nonsense] 
> 
> Let's ignore the nonsense of the 'BBP', and just consider a distant 
> observer starting at rest relative to the solar system, and accelerating 
> toward it. They are continuously observing the solar system via light 
> emitted by it. As they increase velocity, the Doppler shift increases 
> correspondingly, and they observe that LIGHT FROM THE SOLAR SYSTEM shows 
> the planets speeding up (and getting more blueshifted). Of course this 
> observer does not affect the solar system in any way: the planets 
> themselves do not change speed, it is only LIGHT from them that APPEARS 
> to speed up, to this accelerating observer. 
> 
> Tom Roberts
Now go to the part of the story where the planets start to slow down, along with all the clocks located on those planets.

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Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-08 09:54 -0600
  Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-12-08 11:50 -0800
    Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2023-12-09 11:14 +0100
    Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-09 13:47 -0600
  Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-09 14:14 -0700
    Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-10 09:48 -0700
      Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-10 11:39 -0700
        Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-10 15:00 -0700
          Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Cresencio Nurmuhametov Pasternak <arth@mecucnec.rn> - 2023-12-10 23:29 +0000
            Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 18:53 -0600
          Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-11 10:32 -0700
    Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-11 11:49 -0600
      Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-11 14:55 -0700
        Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-13 19:19 -0600
          Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-13 17:28 -0800
            Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-13 18:39 -0800
          Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-14 12:47 -0700
            Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-14 13:55 -0600
              Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-14 13:32 -0700
                Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-14 18:31 -0800
              Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Mike Fontenot <mlfasf@comcast.net> - 2023-12-14 15:27 -0700
  Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 16:05 -0800
    Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-12-10 16:32 -0800
      Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 17:43 -0800
        Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? patdolan <patdolan@comcast.net> - 2023-12-10 18:41 -0800
          Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 18:51 -0800
            Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 16:17 -0800
      Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-11 11:55 -0600
        Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 10:39 -0800
          Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-12-11 20:40 -0600
            Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 19:07 -0800
              Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 20:03 -0800
            Re: Does the Principle of Relativity travel at the speed of light? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 19:08 -0800

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