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Re: A short proof of the inconsistency of The Shit

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On November 5, Richard Hertz wrote:
> More ridiculous is the LACK OF explanation of symmetry in relativity, explained by pure breed
> relativists that maintain the Wiki page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation
> "Time dilation"
> "Suppose there is a clock at rest in F. If a time interval is measured at the same point in that frame,
> then the transformations give this interval in F′ by Δt′ = γΔt.
> Conversely, suppose there is a clock at rest in F′. If an interval is measured at the same point
> in that frame, then the transformations give this interval in F by Δt = γΔt′.
> Either way, each observer measures the time interval between ticks of a moving clock to be longer
> by a factor γ than the time interval between ticks of his own clock".
> CONCLUSION: Both clocks show the same "time dilation", depending on which frame of
> reference at relative rest is taken for calculations. 
> This alone shows the incoherence of this pseudo-science

A railroad track runs north-south.  A train runs northward.  Al and Bob sit at 
stations along the track, with Al south of Bob.  Carl and Dave ride the train, 
Carl in front of Dave.

Carl rendezvous with Al, they zero their clocks.  
I)  the track frame:  Eventually, Carl meets Bob, they compare clocks.  
  Later, Al and Bob agree that Carl's clock runs slow.
II)  the train frame:  Eventually, Al meets Dave, they compare clocks.  
  Later, Carl and Dave agree that Al's clock runs slow.
 
These are TWO DIFFERENT EXPERIMENTS.  

However, you're correct, the Wiki pseudo-explanation referenced above is 
muddled, in a too common fashion; "Al sees Carl's clock running slow, while 
Carl sees Al's clock running slow."  Not even wrong.  Al's clock is observed 
by Carl AND HIS GRID; ditto Carl's clock, by symmetry.  Al and Carl, each by 
himself, can't do it.



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Rich

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