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"The Day The Earth Stood Still"

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
Last post2025-06-21 15:45 -0700
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  "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 21:27 -0700
      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 08:58 -0700
        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 22:46 -0700
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 16:57 -0700
        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-20 08:21 +0200
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Harlie Kabanov <le@lknel.ru> - 2025-05-20 12:09 +0000
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 17:07 -0700
            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 22:27 -0700
            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 23:56 -0600
              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-26 08:03 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-26 10:47 -0700
                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-27 09:07 +0200
                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-27 21:37 -0400
                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-28 08:02 +0200
                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 17:11 -0400
                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Laron Todorovsky <ad@olao.ru> - 2025-05-29 07:15 +0000
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:51 +0200
                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:41 +0200
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Coy Shahbanov <acboonso@voo.ru> - 2025-05-31 15:15 +0000
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-31 17:28 -0400
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-01 09:39 +0200
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Lloyal Balagurov <lag@auryluvya.ru> - 2025-06-01 08:48 +0000
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 17:57 -0400
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 18:49 +0200
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 18:49 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-03 09:11 +0200
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:41 -0400
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:55 +0200
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 06:17 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:45 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:05 +0200
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 01:02 -0400
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 00:55 -0400
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-01 00:26 -0700
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 17:43 +0200
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 00:03 -0600
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 01:28 -0400
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 23:44 -0600
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-09 07:04 +0200
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-08 23:49 -0700
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 06:56 -0400
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-10 18:23 -0700
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-11 08:01 +0200
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-13 10:14 -0700
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-14 09:03 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 01:23 -0700
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 10:08 +0200
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 09:03 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 12:58 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:38 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:56 +0200
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:55 -0400
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 10:02 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:13 -0700
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:41 -0600
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:07 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:17 +0200
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:00 -0700
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:07 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:40 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:22 +0200
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:50 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:09 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:41 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 10:20 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 11:27 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 08:04 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 09:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:28 +0200
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-21 09:19 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-24 10:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 07:39 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:04 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-27 09:18 -0700
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 10:16 -0700
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 11:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 13:13 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:32 +0200
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Leighton Großer <elge@if.de> - 2025-06-28 16:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-28 10:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:25 -0600
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:38 +0200
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:35 -0600
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:40 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 09:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 16:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:23 -0600
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:35 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-07-14 16:58 -0400
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-15 20:23 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-15 01:50 +0000
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Kurtiss Dogadaev <osdidr@tkiae.ru> - 2025-07-19 22:55 +0000
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-19 18:15 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 01:27 -0400
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 09:02 -0700
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 19:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 23:06 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:21 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 11:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 13:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 14:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 16:31 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:41 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:38 -0600
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-23 22:03 +0200
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 14:04 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Reiniel Ślązak <le@eewl.pl> - 2025-07-23 22:14 +0000
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-23 15:37 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 15:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-24 13:00 +0200
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:51 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Joe Baiburski <ek@uruik.ru> - 2025-07-24 21:01 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:15 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Blaine Baidakov <aad@aannaoii.ru> - 2025-07-25 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:45 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 11:57 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:47 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 11:58 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:48 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:35 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:42 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:46 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 21:17 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:26 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-27 13:39 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:57 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 14:33 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:04 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-28 00:05 +0100
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:01 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-27 13:00 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-27 17:33 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 11:06 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 11:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:38 +0200
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:43 -0400
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:34 -0600
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-28 01:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 23:47 -0600
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:43 +0200
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-14 04:01 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:09 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:11 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-20 15:13 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:41 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:11 -0400
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Emmet Dubatolov <ev@mo.ru> - 2025-07-25 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 14:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-27 10:22 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:37 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 13:53 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-30 22:56 -0500
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:49 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:58 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:09 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 14:09 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 15:08 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 12:39 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 17:37 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:36 +0200
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 10:08 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-15 17:52 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alph Dmitrovsky <mtvsvo@tsklns.ru> - 2025-06-15 18:30 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:44 -0400
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:17 -0600
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 11:25 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 16:32 -0400
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 17:59 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:46 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:04 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:00 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-18 06:56 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Bob Tulakov <vtbktv@akkbo.ru> - 2025-06-18 17:50 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:44 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 23:02 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 20:05 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:40 -0400
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-15 18:44 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 09:46 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 16:58 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-17 00:58 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:23 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:06 -0400
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 15:41 -0400
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-18 13:58 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 06:12 -0400
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-19 07:12 -0400
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 12:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 14:47 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 14:53 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:07 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 09:18 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:36 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:58 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:23 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:26 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Franz Makhrov <vrrf@nfvrzr.ru> - 2025-06-20 14:39 +0000
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:13 +0200
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:49 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:38 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Brent Baidukov <uv@rtkr.ru> - 2025-06-20 14:53 +0000
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:02 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 13:09 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 15:15 -0700
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Craig <x@y.com> - 2025-06-18 18:25 +0000
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:54 -0400
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 19:57 -0700
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:13 -0700
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:49 -0400
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 09:53 +0200
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-15 14:45 +0300
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:27 +0200
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-17 16:25 +0300
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:28 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Michele Balabuha <ehlae@hue.ru> - 2025-06-18 10:17 +0000
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:33 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-19 12:55 +0300
                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 23:10 -0600
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:13 -0600
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:40 -0700
      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:45 -0700

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#638962

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-27 10:16 -0700
Message-ID<103mjm3$931l$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638959
OrigInfoJunkie wrote:
> On 6/26/2025 10:39 PM, Thomas Heger gelogen:
>> Am Dienstag000024, 24.06.2025 um 12:28 schrieb chine.bleu:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Well, possibly you were correct.
>>>>
>>>> But how could you possibly know?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold
>>>> them to the USA.
>>>>
>>>> 'Selling of A-bombs' would be actually a relatively 'rational'
>>>> behavior,
>>>> since such a-bombs are precious, though movable, objects.
>>>>
>>>> (BTW, that's why I think, that Iran has already a-bombs.)
>>>
>>> Now tell us how Germany made the first jet fighter.
>>>
>>> The Gloster Meteor does ot count.
>>>
>>
>> There existed a number of Jet-fighters in Germany at the end of WWII.
> There were *two* operational models of jet fighter in Germany at the end
> of WWII, the Me 262 and the Heinkel He 162. The latter was a piece of
> crap, made mostly of wood. The Me 262 was decent, but the collapsing
> Luftwaffe had a hard time keeping them in the air.

German jet engines lasted about ten hours before becoming scrap metal. 
British jet engines lasted much longer, German industry could not build 
replacement engines fast enough to keep jets in operation.

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#638966

FromJ Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-27 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<103mog0$a5i5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638962
On 6/27/2025 10:16 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
> OrigInfoJunkie wrote:
>> On 6/26/2025 10:39 PM, Thomas Heger gelogen:
>>> Am Dienstag000024, 24.06.2025 um 12:28 schrieb chine.bleu:
>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>> Well, possibly you were correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> But how could you possibly know?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold
>>>>> them to the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Selling of A-bombs' would be actually a relatively 'rational'
>>>>> behavior,
>>>>> since such a-bombs are precious, though movable, objects.
>>>>>
>>>>> (BTW, that's why I think, that Iran has already a-bombs.)
>>>>
>>>> Now tell us how Germany made the first jet fighter.
>>>>
>>>> The Gloster Meteor does ot count.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There existed a number of Jet-fighters in Germany at the end of WWII.
>> There were *two* operational models of jet fighter in Germany at the end
>> of WWII, the Me 262 and the Heinkel He 162. The latter was a piece of
>> crap, made mostly of wood. The Me 262 was decent, but the collapsing
>> Luftwaffe had a hard time keeping them in the air.
> 
> German jet engines lasted about ten hours before becoming scrap metal.

I vaguely remembered something about that. I did a Google search on "were jet 
engines for me 262 unreliable" and the Google AI Overview answer reads:

    Yes, the Junkers Jumo 004 engines powering the Me 262 were a significant
    source of unreliability during World War II. These early jet engines had a
    limited lifespan, typically requiring major overhauls after just 10-25 hours
    of operation. This unreliability, combined with shortages of strategic
    materials and fuel, hampered the Me 262's operational effectiveness.


> British jet engines lasted much longer, German industry could not build 
> replacement engines fast enough to keep jets in operation.

Sounds about right.

Interesting that even as late as the 1940s, British inventors were still ahead 
of the U.S.

> 

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#638972

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-27 13:13 -0700
Message-ID<103mu1m$bkg1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638966
J Carlson wrote:
> I vaguely remembered something about that. I did a Google search on
> "were jet engines for me 262 unreliable" and the Google AI Overview
> answer reads:

The problem is regions of jet engines are very hot and high pressures. 
The alloys in 1940s could not deal with.

>
>     Yes, the Junkers Jumo 004 engines powering the Me 262 were a
> significant
>     source of unreliability during World War II. These early jet engines
> had a
>     limited lifespan, typically requiring major overhauls after just
> 10-25 hours
>     of operation. This unreliability, combined with shortages of strategic
>     materials and fuel, hampered the Me 262's operational effectiveness.

German jet engines are what called axial flow where turbine and 
compressor blades were stressed beyond their limits.

>> British jet engines lasted much longer, German industry could not
>> build replacement engines fast enough to keep jets in operation.
>
> Sounds about right.

Britain used centrifugal flow which did not stress the metal as much.

> Interesting that even as late as the 1940s, British inventors were still
> ahead of the U.S.

In the late 1940s and 1950s stronger alloys were discoverred that made 
strong blades. Everyone went axial flow since the engines could run a 
long time. The stronger alloys were not known earlier and some of the 
metals were widely available to UK or Germany. UK engines worked with 
that while German engines tr


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#638990

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-28 18:32 +0200
Message-ID<mcajk2Foi9pU12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638966
Am Freitag000027, 27.06.2025 um 20:38 schrieb J Carlson:
> On 6/27/2025 10:16 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
>> OrigInfoJunkie wrote:
>>> On 6/26/2025 10:39 PM, Thomas Heger gelogen:

>>>>>> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold
>>>>>> them to the USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Selling of A-bombs' would be actually a relatively 'rational'
>>>>>> behavior,
>>>>>> since such a-bombs are precious, though movable, objects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (BTW, that's why I think, that Iran has already a-bombs.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Now tell us how Germany made the first jet fighter.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Gloster Meteor does ot count.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There existed a number of Jet-fighters in Germany at the end of WWII.
>>> There were *two* operational models of jet fighter in Germany at the end
>>> of WWII, the Me 262 and the Heinkel He 162. The latter was a piece of
>>> crap, made mostly of wood. The Me 262 was decent, but the collapsing
>>> Luftwaffe had a hard time keeping them in the air.
>>
>> German jet engines lasted about ten hours before becoming scrap metal.
> 
> I vaguely remembered something about that. I did a Google search on 
> "were jet engines for me 262 unreliable" and the Google AI Overview 
> answer reads:
> 
>     Yes, the Junkers Jumo 004 engines powering the Me 262 were a 
> significant
>     source of unreliability during World War II. These early jet engines 
> had a
>     limited lifespan, typically requiring major overhauls after just 
> 10-25 hours
>     of operation. This unreliability, combined with shortages of strategic
>     materials and fuel, hampered the Me 262's operational effectiveness.
> 
> 
>> British jet engines lasted much longer, German industry could not 
>> build replacement engines fast enough to keep jets in operation.
> 
> Sounds about right.
> 
> Interesting that even as late as the 1940s, British inventors were still 
> ahead of the U.S.
> 
This was changed significantly by 'operation paperclip'.

In this operation the US forces roamed through Germany and captured
every interesting scientist and brought them to the USA.

They also plundered thousands of patents.

TH

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#638991

FromLeighton Großer <elge@if.de>
Date2025-06-28 16:37 +0000
Message-ID<103p5nq$uruc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638990
Thomas Heger wrote:

>> Sounds about right.
>> 
>> Interesting that even as late as the 1940s, British inventors were
>> still ahead of the U.S.
>> 
> This was changed significantly by 'operation paperclip'.
> 
> In this operation the US forces roamed through Germany and captured
> every interesting scientist and brought them to the USA.
> 
> They also plundered thousands of patents.

thank you my friend. Finally someone awake. They also bombed you own 
taxpayer paid energy pipelines at the bottom of the sea. Then none of the 
your nomenclature is reacting ferociously. Which is absurd. Your state 
cooperating with the enemy and the terrorists.

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#638992

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-28 10:12 -0700
Message-ID<103p7qm$vn1p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638990
Thomas Heger wrote:
> This was changed significantly by 'operation paperclip'.
>
> In this operation the US forces roamed through Germany and captured
> every interesting scientist and brought them to the USA.

The first American jet engines (1942) were centrifugal flow based on the 
British engine which the UK shared. As hardier alloys were developed 
axial flow became the dominant.

Bugger off wehraboo.

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#639187

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-07-13 22:25 -0600
Message-ID<10520r3$37ren$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638941
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Dienstag000024, 24.06.2025 um 12:28 schrieb chine.bleu:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Well, possibly you were correct.
>>>
>>> But how could you possibly know?
>>>
>>> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold
>>> them to the USA.
>>>
>>> 'Selling of A-bombs' would be actually a relatively 'rational' behavior,
>>> since such a-bombs are precious, though movable, objects.
>>>
>>> (BTW, that's why I think, that Iran has already a-bombs.)
>>
>> Now tell us how Germany made the first jet fighter.
>>
>> The Gloster Meteor does ot count.
> 
> There existed a number of Jet-fighters in Germany at the end of WWII.
> 
> But I certainly cannot tell you, how they were made, because I wasn't 
> even born then.

Yes you can, you even provide a youtube link.

> But you may have a look at this
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwga3crerJc


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#639190

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-07-14 08:38 +0200
Message-ID<mdjmqjFmebmU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#639187
Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:25 schrieb Gronk:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Dienstag000024, 24.06.2025 um 12:28 schrieb chine.bleu:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Well, possibly you were correct.
>>>>
>>>> But how could you possibly know?
>>>>
>>>> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold
>>>> them to the USA.
>>>>
>>>> 'Selling of A-bombs' would be actually a relatively 'rational' 
>>>> behavior,
>>>> since such a-bombs are precious, though movable, objects.
>>>>
>>>> (BTW, that's why I think, that Iran has already a-bombs.)
>>>
>>> Now tell us how Germany made the first jet fighter.
>>>
>>> The Gloster Meteor does ot count.
>>
>> There existed a number of Jet-fighters in Germany at the end of WWII.
>>
>> But I certainly cannot tell you, how they were made, because I wasn't 
>> even born then.
> 
> Yes you can, you even provide a youtube link.

I'm a little insecure, what you try to say with that statement.

Certainly you don't want to tell me, that all YouTube videos contain the 
truth.


(That would be imho a really silly assumption.)


But a few videos on YouTube do contain something else than lies.

The problem is, that it is difficult to find out, which videos fall into 
that category.

TH>
>> But you may have a look at this
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwga3crerJc
> 
> 
> 

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#639377

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-07-27 23:35 -0600
Message-ID<106727d$21sop$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639190
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:25 schrieb Gronk:
>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Dienstag000024, 24.06.2025 um 12:28 schrieb chine.bleu:
>>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>> Well, possibly you were correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> But how could you possibly know?
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold
>>>>> them to the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Selling of A-bombs' would be actually a relatively 'rational' 
>>>>> behavior,
>>>>> since such a-bombs are precious, though movable, objects.
>>>>>
>>>>> (BTW, that's why I think, that Iran has already a-bombs.)
>>>>
>>>> Now tell us how Germany made the first jet fighter.
>>>>
>>>> The Gloster Meteor does ot count.
>>>
>>> There existed a number of Jet-fighters in Germany at the end of WWII.
>>>
>>> But I certainly cannot tell you, how they were made, because I wasn't 
>>> even born then.
>>
>> Yes you can, you even provide a youtube link.
> 
> I'm a little insecure, what you try to say with that statement.

It's the link YOU posted.

> Certainly you don't want to tell me, that all YouTube videos contain the 
> truth.

Why did you post the link?

> (That would be imho a really silly assumption.)
> 
> But a few videos on YouTube do contain something else than lies.
> 
> The problem is, that it is difficult to find out, which videos fall into 
> that category.

You wrote this:

>>> But you may have a look at this
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwga3crerJc

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#638927

FromOrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
Date2025-06-25 09:40 -0700
Message-ID<gEV6Q.40457$zOOb.3109@fx16.iad>
In reply to#638906
On 6/24/2025 3:14 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Samstag000021, 21.06.2025 um 18:19 schrieb OrigInfoJunkie:
>> On 6/21/2025 12:22 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>> Am Freitag000020, 20.06.2025 um 21:40 schrieb OrigInfoJunkie:
>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> The scholarly consensus is that it failed to
>>>>>>>>> achieve these goals, and that despite fears at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just scholarly 
>>>>>>>> consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes proved Germany had no 
>>>>>>>> functionning reactors, no enrichment, and no bombs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you fucking 
>>>>>> Lügner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased one or two 
>>>>> from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh. 
>>>>
>>>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an atomic 
>>>> bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
>>>
>>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have actually 
>>> built atomic bombs.
>>
>> They did not.
> 
> Well, possibly you were correct.

No, not merely "possibly" — I am correct. Nazi Germany never developed an atomic 
bomb.

> 
> But how could you possibly know?

We all know it, you stupid fucking Lügner.

> 
> Possibly the Nazis knew (at least) about atomic bombs, built and sold them to 
> the USA.

Fuck off, you stupid fucking Lügner.

I lived in Germany for 18 months 40 years ago, and I never met a German as 
stupid and as big a Lügner as you. You seem to be working at being stupid, but 
your being a Lügner just shows bad character. I think it's the only thing at 
which you've succeeded in your worthless Leben.

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#638929

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-25 09:47 -0700
Message-ID<103h97i$2ssov$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638927
OrigInfoJunkie wrote:
> I lived in Germany for 18 months 40 years ago, and I never met a German
> as stupid and as big a Lügner as you. You seem to be working at being
> stupid, but your being a Lügner just shows bad character. I think it's
> the only thing at which you've succeeded in your worthless Leben.

Wehraboos are joke on themselves.

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#638857

FromWilliam Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-21 16:31 -0400
Message-ID<10374ql$1949h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638850
> 
> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have 
> actually built atomic bombs.
> 
> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not 
> been born then.
> 
> So, well, yes, maybe...

There were only two ways to produce an atomic weapon in those days, via 
plutonium or U235.

To get enough plutonium for an atomic weapon required a reactor 
converting U238 to Plutonium by neutron absorption and repeated beta 
decay. Plutonium does not occur naturally except in trace amounts.

But Germany did not have a working reactor.  It was still trying to make 
one at the end of the war.  Even if you postulate a "secret" reactor, 
there was not enough heavy water for it to operate.

To make a uranium bomb it was necessary to separate enough U235 from 
U238 which would require a major industrial operation given the 
technology of the time.  It is doubtful that Germany would dedicate that 
much money and industrial capacity to build a weapon whose output was 
still doubtful (in an informal betting pool on the output of he first 
atomic bomb most scientists and engineers working on the project bet on 
a much lower yield than was achieved) when there was a desperate need 
for more conventional weapons of war.

There is no way that such a major operation could have been kept secret. 
  The Oak Ridge plant in the US where this was done had to be cleaned up 
by superfund money in the 2010s.  Any German site would be well known by 
now.


So Germany simply could not have made an atomic bomb before 1945.

And the idea that they nazis had one and did not use it is absurd.

William Hyde

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#639186

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-07-13 22:23 -0600
Message-ID<10520nj$37ren$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638850
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Freitag000020, 20.06.2025 um 21:40 schrieb OrigInfoJunkie:
>>>>>>> The scholarly consensus is that it failed to
>>>>>>> achieve these goals, and that despite fears at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just 
>>>>>> scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes proved 
>>>>>> Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and no bombs.
>>>>>>
>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.
>>>>
>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you 
>>>> fucking Lügner.
>>>
>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased one 
>>> or two from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh. 
>>
>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an 
>> atomic bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
> 
> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have 
> actually built atomic bombs.
> 
> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not 
> been born then.

That's what history and historians are for.

> So, well, yes, maybe...
> 
> ...possibly the Nazis had in fact no a-bombs.
> 
> (possibly they had...)
No. Not even close.

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#639189

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-07-14 08:35 +0200
Message-ID<mdjmj8FmebmU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#639186
Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:23 schrieb Gronk:

>>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just 
>>>>>>> scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes proved 
>>>>>>> Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and no bombs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you 
>>>>> fucking Lügner.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased one 
>>>> or two from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh. 
>>>
>>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an 
>>> atomic bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
>>
>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have 
>> actually built atomic bombs.
>>
>> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not 
>> been born then.
> 
> That's what history and historians are for.
> 

Historians are usually liers and were paid by Churchill, because 
Churchill said, that history was written by the victors (only).

So, British 'history' was actually propaganda (in WWII).

TH

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#639196

FromWilliam Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-14 16:58 -0400
Message-ID<1053r30$3k746$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639189
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:23 schrieb Gronk:
> 
>>>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just 
>>>>>>>> scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes 
>>>>>>>> proved Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and 
>>>>>>>> no bombs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you 
>>>>>> fucking Lügner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased one 
>>>>> or two from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh. 
>>>>
>>>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an 
>>>> atomic bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
>>>
>>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have 
>>> actually built atomic bombs.
>>>
>>> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not 
>>> been born then.
>>
>> That's what history and historians are for.
>>
> 
> Historians are usually liers and were paid by Churchill, because 
> Churchill said, that history was written by the victors (only).


The phrase "History is written by the victors" predates Churchill's 
birth by decades.

Churchill is quoted as saying it in a movie, which apparently is seen as 
a reliable source by some. To reject historians as a source and accept 
movies which are avowedly fictional is well into crackpot territory.

Indeed it was Goring who said:

“Der Sieger wird immer der Richter und der Besiegte stets der Angeklagte 
sein,”

Only after he lost, though.

Churchill did frequently joke that judgement should be left to history, 
"particularly as I intend to write that history myself", a reference to 
his extensive output as a writer.

But in the introduction of his volumes on the second world war, he 
points out that this work is more a sourcebook for history than history 
itself, as it is written by a participant not long after the events. 
New evidence, he says, will come out and historians will be writing 
about this for a long time.

No serious historian accepts Churchill's writings on WWII as the last word.
> 
> So, British 'history' was actually propaganda (in WWII).

There was naturally plenty of propaganda in the war. But the main 
history is now clear enough, even though there are many questions yet to 
be definitively answered.

William Hyde

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#639208

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-07-15 20:23 +0200
Message-ID<mdnkflFcaj1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#639196
Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 22:58 schrieb William Hyde:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:23 schrieb Gronk:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just 
>>>>>>>>> scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes 
>>>>>>>>> proved Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and 
>>>>>>>>> no bombs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for 
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you 
>>>>>>> fucking Lügner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased 
>>>>>> one or two from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an 
>>>>> atomic bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
>>>>
>>>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have 
>>>> actually built atomic bombs.
>>>>
>>>> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not 
>>>> been born then.
>>>
>>> That's what history and historians are for.
>>>
>>
>> Historians are usually liers and were paid by Churchill, because 
>> Churchill said, that history was written by the victors (only).
> 
> 
> The phrase "History is written by the victors" predates Churchill's 
> birth by decades.
> 
> Churchill is quoted as saying it in a movie, which apparently is seen as 
> a reliable source by some. To reject historians as a source and accept 
> movies which are avowedly fictional is well into crackpot territory.
> 
> Indeed it was Goring who said:
> 
> “Der Sieger wird immer der Richter und der Besiegte stets der Angeklagte 
> sein,”
> 
> Only after he lost, though.
> 
> Churchill did frequently joke that judgement should be left to history, 
> "particularly as I intend to write that history myself", a reference to 
> his extensive output as a writer.

Churchill was actually a world-class writer and wrote a novel about a 
massaker, in which he participated.

(the so called 'Battle of Omdurman')

The British conducted a number of warcrimes, like killing all the 
wounded enemies.

Churchill wrote 'The River war' about this and won actually a nobel 
price for his advanture novel.

Churchills next adventures brought him to South Africa, where he helped 
to run the worlds first concentration camps (together with war hero 
Kitchener again).

...


TH

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#639198

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-07-15 01:50 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB31CD32EC972F629555@69.80.102.13>
In reply to#639189
Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote in
news:mdjmj8FmebmU4@mid.individual.net: 

> Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:23 schrieb Gronk:
> 
>>>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just 
>>>>>>>> scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes
>>>>>>>> proved Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and
>>>>>>>> no bombs. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for
>>>>>>> them. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you 
>>>>>> fucking Lügner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased
>>>>> one or two from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh. 
>>>>
>>>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an 
>>>> atomic bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
>>>
>>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have 
>>> actually built atomic bombs.
>>>
>>> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not
>>> been born then.
>> 
>> That's what history and historians are for.
>> 
> 
> Historians are usually liers and were paid by Churchill, because 
> Churchill said, that history was written by the victors (only).
> 
> So, British 'history' was actually propaganda (in WWII).
> 
> TH
> 


    Churchill was so confident of reelection
in 1945 that he didn't bother campaigning, he 
never got over that rebuke. 



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#639260

FromKurtiss Dogadaev <osdidr@tkiae.ru>
Date2025-07-19 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<105h7pp$2vqv3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639198
J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Maciej Wo?niak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>> For kiddies -  Churchill's alternative were Balkans.
> 
> Yes, incredibly stupid. The real motivation was fear of a real invasion.
> The Balkans by themselves are bad enough for making real progress.
> Even supposing the Allies could have made some headway there it would
> have been practically impossible to cross the Alps.

you stupid polaks. I like cheap wine and cheap whisky. If not mistaken old 
time they made cheap whisky from shit.

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#639261

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-07-19 18:15 -0700
Message-ID<105hfv8$31751$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#639198
Governor Swill wrote:
>> You may want to have a look at
>> >Nigel Hamilton, Commander In Chief: FDR's Battle with Churchill, 1943
>> >(FDR at War Book 2)
>> >There is also a good review of it at Amazon.
> The entire lead up to the war was a mess of UK and European mistakes.

UK and France. Hitler marched into the Rhineland and violated 
Versailles. They did not need to wait for Poland to start war; that was 
sufficient cause. France actually marched in but got the sniffles and 
turned back. When Hitler got away with it, the German military accepted 
as their dictator.

> Churchill all but begged FDR for help.  As for delays, FDR was the

The USA's important contribution was as the 'arsenal of democracy', 
sending food and weapons to UK, USSR, China as Lend-Lease. And USN and 
USCG fought German U-boats up to about the mid-Atlantic.

> master of them, never committing American troops or resources until
> others had done the heavy lifting.  Stalin begged them to open a
> western front but FDR and Churchill both knew that getting in a rush
> would lead to failure.  They took their time, they prepared carefully
> and allowed Russia to take the brunt of Hitler's wrath and weaken his
> western front before attacking in France.

UK and US had broken various ciphers and knew about Barbarossa. They 
tried to warn Stalin again and again. Stalin kept his fantasy Germany 
would destroy UK and then USSR could march to La Manche. It was not 
until Germany was on the road to Leningrad that Stalin woke up. The 
losses of the USSR are solely his fault.

That he killed and imprisonned his best generals before the invasion did 
not help.

I acknowledge the pain and sufferring of the people, but on the 
political level it is all Stalin.

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#639272

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-21 01:27 -0400
Message-ID<gtjr7k5h1jfv9r936avsh6chna35lqlv7l@4ax.com>
In reply to#639261
On Sat, 19 Jul 2025 18:15:19 -0700, "chine.bleu" wrote:

>UK and US had broken various ciphers and knew about Barbarossa. They 
>tried to warn Stalin again and again. Stalin kept his fantasy Germany 
>would destroy UK and then USSR could march to La Manche. It was not 
>until Germany was on the road to Leningrad that Stalin woke up. The 
>losses of the USSR are solely his fault.
>
>That he killed and imprisonned his best generals before the invasion did 
>not help.
>
>I acknowledge the pain and sufferring of the people, but on the 
>political level it is all Stalin.

Quite correct.  Millions of Soviets died because Stalin as a fool.

-- 
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Not a single Republican voted for it.

Who are they protecting?

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