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Re: Relativism Killer

Started byTobe Schuhmacher <hmomb@chsut.de>
First post2025-07-13 14:13 +0000
Last post2025-07-14 08:22 +0200
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  Re: Relativism Killer Tobe Schuhmacher <hmomb@chsut.de> - 2025-07-13 14:13 +0000
    Re: Relativism Killer Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-07-13 15:21 +0000
      Re: Relativism Killer Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:03 +0000
        Re: Relativism Killer Richard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr> - 2025-07-13 16:33 +0000
          Re: Relativism Killer Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:22 +0200

#639163 — Re: Relativism Killer

FromTobe Schuhmacher <hmomb@chsut.de>
Date2025-07-13 14:13 +0000
SubjectRe: Relativism Killer
Message-ID<1050etv$2q28d$1@dont-email.me>
Richard Hachel wrote:

> Le 13/07/2025 à 14:02, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
>> Den 12.07.2025 20:25, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
> 
>> According to SR, the longitudinal Doppler shift is:
>>   D = √((1 − v/c)/(1 + v/c))
>> where v is the relative speed source-observer.
> 
> The word "longitudinal" is a bit misleading here.
> We should simply refer to the Doppler effect without specifying
> "longitudinal."
> Indeed, there is an additional internal Doppler effect in the equation.
> This internal Doppler effect is often replaced by the transverse Doppler
> effect, a term that is also very misleading.
> 
> R.H.

light not travels transverse, my friend. If scattered that's reflection 
still longitudinal.

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#639164

FromRichard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr>
Date2025-07-13 15:21 +0000
Message-ID<otKv1SuYIItx8HVWL76fsmsuqvM@jntp>
In reply to#639163
Le 13/07/2025 à 16:13, Tobe Schuhmacher a écrit :
> Richard Hachel wrote:
> 
>> Le 13/07/2025 à 14:02, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
>>> Den 12.07.2025 20:25, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
>> 
>>> According to SR, the longitudinal Doppler shift is:
>>>   D = √((1 − v/c)/(1 + v/c))
>>> where v is the relative speed source-observer.
>> 
>> The word "longitudinal" is a bit misleading here.
>> We should simply refer to the Doppler effect without specifying
>> "longitudinal."
>> Indeed, there is an additional internal Doppler effect in the equation.
>> This internal Doppler effect is often replaced by the transverse Doppler
>> effect, a term that is also very misleading.
>> 
>> R.H.
> 
> light not travels transverse, my friend. If scattered that's reflection 
> still longitudinal.

Absolutely.

Il y a un effet Doppler longitudinal. 

Mais avec un effet Doppler interne associé. 

Simplement cette notion "interne" semble incompréhensible pour 80° des 
relativistes.

R.H. 

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#639165

FromPython <jp@python.invalid>
Date2025-07-13 16:03 +0000
Message-ID<Fo9Us8PkkkdT-bSraOchV9lDKlU@jntp>
In reply to#639164
Le 13/07/2025 à 17:21, Richard Hachel  a écrit :
> ... pour 80° des relativistes.

80° Celsius ou Fahrenheit ?

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#639166

FromRichard Hachel <rh@tiscali.fr>
Date2025-07-13 16:33 +0000
Message-ID<Gln1C9Of1Y26UxHAsvZUPTt-62Q@jntp>
In reply to#639165
Le 13/07/2025 à 18:03, Python a écrit :
> Le 13/07/2025 à 17:21, Richard Hachel  a écrit :
>> ... pour 80° des relativistes.
> 
> 80° Celsius ou Fahrenheit ?

Kelvin, évidemment. 

Soyons universel.

R.H. 

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#639188

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-07-14 08:22 +0200
Message-ID<mdjlrgFmebmU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#639166
Am Sonntag000013, 13.07.2025 um 18:33 schrieb Richard Hachel:
> Le 13/07/2025 à 18:03, Python a écrit :
>> Le 13/07/2025 à 17:21, Richard Hachel  a écrit :
>>> ... pour 80° des relativistes.
>>
>> 80° Celsius ou Fahrenheit ?
> 
> Kelvin, évidemment.
> Soyons universel.
> 
Most likely % was actually meant, not degree.

TH

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