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"The Day The Earth Stood Still"

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
Last post2025-06-21 15:45 -0700
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  "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 21:27 -0700
      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 08:58 -0700
        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 22:46 -0700
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 16:57 -0700
        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-20 08:21 +0200
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Harlie Kabanov <le@lknel.ru> - 2025-05-20 12:09 +0000
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 17:07 -0700
            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 22:27 -0700
            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 23:56 -0600
              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-26 08:03 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-26 10:47 -0700
                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-27 09:07 +0200
                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-27 21:37 -0400
                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-28 08:02 +0200
                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 17:11 -0400
                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Laron Todorovsky <ad@olao.ru> - 2025-05-29 07:15 +0000
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:51 +0200
                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:41 +0200
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Coy Shahbanov <acboonso@voo.ru> - 2025-05-31 15:15 +0000
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-31 17:28 -0400
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-01 09:39 +0200
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Lloyal Balagurov <lag@auryluvya.ru> - 2025-06-01 08:48 +0000
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 17:57 -0400
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 18:49 +0200
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 18:49 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-03 09:11 +0200
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:41 -0400
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:55 +0200
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 06:17 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:45 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:05 +0200
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 01:02 -0400
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 00:55 -0400
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-01 00:26 -0700
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 17:43 +0200
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 00:03 -0600
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 01:28 -0400
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 23:44 -0600
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-09 07:04 +0200
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-08 23:49 -0700
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 06:56 -0400
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-10 18:23 -0700
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-11 08:01 +0200
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-13 10:14 -0700
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-14 09:03 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 01:23 -0700
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 10:08 +0200
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 09:03 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 12:58 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:38 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:56 +0200
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:55 -0400
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 10:02 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:13 -0700
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:41 -0600
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:07 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:17 +0200
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:00 -0700
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:07 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:40 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:22 +0200
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:50 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:09 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:41 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 10:20 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 11:27 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 08:04 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 09:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:28 +0200
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-21 09:19 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-24 10:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 07:39 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:04 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-27 09:18 -0700
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 10:16 -0700
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 11:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 13:13 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:32 +0200
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Leighton Großer <elge@if.de> - 2025-06-28 16:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-28 10:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:25 -0600
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:38 +0200
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:35 -0600
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:40 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 09:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 16:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:23 -0600
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:35 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-07-14 16:58 -0400
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-15 20:23 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-15 01:50 +0000
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Kurtiss Dogadaev <osdidr@tkiae.ru> - 2025-07-19 22:55 +0000
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-19 18:15 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 01:27 -0400
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 09:02 -0700
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 19:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 23:06 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:21 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 11:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 13:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 14:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 16:31 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:41 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:38 -0600
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-23 22:03 +0200
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 14:04 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Reiniel Ślązak <le@eewl.pl> - 2025-07-23 22:14 +0000
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-23 15:37 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 15:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-24 13:00 +0200
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:51 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Joe Baiburski <ek@uruik.ru> - 2025-07-24 21:01 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:15 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Blaine Baidakov <aad@aannaoii.ru> - 2025-07-25 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:45 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 11:57 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:47 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 11:58 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:48 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:35 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:42 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:46 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 21:17 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:26 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-27 13:39 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:57 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 14:33 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:04 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-28 00:05 +0100
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:01 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-27 13:00 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-27 17:33 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 11:06 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 11:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:38 +0200
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:43 -0400
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:34 -0600
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-28 01:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 23:47 -0600
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:43 +0200
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-14 04:01 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:09 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:11 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-20 15:13 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:41 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:11 -0400
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Emmet Dubatolov <ev@mo.ru> - 2025-07-25 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 14:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-27 10:22 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:37 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 13:53 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-30 22:56 -0500
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:49 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:58 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:09 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 14:09 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 15:08 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 12:39 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 17:37 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:36 +0200
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 10:08 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-15 17:52 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alph Dmitrovsky <mtvsvo@tsklns.ru> - 2025-06-15 18:30 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:44 -0400
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:17 -0600
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 11:25 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 16:32 -0400
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 17:59 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:46 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:04 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:00 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-18 06:56 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Bob Tulakov <vtbktv@akkbo.ru> - 2025-06-18 17:50 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:44 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 23:02 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 20:05 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:40 -0400
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-15 18:44 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 09:46 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 16:58 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-17 00:58 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:23 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:06 -0400
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 15:41 -0400
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-18 13:58 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 06:12 -0400
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-19 07:12 -0400
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 12:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 14:47 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 14:53 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:07 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 09:18 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:36 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:58 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:23 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:26 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Franz Makhrov <vrrf@nfvrzr.ru> - 2025-06-20 14:39 +0000
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:13 +0200
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:49 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:38 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Brent Baidukov <uv@rtkr.ru> - 2025-06-20 14:53 +0000
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:02 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 13:09 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 15:15 -0700
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Craig <x@y.com> - 2025-06-18 18:25 +0000
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:54 -0400
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 19:57 -0700
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:13 -0700
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:49 -0400
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 09:53 +0200
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-15 14:45 +0300
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:27 +0200
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-17 16:25 +0300
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:28 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Michele Balabuha <ehlae@hue.ru> - 2025-06-18 10:17 +0000
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:33 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-19 12:55 +0300
                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 23:10 -0600
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:13 -0600
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:40 -0700
      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:45 -0700

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#638641

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-08 23:49 -0700
Message-ID<102605q$dam5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638638
On 8/6/25 22:04, Thomas Heger wrote:
> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant
> for most speakers of English as a second language:
>
> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
>
> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special
> cases.

It appears all languages are equally complex among thew 
phonology, lexicon, syntax, and morphology. Possibly excepting 
the first few generation of a creole.

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#638651

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-10 06:56 -0400
Message-ID<qt2g4khooft1n9cbmh214r0j9eojlo6j0i@4ax.com>
In reply to#638638
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:04:30 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:
>> Governor Swill wrote:> On Sat, 31 May 2025 08:41:43 +0200, Thomas Heger 
<snip>
>>  > Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
>>  > Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
>>  > Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
>>  > Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine. There are a few common
>>  > second languages today.  English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
>>  > and lately Chinese.
>
>German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.
>
>
>Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>
>Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>
>The language itself has also disadvantages.
>
>This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to 
>call 'manuals'.
>
>These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence 
>the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.

English is quite common in Asia.  In photos of cities English signs
can often be seen and not all are 'brand names'.

>English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most 
>speakers of English as a second language:
>
>English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
>
>English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.

This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
with fine wine and called it pork.

The "i before e except after c" rule (which doesn't work anyway) is
due to this mixing of Teutonic and Latin based words.

Btw, it was nearly half a millenium before English became the language
of royals, nobles and government in England.

>German has also disadvantages, as it doesn't sound good and has a 
>complicated grammar.

Otoh, it's very flexible.  Compound words are common in German and
make it easier to express certain concepts.

>Japanese is way too difficult to learn and also based on writing in symbols.
>
>
>Italian and French sound nice, but that's almost all they are better 
>for. Especially writing is difficult in French.
>
>
>Spanish is actually ok in most aspects and relatively easy to learn.
>
>But the best alternative is 'simplified standard English', which has few 
>special rules and much less words (compared to what the British 
>upperclass speaks).

The importance of language cannot be understated.  From the British
Empire moving forward to the US, English became the accepted language
of virtually all international activity.  Air traffic control is
conducted in English, for example.

The French were rather put out by this brazen displacement of French
as THE international language and make a concerted effort to prevent
English words from entering ther language is it has entered so many
others.
-- 
Wildlife officials in Tennessee found a 500 pound black bear living on
a university campus, a black beard that, let's face it, took the spot
of more deserving white and Asian bears.

8647!

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#638654

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-10 18:23 -0700
Message-ID<102alq7$1jj1h$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638651
On 10/6/25 3:56, Governor Swill wrote:
> This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
> branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
> especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
> French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
> For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
> with fine wine and called it pork.
>

Modern English spelling is mostly Old English words with Old 
French spelling which ignores a Middle English vowel shift.

Latin and Greek borrowings retain their original spelling 
contrary to English spelling.

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#638656

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-11 08:01 +0200
Message-ID<maska5Ftss3U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638651
Am Dienstag000010, 10.06.2025 um 12:56 schrieb Governor Swill:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:04:30 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:
>>> Governor Swill wrote:> On Sat, 31 May 2025 08:41:43 +0200, Thomas Heger
> <snip>
>>>   > Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
>>>   > Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
>>>   > Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
>>>   > Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine. There are a few common
>>>   > second languages today.  English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
>>>   > and lately Chinese.
>>
>> German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.
>>
>>
>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>
>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>
>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>
>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
>> call 'manuals'.
>>
>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
> 
> English is quite common in Asia.  In photos of cities English signs
> can often be seen and not all are 'brand names'.

Sure.

But that 'English' isn't the language of the British Islands.


The problem is, that the iternal logic of Chinese makes Chinese speakers 
almost certainly bad speakers of English.

This is why many 'English manuals' of products from China are more funny 
than useful.

> 
>> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most
>> speakers of English as a second language:
>>
>> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
>>
>> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.
> 
> This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
> branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
> especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
> French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
> For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
> with fine wine and called it pork.


English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the 
English language.

Keltic languages
Latin
Danish
French
German
Dutch
Hindi
Kisuaheli
...

TH

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#638686

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-06-13 10:14 -0700
Message-ID<684C5C86.4950@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#638656
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Dienstag000010, 10.06.2025 um 12:56 schrieb Governor Swill:
> > On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:04:30 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >> Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:
> >>> Governor Swill wrote:> On Sat, 31 May 2025 08:41:43 +0200, Thomas Heger
> > <snip>
> >>>   > Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
> >>>   > Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
> >>>   > Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
> >>>   > Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine. There are a few common
> >>>   > second languages today.  English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
> >>>   > and lately Chinese.
> >>
> >> German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.
> >>
> >>
> >> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
> >>
> >> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
> >>
> >> The language itself has also disadvantages.
> >>
> >> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
> >> call 'manuals'.
> >>
> >> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
> >> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
> >
> > English is quite common in Asia.  In photos of cities English signs
> > can often be seen and not all are 'brand names'.
> 
> Sure.
> 
> But that 'English' isn't the language of the British Islands.
> 
> The problem is, that the iternal logic of Chinese makes Chinese speakers
> almost certainly bad speakers of English.
> 
> This is why many 'English manuals' of products from China are more funny
> than useful.
> 
> >
> >> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most
> >> speakers of English as a second language:
> >>
> >> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
> >>
> >> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.
> >
> > This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
> > branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
> > especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
> > French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
> > For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
> > with fine wine and called it pork.
> 
> English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the
> English language.
> 
> Keltic languages
> Latin
> Danish
> French
> German
> Dutch
> Hindi
> Kisuaheli
> ...
> 
> TH

That is whay Daniel Webster invented the "Webster Dictionary"...to get
rid of
all these foreign influences.

In Mexicao they say "tele"
In Britian they say "tele"...

in the United States we say...Television!


TELEVISION!!!!

Learn English!


It is the Official Language of The United States.


Buy a Webster Dictionary today...


Math is a language very little people know..

anyone here speak penquin?


Did you know dinosaurs didn't...roar? they tweet.



tweet, tweet, twwet.














-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#638694

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-14 09:03 +0200
Message-ID<mb4l1qFbgviU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638686
Am Freitag000013, 13.06.2025 um 19:14 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Dienstag000010, 10.06.2025 um 12:56 schrieb Governor Swill:
>>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:04:30 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:
>>>>> Governor Swill wrote:> On Sat, 31 May 2025 08:41:43 +0200, Thomas Heger
>>> <snip>
>>>>>    > Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
>>>>>    > Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
>>>>>    > Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
>>>>>    > Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine. There are a few common
>>>>>    > second languages today.  English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
>>>>>    > and lately Chinese.
>>>>
>>>> German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>>>
>>>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>>>
>>>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>>>
>>>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
>>>> call 'manuals'.
>>>>
>>>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
>>>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
>>>
>>> English is quite common in Asia.  In photos of cities English signs
>>> can often be seen and not all are 'brand names'.
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> But that 'English' isn't the language of the British Islands.
>>
>> The problem is, that the iternal logic of Chinese makes Chinese speakers
>> almost certainly bad speakers of English.
>>
>> This is why many 'English manuals' of products from China are more funny
>> than useful.
>>
>>>
>>>> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most
>>>> speakers of English as a second language:
>>>>
>>>> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
>>>>
>>>> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.
>>>
>>> This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
>>> branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
>>> especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
>>> French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
>>> For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
>>> with fine wine and called it pork.
>>
>> English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the
>> English language.
>>
>> Keltic languages
>> Latin
>> Danish
>> French
>> German
>> Dutch
>> Hindi
>> Kisuaheli
>> ...
>>
>> TH
> 
> That is whay Daniel Webster invented the "Webster Dictionary"...to get
> rid of
> all these foreign influences.
> 
> In Mexicao they say "tele"
> In Britian they say "tele"...
> 
> in the United States we say...Television!
> 
> 
> TELEVISION!!!!
> 
> Learn English!

I can speak, read and write English quite well, even if that isn't perfect.

But English is a second language for me. (My native language is German.)

> It is the Official Language of The United States.
> 
> 
> Buy a Webster Dictionary today...
> 
> 
> Math is a language very little people know..

Math is not really a language, unless you are a computer. But I know 
same math, anyhow.

> 
> anyone here speak penquin?
> 
> 
> Did you know dinosaurs didn't...roar? they tweet.
> 

Sure.
Dinosaurs are acually not gone. Today they are called 'birds'.

The dinosaurs are seemingling an extict class of animals, because they 
were so big.

But dinosaurs were only big in comparison to us today, while at their 
time in the past they had simply usual size (for dinosaurs), because 
gravity was so low at that time (hence everything was much bigger).

Also plants and insects were extremely huge and beetles, for instance, 
could have been larger than a horse today.


TH

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#638695

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-06-14 01:23 -0700
Message-ID<684D319E.51BE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#638694
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Freitag000013, 13.06.2025 um 19:14 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Dienstag000010, 10.06.2025 um 12:56 schrieb Governor Swill:
> >>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:04:30 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>>> Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:
> >>>>> Governor Swill wrote:> On Sat, 31 May 2025 08:41:43 +0200, Thomas Heger
> >>> <snip>
> >>>>>    > Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
> >>>>>    > Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
> >>>>>    > Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
> >>>>>    > Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine. There are a few common
> >>>>>    > second languages today.  English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
> >>>>>    > and lately Chinese.
> >>>>
> >>>> German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
> >>>>
> >>>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
> >>>>
> >>>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
> >>>>
> >>>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
> >>>> call 'manuals'.
> >>>>
> >>>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
> >>>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
> >>>
> >>> English is quite common in Asia.  In photos of cities English signs
> >>> can often be seen and not all are 'brand names'.
> >>
> >> Sure.
> >>
> >> But that 'English' isn't the language of the British Islands.
> >>
> >> The problem is, that the iternal logic of Chinese makes Chinese speakers
> >> almost certainly bad speakers of English.
> >>
> >> This is why many 'English manuals' of products from China are more funny
> >> than useful.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most
> >>>> speakers of English as a second language:
> >>>>
> >>>> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
> >>>>
> >>>> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.
> >>>
> >>> This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
> >>> branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
> >>> especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
> >>> French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
> >>> For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
> >>> with fine wine and called it pork.
> >>
> >> English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the
> >> English language.
> >>
> >> Keltic languages
> >> Latin
> >> Danish
> >> French
> >> German
> >> Dutch
> >> Hindi
> >> Kisuaheli
> >> ...
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> > That is whay Daniel Webster invented the "Webster Dictionary"...to get
> > rid of
> > all these foreign influences.
> >
> > In Mexicao they say "tele"
> > In Britian they say "tele"...
> >
> > in the United States we say...Television!
> >
> >
> > TELEVISION!!!!
> >
> > Learn English!
> 
> I can speak, read and write English quite well, even if that isn't perfect.
> 
> But English is a second language for me. (My native language is German.)


You're German? Can you explain to me why Israel today  doesn't want
Germany to posses nucluer weapons????

i don't see Germany today commiting genocide or bothering their
neighbors...



 
-- 
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#638720

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-15 10:08 +0200
Message-ID<mb7d7aFphl9U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638695
Am Samstag000014, 14.06.2025 um 10:23 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Freitag000013, 13.06.2025 um 19:14 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag000010, 10.06.2025 um 12:56 schrieb Governor Swill:
>>>>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:04:30 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>> Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:
>>>>>>> Governor Swill wrote:> On Sat, 31 May 2025 08:41:43 +0200, Thomas Heger
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>     > Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
>>>>>>>     > Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
>>>>>>>     > Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
>>>>>>>     > Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine. There are a few common
>>>>>>>     > second languages today.  English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
>>>>>>>     > and lately Chinese.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
>>>>>> call 'manuals'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
>>>>>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> English is quite common in Asia.  In photos of cities English signs
>>>>> can often be seen and not all are 'brand names'.
>>>>
>>>> Sure.
>>>>
>>>> But that 'English' isn't the language of the British Islands.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is, that the iternal logic of Chinese makes Chinese speakers
>>>> almost certainly bad speakers of English.
>>>>
>>>> This is why many 'English manuals' of products from China are more funny
>>>> than useful.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most
>>>>>> speakers of English as a second language:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is largely because English comes from the same Indo European
>>>>> branch as German but is heavily modified by the Romance languagues,
>>>>> especially French.   Owing to the Conquest, a huge number of Old
>>>>> French words entered common usage in England, often delineating class.
>>>>> For example, Britons ate pigs, but the French conquerors served it
>>>>> with fine wine and called it pork.
>>>>
>>>> English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the
>>>> English language.
>>>>
>>>> Keltic languages
>>>> Latin
>>>> Danish
>>>> French
>>>> German
>>>> Dutch
>>>> Hindi
>>>> Kisuaheli
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>> That is whay Daniel Webster invented the "Webster Dictionary"...to get
>>> rid of
>>> all these foreign influences.
>>>
>>> In Mexicao they say "tele"
>>> In Britian they say "tele"...
>>>
>>> in the United States we say...Television!
>>>
>>>
>>> TELEVISION!!!!
>>>
>>> Learn English!
>>
>> I can speak, read and write English quite well, even if that isn't perfect.
>>
>> But English is a second language for me. (My native language is German.)
> 
> 
> You're German? Can you explain to me why Israel today  doesn't want
> Germany to posses nucluer weapons????

Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
(what they told you in school was more or less a lie)

But Germans don't like atomic bombs, because they are difficult to use 
and extremely expensive.

Actually atomic bombs cannot be used properly and if the enemy has them, 
too, they are practically useless.

But Germans could most likely build them, supposed they wanted to.

> 
> i don't see Germany today commiting genocide or bothering their
> neighbors...

Well, Germans had a share of such attrocities and have actually enough 
of that.

TH

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#638728

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-15 09:03 -0400
Message-ID<83ht4k9jftvugqbvnjjf934kllkfg80voe@4ax.com>
In reply to#638720
On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:

>Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.

If they had been, Hitler would have used them.

>(what they told you in school was more or less a lie)

The reality was that Germany was following a different path to the
same goal but it didn't work out.  For one reason, the Norwegian
resistance managed to destroy their supply of heavy water.

-- 
"Dictatorship for Dummies"
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QAHzbfiRoE0>

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#638738

FromOrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
Date2025-06-15 12:58 -0700
Message-ID<SBF3Q.1662115$%pKb.484039@fx14.iad>
In reply to#638728
On 6/15/2025 6:03 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
> 
> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.

They didn't have an atomic bomb. The program was stopped in 1942, according to 
Albert Speer.

> 
>> (what they told you in school was more or less a lie)
> 
> The reality was that Germany was following a different path to the
> same goal but it didn't work out.  For one reason, the Norwegian
> resistance managed to destroy their supply of heavy water.
> 

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#638746

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-16 03:38 -0400
Message-ID<hthv4k5b3b8c2leecatbfnam8cfbkot37t@4ax.com>
In reply to#638738
On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:58:42 -0700, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
wrote:

>On 6/15/2025 6:03 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> 
>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>> 
>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>
>They didn't have an atomic bomb. 

They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
they could get one built.

>The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.

Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?

The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.

"Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>

"Heavy Water War - The story"
<https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>

"Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
<https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from-building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>

But you believe Albert Speer.

ALBERT SPEER!!

<laughs and points>

-- 
"Dictatorship for Dummies"
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QAHzbfiRoE0>

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#638777

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-18 09:56 +0200
Message-ID<mbf9l9F4kotU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638746
Am Montag000016, 16.06.2025 um 09:38 schrieb Governor Swill:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:58:42 -0700, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/15/2025 6:03 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>
>>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>>
>> They didn't have an atomic bomb.
> 
> They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
> they could get one built.
> 
>> The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.
> 
> Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?
> 
> The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
> Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.
> 
> "Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>
> 
> "Heavy Water War - The story"
> <https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>
> 
> "Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from-building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>
> 

If the Nazis needed heavy water, they apparently wanted to build a 
hydrogen bomb!

To that demand would fit, that Einstein and Szillard patented a device 
in Berlin in 1930, which is apparently used in fast breeding reactors.

TH

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#638794

FromOrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
Date2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
Message-ID<_QB4Q.1264691$6%s6.830260@fx12.iad>
In reply to#638777
On 6/18/2025 12:56 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Montag000016, 16.06.2025 um 09:38 schrieb Governor Swill:
>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:58:42 -0700, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/15/2025 6:03 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>>
>>>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>>>
>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb.
>>
>> They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
>> they could get one built.
>>
>>> The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.
>>
>> Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?
>>
>> The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
>> Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.
>>
>> "Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>
>>
>> "Heavy Water War - The story"
>> <https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>
>>
>> "Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from- 
>> building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>
>>
> 
> If the Nazis needed heavy water, they apparently wanted to build a hydrogen bomb!

No. Heavy water was critical to the German atomic bomb project.

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#638796

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-18 12:55 -0400
Message-ID<7rr55k9m7kmchfm77gne7mosmetbk6fnu6@4ax.com>
In reply to#638794
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:30:49 -0700, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
wrote:

>On 6/18/2025 12:56 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Montag000016, 16.06.2025 um 09:38 schrieb Governor Swill:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:58:42 -0700, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/15/2025 6:03 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>>>>
>>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb.
>>>
>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
>>> they could get one built.
>>>
>>>> The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.
>>>
>>> Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?
>>>
>>> The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
>>> Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.
>>>
>>> "Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>
>>>
>>> "Heavy Water War - The story"
>>> <https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>
>>>
>>> "Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
>>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from- 
>>> building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>
>>>
>> 
>> If the Nazis needed heavy water, they apparently wanted to build a hydrogen bomb!
>
>No. Heavy water was critical to the German atomic bomb project.

Don't bother.  Heger is too busy being wrong to be teachable.

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#638814

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-19 10:02 +0200
Message-ID<mbhubcFimq7U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638796
Am Mittwoch000018, 18.06.2025 um 18:55 schrieb Governor Swill:

>>>>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>>>>>
>>>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb.
>>>>
>>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
>>>> they could get one built.
>>>>
>>>>> The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.
>>>>
>>>> Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?
>>>>
>>>> The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
>>>> Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.
>>>>
>>>> "Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>
>>>>
>>>> "Heavy Water War - The story"
>>>> <https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>
>>>>
>>>> "Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
>>>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from-
>>>> building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the Nazis needed heavy water, they apparently wanted to build a hydrogen bomb!
>>
>> No. Heavy water was critical to the German atomic bomb project.
> 
> Don't bother.  Heger is too busy being wrong to be teachable.

What would you do with heavy water in Uranium bombs?

And what use would you have for a fast breading reactor, if you don't 
want to create Plutonium?

But supposed Plutonium was actually created at that time, then also 
heavy water for a hydrogen bomb would make some sense.


TH

> 

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#638816

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-19 01:13 -0700
Message-ID<1030grv$3p35f$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638814
On 19/6/25 1:02, Thomas Heger wrote:
> What would you do with heavy water in Uranium bombs?

You do not. Germany wanted it as a nuclear reactor moderator.

> And what use would you have for a fast breading reactor, if you
> don't want to create Plutonium?

You need a reactor to even discover Plutonium.

> But supposed Plutonium was actually created at that time, then
> also heavy water for a hydrogen bomb would make some sense.

No heavy water in a fusion weapon. Tritium is needed but not 
bound to hydrogen.

-- 
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                    /|\
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#638821

FromOrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
Date2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
Message-ID<xoW4Q.7$ymad.2@fx01.iad>
In reply to#638814
On 6/19/2025 1:02 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Mittwoch000018, 18.06.2025 um 18:55 schrieb Governor Swill:
> 
>>>>>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb.
>>>>>
>>>>> They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
>>>>> they could get one built.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
>>>>> Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Heavy Water War - The story"
>>>>> <https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
>>>>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from-
>>>>> building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/ 
>>>>> cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the Nazis needed heavy water, they apparently wanted to build a hydrogen 
>>>> bomb!
>>>
>>> No. Heavy water was critical to the German atomic bomb project.
>>
>> Don't bother.  Heger is too busy being wrong to be teachable.
> 
> What would you do with heavy water in Uranium bombs?

The German scheme for an atomic bomb used heavy water for "moderation" to 
achieve critical mass from a smaller amount of unenriched uranium.

Stop running your mouth about stuff you know nothing about.

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#638810

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-18 22:41 -0600
Message-ID<10304ed$3m9bl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638746
Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 12:58:42 -0700, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
>> On 6/15/2025 6:03 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:08:17 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>
>>> If they had been, Hitler would have used them.
>>
>> They didn't have an atomic bomb.
> 
> They didn't have an atomic bomb because Germany surrendered before
> they could get one built.
> 
>> The program was stopped in 1942, according to Albert Speer.
> 
> Then what were the Nazis were doing with heavy water in 1944?
> 
> The Norwegian ferry Hydro was sunk in Lake Tinnsjå (also known as Lake
> Tinn) on February 20, 1944, by Norwegian resistance fighters.
> 
> "Norwegian heavy water sabotage"
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage>
> 
> "Heavy Water War - The story"
> <https://www.visitnorway.com/listings/heavy-water-war-the-story/1474/>
> 
> "Hitler's nuclear bomb dream was sunk on ferry"
> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/hitler-was-just-a-ferry-ride-away-from-building-his-nucelar-bomb-tv-show-reveals/cf96285a-9900-4b35-9b62-05c9e4f417f3>
> 
> But you believe Albert Speer.
> 
> ALBERT SPEER!!
> 
> <laughs and points>

There's a fair amount of historical hype about the German
program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_program_during_World_War_II

"Developments took place in several phases,
but in the words of historian Mark Walker, it
ultimately became "frozen at the laboratory
level" with the "modest goal" to "build a
nuclear reactor which could sustain a nuclear
fission chain reaction for a significant amount
of time and to achieve the complete separation
of at least tiny amounts of the uranium isotopes".
The scholarly consensus is that it failed to
achieve these goals, and that despite fears at
the time, the Germans had never been close to
producing nuclear weapons."

Puffing and fluffing it up makes good copy.

Somewheres I got a book on the Japanese program
(couple boxes in the back room most likely). They
were even further away.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2003/03/07/national/japans-a-bomb-goal-still-long-way-off-in-45/


https://www.nytimes.com/1978/01/07/archives/new-jersey-pages-japanese-data-show-tokyo-tried-to-make-world-war.html
archived at
https://archive.is/VlJ0f
Japanese Data Show Tokyo Tried To Make World War II A‐Bomb

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#638815

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-06-19 01:07 -0700
Message-ID<1030gfg$3p0ap$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638810
On 18/6/25 21:41, Gronk wrote:
> "Developments took place in several phases,
> but in the words of historian Mark Walker, it
> ultimately became "frozen at the laboratory
> level" with the "modest goal" to "build a
> nuclear reactor which could sustain a nuclear
> fission chain reaction for a significant amount

Nuclear reactors need a device to slow down neutrons so that the 
chain reaction is sustains at a low power. Weapons do not slow 
down neutrons. They sustain the reaction at a high power that 
cannot be contained.

One way to slow down neutrons is let them bounce off heavy water 
molecules. Another is bounce off carbon atoms in graphite. In 
1943 graphite was contaminated with boron which removed neutrons 
altogether. So Germans decided to use heavy water which they 
became fixated on. They never could get enough so they never had 
any reactor or self-sustaining chain reaction. Fermi and 
Americans realised they could clean boron out of graphite. Fermi 
got the first reactor running in 1943. They built more reactors; 
they discoverred a new element in the reactor ash which led to 
breeder reactors and Plutonium as a fissile metal along with 
U235. Plutonium could be refined with chemistry.

> of time and to achieve the complete separation
> of at least tiny amounts of the uranium isotopes".

All Uranium isotopes have the same chemistry so it requires very 
expensive methods depending on slightly different nucleus 
weights. It requires a lot of electricity, space, and machinery. 
Only the USA could afford this whilst fighting a war.

> The scholarly consensus is that it failed to
> achieve these goals, and that despite fears at

Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just 
scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes proved 
Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and no bombs.

> the time, the Germans had never been close to
> producing nuclear weapons."

Bohr had a conversation which he interpretted as Germany was 
active on a Uranium bomb. Germany had enough technological and 
scientific talent, it was possible they might be working on it. 
US and UK had no certain knowledge.

> Puffing and fluffing it up makes good copy.
>
> Somewheres I got a book on the Japanese program
> (couple boxes in the back room most likely). They
> were even further away.

The USSR was also working on it. By 1944 any country with a 
physics department knew it was a possibility and a rough idea how 
to do a Little Boy weapon (slamming two junks of Uranium together).

What crippled everyone but the US was the industrial oomph needed 
while fighting a war. Also a Fatman weapon could not be imagined 
until a reactor was working and creating Plutonium.

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#638829

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-20 09:17 +0200
Message-ID<mbkg3kF1spcU12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638815
Am Donnerstag000019, 19.06.2025 um 10:07 schrieb Siri Cruz:
> On 18/6/25 21:41, Gronk wrote:
>> "Developments took place in several phases,
>> but in the words of historian Mark Walker, it
>> ultimately became "frozen at the laboratory
>> level" with the "modest goal" to "build a
>> nuclear reactor which could sustain a nuclear
>> fission chain reaction for a significant amount
> 
> Nuclear reactors need a device to slow down neutrons so that the chain 
> reaction is sustains at a low power. Weapons do not slow down neutrons. 
> They sustain the reaction at a high power that cannot be contained.
> 
> One way to slow down neutrons is let them bounce off heavy water 
> molecules. Another is bounce off carbon atoms in graphite. In 1943 
> graphite was contaminated with boron which removed neutrons altogether. 
> So Germans decided to use heavy water which they became fixated on. They 
> never could get enough so they never had any reactor or self-sustaining 
> chain reaction. Fermi and Americans realised they could clean boron out 
> of graphite. Fermi got the first reactor running in 1943. They built 
> more reactors; they discoverred a new element in the reactor ash which 
> led to breeder reactors and Plutonium as a fissile metal along with 
> U235. Plutonium could be refined with chemistry.
> 
>> of time and to achieve the complete separation
>> of at least tiny amounts of the uranium isotopes".
> 
> All Uranium isotopes have the same chemistry so it requires very 
> expensive methods depending on slightly different nucleus weights. It 
> requires a lot of electricity, space, and machinery. Only the USA could 
> afford this whilst fighting a war.
> 
>> The scholarly consensus is that it failed to
>> achieve these goals, and that despite fears at
> 
> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just scholarly 
> consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes proved Germany had no 
> functionning reactors, no enrichment, and no bombs.
> 

sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.

But what about *before* the Americans came to Ohrdruf?

How could we possibly know, whether the Germans had functioning bombs 
there, before the US-troups arrived there?

We know, on the other hand, the US-troops HAD atomic bombs, after they 
have left Ohrdruf (and Thuringia).

The US-troops made a very unusual move at the end of WWII and rushed far 
to the east, confiscasted everything and moved back, before the Soviets 
arrived in Thuringia.

I know this with certainty from a former GI, who was a 'black' musician 
from Luisiana and was left behind in Leipzig, Saxonia, in 1945 after the 
US-troops went back west again.

That guy lived his life in the former GDR and must have been a really 
strange 'black' guy, hardly speaking German after the end of GDR and 
beeing actually an US-citizen.


...

TH

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