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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2026-05-30 10:35 -0700 |
| Last post | 2026-06-03 09:52 -0700 |
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ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-05-30 10:35 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 10:36 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 10:37 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-05-30 14:38 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 12:55 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 00:22 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 15:02 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 15:04 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2026-06-03 08:11 -0500
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 07:57 -0700
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:04 -0500
Re: ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 09:52 -0700
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 10:35 -0700 |
| Subject | ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed |
| Message-ID | <6A1B1FE0.1114@ix.netcom.com> |
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ 2 + 2 = 22 Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill??? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 10:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10vf77e$10hrr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645313 |
On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ > > > 2 + 2 = 22 define + as contamination... ;^) A + B = AB > > > Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill??? > > > >
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 10:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10vf78v$10hrr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645314 |
On 5/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 >> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year- >> old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ >> >> >> 2 + 2 = 22 > > define + as contamination... ;^) God damn typos!: define + as concatenation... Sorry for that non-sense... > > A + B = AB > > > >> >> >> Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill??? >> >> >> >> >
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| From | "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-30 14:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10vfld8$14mq2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645314 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 >> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ >> >> >> >> 2 + 2 = 22 > > define + as contamination... ;^) > > A + B = AB * for counterfeiting. 3*C = CCC -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #777-000. Disavowed. Denied. @ NO KINGS For I desire mercy not sacrifice. /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 5.5 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-05-31 12:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10vi3nl$1p2m6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645316 |
On 5/30/2026 2:38 PM, chine.bleu wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 >>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year- >>> old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ >>> >>> >>> >>> 2 + 2 = 22 >> >> define + as contamination... ;^) >> >> A + B = AB > > * for counterfeiting. > > 3*C = CCC > ;^D Actually, this is getting close to an L-System.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 00:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <arGcnRJyIurgS4L3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #645314 |
On 05/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 >> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year-old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ >> >> >> >> 2 + 2 = 22 > > define + as contamination... ;^) > > A + B = AB > > > >> >> >> Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill??? >> >> >> >> > Another example of stupidity not doing a thorough and diligent search for counterexamples and thusly mistaking a distinctness result with its conditions that they don't know for a uniqueness result and directly into inductive failure then to cheat and lie the "certification" since "mathematics proves it", when they never resolved a mathematical paradox nor developed a super-classical result, thusly: garbage in: garbage out.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 15:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10vq8a0$i5k$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645336 |
On 6/3/2026 12:22 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 05/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai-c4029e84 >>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80-year- >>> old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ >>> >>> >>> >>> 2 + 2 = 22 >> >> define + as contamination... ;^) >> >> A + B = AB >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill??? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > Another example of stupidity not doing a thorough and diligent > search for counterexamples and thusly mistaking a distinctness > result with its conditions that they don't know for a uniqueness > result and directly into inductive failure then to cheat and lie > the "certification" since "mathematics proves it", when they > never resolved a mathematical paradox nor developed a super-classical > result, thusly: garbage in: garbage out. > > > Tell that to an L-system. It uses operators like this all the time. A+B=AB for its symbols during fractal iteration.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 15:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10vq8e3$i5k$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645349 |
On 6/3/2026 3:02 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 6/3/2026 12:22 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 05/30/2026 10:36 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 5/30/2026 10:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-math-solves-erdos-problem-openai- >>>> c4029e84 >>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-just-solved-an-80- >>>> year- old-erdos-problem-and-mathematicians-are-amazed/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2 + 2 = 22 >>> >>> define + as contamination... ;^) >>> >>> A + B = AB >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anybody got change for a $250.00 bill??? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> Another example of stupidity not doing a thorough and diligent >> search for counterexamples and thusly mistaking a distinctness >> result with its conditions that they don't know for a uniqueness >> result and directly into inductive failure then to cheat and lie >> the "certification" since "mathematics proves it", when they >> never resolved a mathematical paradox nor developed a super-classical >> result, thusly: garbage in: garbage out. >> >> >> > > Tell that to an L-system. It uses operators like this all the time. > A+B=AB for its symbols during fractal iteration. Or rewriting... A = AB B = BA So AB becomes: ABBA then: ABBABAAB See?
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| From | super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 08:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10vp95c$2cg5v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645313 |
Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of the Cyborgs. At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem now.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 07:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <PrWdnaXn_6kv3b33nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #645338 |
On 06/03/2026 06:11 AM, super70s wrote: > Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of > the Cyborgs. > > At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem now. > No, that's ignorant, Erdos is well known for proving many conjectures both ways, about facts of infinitary reasoning. For example, there are accounts in convergence and emergence, about whether, for example, there's a point at infinity or not and it's a prime and infinity or not, there are models of integers and how they're built where there is, and models of integers and how they're built where it isn't. This is called "Erdos' Giant Monsters of Independence", that it's _independent_ usual accounts of convergence and the infinitary where that's so and where that's not so. "Ramsey theory" then for example makes for matters of the exponential where base 2 and base 3 are _different_, where, for example, accounts of asymptotics and Big O think they are always the _same_, it's ignorant. Poincare for example has a bunch of these. So, when seeing these sorts of recent accounts like "newbie proves induction: claims to eliminate half the math department", these are considered a bit pre-mature, to be generous, and just feeding Erdos' "Giant Monster", not building the infinitary "Great Atlas", of Mathematical Independence. It's like proving all numbers are rational, which for some Pythagoreans is a perfect finitary world, and others, lost at sea.
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| From | super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 11:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10vpja0$2cs3a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #645341 |
On 2026-06-03 14:57:07 +0000, Ross Finlayson said: > On 06/03/2026 06:11 AM, super70s wrote: >> Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of >> the Cyborgs. >> >> At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem now. >> > > No, that's ignorant, Erdos is well known for proving many conjectures > both ways, about facts of infinitary reasoning. Thank you professor, obviously no one should joke around you. > For example, there > are accounts in convergence and emergence, about whether, for example, > there's a point at infinity or not and it's a prime and infinity or not, > there are models of integers and how they're built where there is, > and models of integers and how they're built where it isn't. > > This is called "Erdos' Giant Monsters of Independence", that it's > _independent_ usual accounts of convergence and the infinitary where > that's so and where that's not so. > > "Ramsey theory" then for example makes for matters of the exponential > where base 2 and base 3 are _different_, where, for example, accounts > of asymptotics and Big O think they are always the _same_, it's ignorant. > > Poincare for example has a bunch of these. > > So, when seeing these sorts of recent accounts like > "newbie proves induction: claims to eliminate half the math department", > these are considered a bit pre-mature, to be > generous, and just feeding Erdos' "Giant Monster", not building > the infinitary "Great Atlas", of Mathematical Independence. > > > It's like proving all numbers are rational, which for some > Pythagoreans is a perfect finitary world, and others, lost at sea.
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| From | Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-03 09:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <P-ScnRjj0Y9Bxr33nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #645343 |
On 06/03/2026 09:04 AM, super70s wrote: > On 2026-06-03 14:57:07 +0000, Ross Finlayson said: > >> On 06/03/2026 06:11 AM, super70s wrote: >>> Soon to be a major motion picture: Good Will Hunting - The Revenge of >>> the Cyborgs. >>> >>> At least we can lay off all those people working on the erdos problem >>> now. >>> >> >> No, that's ignorant, Erdos is well known for proving many conjectures >> both ways, about facts of infinitary reasoning. > > Thank you professor, obviously no one should joke around you. > >> For example, there >> are accounts in convergence and emergence, about whether, for example, >> there's a point at infinity or not and it's a prime and infinity or not, >> there are models of integers and how they're built where there is, >> and models of integers and how they're built where it isn't. >> >> This is called "Erdos' Giant Monsters of Independence", that it's >> _independent_ usual accounts of convergence and the infinitary where >> that's so and where that's not so. >> >> "Ramsey theory" then for example makes for matters of the exponential >> where base 2 and base 3 are _different_, where, for example, accounts >> of asymptotics and Big O think they are always the _same_, it's ignorant. >> >> Poincare for example has a bunch of these. >> >> So, when seeing these sorts of recent accounts like >> "newbie proves induction: claims to eliminate half the math department", >> these are considered a bit pre-mature, to be >> generous, and just feeding Erdos' "Giant Monster", not building >> the infinitary "Great Atlas", of Mathematical Independence. >> >> >> It's like proving all numbers are rational, which for some >> Pythagoreans is a perfect finitary world, and others, lost at sea. > > "This is sci.math: humor is irrelevant." It's not a joke, dope. Jokes are funny for at least two reasons: a) they're true, b) they're not true.
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