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| From | Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.math |
| Subject | Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets |
| Date | 2024-03-25 07:25 -0400 |
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On 3/25/24 7:10 AM, WM wrote:
> Le 24/03/2024 à 22:02, Dieter Heidorn a écrit :
>> WM schrieb:
>>>
>>> Does ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...} contain all natural numbers such that none
>>> can be added?
>>>
>> Sure
>
> Of course.
>>
>> But you can do the following described by Cantor:
>
> Irrelevant. Important is only this: You cannot add a natural number to
> the set ℕ.
>>
>>> If so, then the bijection of ℕ with E = {2, 4, 6, ...} would prove
>>> that both sets have the same number of elements.
>>
>> Infinite sets don't have a "number of elements".
>
> This cannot be denied: A bijection, if really existing, proves that one
> of both sets has not one element more nor less than the other!
Nope, just that they have the "same size", since for infinite sets, one
more or less is still the "same size", even twice the number of elements
can be the "same size", or the square of the number of elements is the
"same size"
That is just a property of infinite sets,
>>
>> And indeed: there is a bijection from the set of natural numbers ℕ
>> to the set of even natural numbers 𝔼 = {2, 4, 6, ..}.
>>
>> f: ℕ → 𝔼 , n ↦ 2n
>>
>> This function is both injective (or one-to-one) and surjective (or
>> onto), thus it is bijective.
>
> If so, that would result in: The set 𝔼 has not one element more nor less
> than the set ℕ.
Nope, you are just AGAIN using the wrong definition of "same size"
because of your mind being stuck in "finite thinking".
>>
>>> Then the completion of 𝔼 resulting in E = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ...}
>>> would double the number of its elements. Then there are more natural
>>> numbers than were originally in ℕ.
>>
>> Rubbish. The cardinality of an infinite set is described by an
>> transfinite cardinal number and not by a finite "number of elements".
>
> Here we do not use the rubbish of cardinality but the definition of
> bijection proving that one of both sets has not one element more or less
> than the other!
Nope, it proves thay have the "same size". "Number of Elements" is not a
defined term for infinite sets, in the same way it is defined for finite
sets.
You are just stuck in your finite thinking.
>
>> Your problem is: You try to apply facts,
>
> I apply logic which is universally valid.
Nope, you think it is, so you break it.
>
> If the set 𝔼 = {2, 4, 6, ..} has not one element more or less than the
> set ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...}, then adding an element to 𝔼 destroys this state.
Nope.
>
>> that hold for finite sets,
>> on infinite sets. That doesn't work.
>
> Your problem is you deny logic which is universally valid.
Nope, your problem is you THINK your logic is universally valid, which
makes it go BOOM and destroys itself.
>
> Regards, WM
>
>
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V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-24 20:00 +0000
Re: V "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-24 13:11 -0700
Re: V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-24 20:13 +0000
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Re: V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-24 20:20 +0000
Re: V "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-24 14:33 -0700
Re: V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 11:23 +0000
Re: V "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-25 20:40 -0700
Re: V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-26 13:11 +0000
Re: V "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 12:56 -0700
Re: V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-27 13:50 +0000
Re: V "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 13:49 -0700
Re: V WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-28 19:53 +0000
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Re: V "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-24 14:37 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-24 20:11 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2024-03-24 22:02 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 11:10 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-25 07:25 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 21:45 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-25 15:38 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 22:01 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 22:11 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-25 20:04 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-25 21:43 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-26 11:40 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-27 13:38 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-27 14:54 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-28 20:07 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 13:33 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-29 09:29 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-30 16:01 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-30 13:47 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-31 12:15 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-31 14:18 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-01 15:37 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-01 13:30 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-01 19:03 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-02 07:36 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-02 13:51 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-02 22:52 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-02 17:40 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 15:06 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-02 19:25 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 20:52 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-03 09:13 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-03 19:13 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-04 15:01 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-04 20:28 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-05 14:04 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-05 19:37 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-06 09:31 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-06 08:42 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-03 01:14 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-03 13:32 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-03 11:59 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-03 19:43 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-03 20:06 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-05 08:48 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-04 09:33 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-04 08:19 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-04 13:07 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-04 09:22 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-05 08:56 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-05 07:32 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-05 19:30 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-04 15:40 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-05 08:57 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-06 13:26 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-06 09:40 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-06 13:55 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-06 09:58 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-06 19:40 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-06 16:03 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-07 08:32 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-07 07:16 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-07 13:23 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-11 12:07 +0000
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-10 18:16 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-03 19:48 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-04 09:43 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-04 13:03 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-05 09:06 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-05 15:03 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-06 13:44 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-06 13:49 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-06 19:49 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-07 17:47 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-08 13:55 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-08 21:54 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-09 04:48 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-09 23:46 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-09 12:22 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-09 14:47 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-09 15:03 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-09 17:15 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-09 18:44 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-09 15:49 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-09 15:04 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-09 16:27 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-10 17:57 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-10 16:13 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-10 17:39 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-11 11:16 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-09 18:42 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-09 15:59 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-10 05:37 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-10 11:47 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-09 15:47 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-31 13:20 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-27 20:52 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-26 13:24 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-26 13:04 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-27 13:46 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-27 15:10 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-27 13:57 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-27 18:50 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-26 21:19 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-27 13:57 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-27 20:57 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-28 20:00 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-29 09:31 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-24 17:09 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 11:15 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-25 07:29 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 21:49 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-24 17:10 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 11:20 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-25 14:31 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-25 21:53 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-25 18:49 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-26 13:18 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-26 09:39 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-26 13:47 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-26 14:04 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2024-03-26 23:12 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-26 17:40 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-26 19:43 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2024-03-27 13:35 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-27 13:48 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-27 11:23 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-27 21:50 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-27 19:37 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-28 19:55 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-28 18:11 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-29 13:05 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-30 16:05 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-30 13:48 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-27 20:59 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-28 19:57 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-03-29 13:07 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-28 17:25 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-28 21:40 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-28 18:30 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 17:54 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 18:00 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-29 05:46 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-29 15:53 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-29 15:13 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-29 15:52 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-30 00:29 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-29 16:31 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-30 09:56 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-30 16:17 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-30 15:04 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-31 12:20 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-31 15:19 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-31 08:10 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-31 17:31 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-03-31 14:10 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-31 17:38 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-31 13:38 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-31 15:37 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-03-31 15:43 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-01 15:34 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-01 20:11 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-01 20:14 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-01 14:34 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-02 07:32 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-02 11:35 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-03 13:29 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-04-03 17:07 -0400
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-30 16:09 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-03-31 19:14 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-31 13:22 -0700
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-01 15:30 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-01 20:26 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-01 22:41 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-29 15:09 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-29 17:31 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-03-31 19:17 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-31 19:37 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-31 19:44 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-03-30 16:24 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-03-30 17:37 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-03-31 03:57 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-05 22:07 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-06 13:47 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-03-30 23:53 +0100
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-01 15:04 +0000
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-01 20:37 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-01 20:47 +0200
Re: Contradiction of bijections as a measure for infinite sets Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-01 20:52 +0200
Re: V FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-24 17:03 -0400
Re: V Dieter Heidorn <d.heidorn@t-online.de> - 2024-03-24 22:09 +0100
Re: V FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-24 17:18 -0400
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