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Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy

Date 2026-05-20 12:38 -0600
Subject Re: Federal Prisons Are Beginning to Force Trans Inmates Off Hormone Therapy
Newsgroups sci.math, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, comp.os.linux.advocacy, or.politics, talk.politics.guns
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From zendejo <zd@no.here>
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On 5/20/26 7:57 AM, phoenix wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Rod Flanders <rflander@next.door> wrote in
>> news:3kiq0lhq817v1cn4ehlo7bfij43ebpcrdq@4ax.com:
>>
>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-05-19 1:19 a.m., Rod Flanders wrote:
>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> zendejo <zd@no.here> wrote in
>>>>>> news:6a0a2f91$0$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/26 12:38 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>> zendejo <zd@no.here> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:6a0a009f$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/26 8:30 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> zendejo <zd@no.here> wrote in news:6a08aa88$0$22
>>>>>>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/15/26 8:08 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special entitlements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herd mentality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tribalism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>          Those are right wing bot terms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Says a left wing homo bot denying God's grace.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        Walk thru a pediatric cancer ward
>>>>>>>>>> and tell me more about "God's grace"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Observe the remission and cured rate and tell us it does so
>>>>>>>>> without God's grace?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       You miss the point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You snipped the point:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GooGoo AI Overview
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       If you need AI to make your
>>>>>> point it cannot be much of a point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Physician and author Dr. Larry Dossey championed the integration
>>>>>>> of spirituality and medicine, arguing that compassionate,
>>>>>>> non-local prayer can positively influence cancer and other
>>>>>>> illnesses. He advocated that prayer is not a substitute for
>>>>>>> orthodox medical treatment, but a powerful, evidence-supported
>>>>>>> complement to it.Dr. Dossey's core perspectives on cancer and
>>>>>>> prayer include:Scientific Basis: In his book Healing Words,
>>>>>>> Dossey reviewed over a hundred controlled studies. He claimed
>>>>>>> that some experiments showed positive impacts of intentional
>>>>>>> prayer on cancer cells, tumors in mice, and human leukemic white
>>>>>>> blood cells.The "How-To" of Prayer: Dossey differentiated between
>>>>>>> "petitionary" prayer (asking for a specific, rigid outcome, like
>>>>>>> the shrinking of a tumor) and "open-ended" prayer (aligning with
>>>>>>> a higher will, such as "may thy will be done"). He argued the
>>>>>>> latter is more effective because it minimizes the anxiety
>>>>>>> that a prayer might "fail".Compassion Over Quantity: He believed
>>>>>>> that the efficacy of prayer does not rely on the number of people
>>>>>>> praying or the specific words used, but rather the intensity,
>>>>>>> genuineness, and unconditional love behind the
>>>>>>> intention.Rejection of "Blame": Dossey actively warned against
>>>>>>> the harmful idea that a cancer diagnosis is the patient’s fault
>>>>>>> for not thinking "positively" enough or having spiritual
>>>>>>> shortcomings. He noted this approach causes unnecessary guilt and
>>>>>>> does not align with true healing."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       If God doesn't want children
>>>>>>>> to have cancer why do they?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God's will can be difficult to parse for mere humans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       If you cannot explain "God's will"
>>>>>> just say so, we will understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Easy to explain-God always get's His way, whatever happens was
>>>>> God's Will.
>>>>>
>>>>> God's Will is undefeated. If you pray 'Thy will be done' its
>>>>> always 100% successfull.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't lose whhen God is on your side.
>>>>
>>>> I'll say this much: I don't pray often, but when I have, my prayers
>>>> were answered. I tend not to ignore the lessons God tries to teach me
>>>> by ignoring his signs. I did as a teenager, but no longer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hallelujah. Christians like you are saving this nation.
>>>
>>
>>      From what?
> 
> I'm not certain, but sometimes I see rock singers crooning about, 
> "Useless prayer." If they are so scientific and unbiased like they 
> claim, how do they prove this negative?

Point.

> First of all, it's wrong.
> 
> Second, maybe they were doing Hegseth style praying and asking God to 
> punish their enemies horrifically.

That is scripturally sound imprecatory prayer however:


"Imprecatory Prayer for Protection and Justice

Use this model to ask God to intervene against those who wish you 
harm:"Heavenly Father, You are my shield and my fortress. I bring my 
enemies before You, not for my own revenge, but for Your righteous 
justice. Contend, Lord, with those who contend with me, and fight 
against those who fight against my peace. Uproot their wicked schemes, 
let them be caught in their own pride, and silence the accusations 
against me. Deliver me from the violent and let Your light overcome 
their darkness. In Your mercy, bring truth to light, and let me triumph 
in Your salvation. Amen."Slaying and Defeating Enemies in ScriptureThe 
Bible contains several passages where defenders call upon the Lord to 
strike or defeat their adversaries:Psalm 35:1-2: "Contend, Lord, with 
those who contend with me; fight against those who fight against me. 
Take up shield and armor; arise and come to my aid".Psalm 18:38-39: "I 
will smite them through, so that they shall not be able to rise: They 
shall fall under my feet. For You have girded me with strength unto the 
battle: You have subdued under me those that rose up against me".Psalm 
139:19: "Oh that You would slay the wicked, O God! O men of blood, 
depart from me!"


> Third, How many times do you have to pray to show that something never 
> works? It's known as the mathematical infinity. Follow-ups to sci.math.

If the science chosen to pray from is inherently flawed, how or why 
would God respond to such requests?

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