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| From | Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.math |
| Subject | Re: Ordinals |
| Date | 2024-03-01 15:56 -0500 |
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On 3/1/2024 3:08 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> So I remember Jim Burns when he posited a more
> general approach, he said transfinite induction
> must be satisfied.
In a phrase I'm a little proud of, I said
transfinite.induction is well.order in drag.
One is a simple re-write of the other.
> Otherwise we can take this Quine atom x = {x},
> https://math.stackexchange.com/a/2874533
>
> And by a suitable interpretation of the circular
> h-trans definition, a definition that is not well-defined
> since it has no unique interpretation,
>
> we might judge this Quine atom an ordinal.
>
> LoL
Ah.
But an ordinal is
a _regular_ transitive set of transitive sets.
So, not x = {x}
A regular non.empty set A holds
a disjoint element B.
∃B ∈ A: A∩B = ∅
But, if A is transitive.transitive,
each element is a subset, and
∀B ∈ A: A∩B = B
Transitive.transitive A can only be regular
if one of its elements is 0
∅ ∈ A ∧ ∅ ∈ A′ ties all the ordinals together.
It's a beautiful thing.
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