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Re: Why is model theory needed?

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Date 2023-07-02 14:37 -0700
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Subject Re: Why is model theory needed?
From Jeffrey Rubard <theleasthappyfella@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:39:33 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:20:58 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:46:54 PM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 2:33:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 2:31:35 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 1:31:40 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 1:30:52 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:07:15 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:00:05 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:31:45 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:34:51 PM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I doubt you will write Shakespeare once via your nonsense: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "More Republican brain-rot. Just go to your neurologist and keep your hands off strangers, okay?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, if we're touching, we're not strangers anymore. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > "You mean you criminally pursued someone, then 'feigned' you were friends?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > You mean reach out and punch someone? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Not based on 'blood libels', no. It's traditional advice, really." 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Me thinks thouest stinks. 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Do you think the Boston Marathon bomber looked like that guy in the news 'SBF', too?" 
> > > > > > > > > > It seems a waste of ink - 
> > > > > > > > > > in the sands of time it will sink. 
> > > > > > > > > > I don't know your kink - 
> > > > > > > > > > it just seems a fink. 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Now whether Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare 
> > > > > > > > > > or it was sometimes Francis Bacon, 
> > > > > > > > > > most anything one need hear, 
> > > > > > > > > > it was Roger that was making. 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Maybe stay in your depth, dude." 
> > > > > > > > For the Audience: With respect to Shakespeare, "...or maybe it was Roger Bacon" conventionally "indicates" they are lying about 
> > > > > > > > publication details. 
> > > > > > > No, the point is that Roger Bacon and Francis Bacon are two different 
> > > > > > > people, and that Roger had a lot already going on, and that sometimes 
> > > > > > > the authorship of Shakespeare's works is questioned, about Francis. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's "famously" tantamount to an acknowledgment you're engaging in "publishing libel". 
> > > > > > Your stupider-than-average version of it doesn't "improve the looking", either. 
> > > > > Meanwhile: Yeah, people, I still "wrote all the words I wrote". 
> > > > > "So? Why should we believe you?" 
> > > > > Because my photograph is on the book as the "author's photograph"? 
> > > > > "Hmm. Plausible, actually. But don't quote me on that." 
> > > > > The Scammers: "NOOOOOOOO!" 
> > > > > The Knowledgeable: "Yeah, that's what that is. But you know what? You wouldn't want to live like him, etc." 
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baconian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship 
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question 
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, doesn't mention libel, or slander, maybe you should add it to the Wiki. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So, it's not so unbelievable that Francis Bacon and William Shakespeare, 
> > > > shared a printer, where Shakespeare was a well-known rude carouser, 
> > > > and Bacon one of the most reknowned heads, of the time. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "Much of the learning with which he has been credited 
> > > > and the omnivorous reading imputed to Shakespeare 
> > > > by critics in later years is exaggerated, and he may well 
> > > > have absorbed much learning from conversations." 
> > "Actually smart", so of course you don't know that. (Like in 80s movies, people.) 
> > It was once thought an actually plausible hypothesis that Francis Bacon had written 
> > the works of Shakespeare, based on the high esteem Bacon's natural philosophy 
> > was held in. But... and this is a very interesting point... Bacon was indeed a 
> > Viscount, and the language of Shakespeare is really -- no, it is -- plebeian, as 
> > this passage suggests. (So no, he wasn't Edward de Vere either.) 
> > 
> > Otherwise, "About Shakespeare..." telegraphs your IP fraud goals IRL. 
> > Maybe 'change the approach' next time. 
> > > Yeah, reading this Cohen's book on Victorian mathematics, it has long sections 
> > > on Boole and De Morgan and their surrounds, for example De Morgan's anticipation 
> > > of word frequency analysis, in terms of authors and their apocryphal output. 
> > Any mention of the similar works of "Joseph Carroll"?
> They were kind of set against Comte, .... 
> 

Oh, the "select tid-bit".
It's no "super-secret" than when you are musing in your stupid fashion about Shakespeare,
you are trying to screw an author out of recognition. It's "conventional wisdom" of the issue.

> 
> There's talk about Spinoza, but just like Roger was way before Francis, 
> Bacon, there was old Spinoza and his integer continuum, hundreds 
> of years different.

Baruch Spinoza did not write the works of Shakespeare.
(Gosh, that sounds a little anti-Semitic, sorry.)

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