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Re: Why is model theory needed?

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Date 2023-07-02 11:39 -0700
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Subject Re: Why is model theory needed?
From Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>

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On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:20:58 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 10:42:53 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:46:54 PM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 2:33:14 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 2:31:35 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 1:31:40 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 1:30:52 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:37:43 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:07:15 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 9:00:05 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:31:45 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:34:51 PM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But I doubt you will write Shakespeare once via your nonsense: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > "More Republican brain-rot. Just go to your neurologist and keep your hands off strangers, okay?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > Hey, if we're touching, we're not strangers anymore. 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "You mean you criminally pursued someone, then 'feigned' you were friends?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > You mean reach out and punch someone? 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Not based on 'blood libels', no. It's traditional advice, really." 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Me thinks thouest stinks. 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > "Do you think the Boston Marathon bomber looked like that guy in the news 'SBF', too?" 
> > > > > > > > > It seems a waste of ink - 
> > > > > > > > > in the sands of time it will sink. 
> > > > > > > > > I don't know your kink - 
> > > > > > > > > it just seems a fink. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Now whether Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare 
> > > > > > > > > or it was sometimes Francis Bacon, 
> > > > > > > > > most anything one need hear, 
> > > > > > > > > it was Roger that was making. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "Maybe stay in your depth, dude." 
> > > > > > > For the Audience: With respect to Shakespeare, "...or maybe it was Roger Bacon" conventionally "indicates" they are lying about 
> > > > > > > publication details. 
> > > > > > No, the point is that Roger Bacon and Francis Bacon are two different 
> > > > > > people, and that Roger had a lot already going on, and that sometimes 
> > > > > > the authorship of Shakespeare's works is questioned, about Francis. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > It's "famously" tantamount to an acknowledgment you're engaging in "publishing libel". 
> > > > > Your stupider-than-average version of it doesn't "improve the looking", either. 
> > > > Meanwhile: Yeah, people, I still "wrote all the words I wrote". 
> > > > "So? Why should we believe you?" 
> > > > Because my photograph is on the book as the "author's photograph"? 
> > > > "Hmm. Plausible, actually. But don't quote me on that." 
> > > > The Scammers: "NOOOOOOOO!" 
> > > > The Knowledgeable: "Yeah, that's what that is. But you know what? You wouldn't want to live like him, etc." 
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baconian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship 
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question 
> > > 
> > > Hmm, doesn't mention libel, or slander, maybe you should add it to the Wiki. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So, it's not so unbelievable that Francis Bacon and William Shakespeare, 
> > > shared a printer, where Shakespeare was a well-known rude carouser, 
> > > and Bacon one of the most reknowned heads, of the time. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Much of the learning with which he has been credited 
> > > and the omnivorous reading imputed to Shakespeare 
> > > by critics in later years is exaggerated, and he may well 
> > > have absorbed much learning from conversations."
> "Actually smart", so of course you don't know that. (Like in 80s movies, people.) 
> It was once thought an actually plausible hypothesis that Francis Bacon had written 
> the works of Shakespeare, based on the high esteem Bacon's natural philosophy 
> was held in. But... and this is a very interesting point... Bacon was indeed a 
> Viscount, and the language of Shakespeare is really -- no, it is -- plebeian, as 
> this passage suggests. (So no, he wasn't Edward de Vere either.) 
> 
> Otherwise, "About Shakespeare..." telegraphs your IP fraud goals IRL. 
> Maybe 'change the approach' next time.
> > Yeah, reading this Cohen's book on Victorian mathematics, it has long sections 
> > on Boole and De Morgan and their surrounds, for example De Morgan's anticipation 
> > of word frequency analysis, in terms of authors and their apocryphal output.
> Any mention of the similar works of "Joseph Carroll"?


They were kind of set against Comte, ....


Like some sort of "Church of Brotherhood and Filial Piety".


There's talk about Spinoza, but just like Roger was way before Francis, 
Bacon, there was old Spinoza and his integer continuum, hundreds 
of years different.

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