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| Started by | "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> |
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| First post | 2023-05-27 02:52 +0100 |
| Last post | 2023-07-25 10:08 +0200 |
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Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-05-27 02:52 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-27 11:52 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 12:02 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 01:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-07-23 11:07 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-23 17:08 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 23:29 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 04:18 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 12:34 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 08:10 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 16:39 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 09:38 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-05-27 19:10 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-28 10:28 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:30 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 02:20 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2023-05-27 21:23 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2023-05-27 20:28 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-28 10:10 +1000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:31 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-27 15:50 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-27 20:42 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 13:42 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 03:59 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:32 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-28 11:55 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-28 10:00 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-28 19:36 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 04:20 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:40 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-25 07:04 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-07-25 13:40 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 17:41 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-25 09:29 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-08-11 14:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-08-11 14:57 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-08-11 20:56 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-08-11 22:51 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 19:42 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 22:32 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2023-05-28 17:17 -0400
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-28 21:33 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 02:51 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:41 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-25 07:02 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-25 09:25 -0700
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 19:14 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-07-27 08:33 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 19:32 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 22:34 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-25 06:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-27 21:24 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:43 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-28 10:03 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-05-28 21:20 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 08:09 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 02:15 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 13:34 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 06:27 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 17:11 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:48 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:47 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 11:01 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 21:45 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling and Trolling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 00:18 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 08:58 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 03:59 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 14:40 +1000
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads, again! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:01 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:37 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 10:34 +1000
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads and Bigmouths at Loggerheads, again! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:05 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 08:42 +0100
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads, again! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:04 +0200
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:01 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:57 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:39 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 10:42 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:08 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:07 +0200
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads, again! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:00 +0200
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:45 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:44 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 12:04 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 04:11 +1000
Re: UNBELIEVABLE: It's 04:11 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:19 +0200
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:42 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 21:19 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 23:31 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 08:46 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 02:25 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 13:44 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 06:16 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 17:06 +1000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 17:33 +1000
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:57 +0200
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:56 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 10:39 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 22:05 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 00:20 +0200
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:52 +0200
Re: TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:51 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 12:16 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-29 07:11 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 04:19 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:20 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 05:17 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 15:55 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:04 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:12 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 09:23 +1000
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads and Bigmouths at Loggerheads, again! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:11 +0200
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads and Bigmouths at Loggerheads, again! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:10 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:03 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 11:15 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-30 07:39 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:20 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:13 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:16 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:58 +0200
Re: TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads having at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:49 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-27 15:59 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 13:38 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 21:39 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 23:59 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:41 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 21:36 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 23:45 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 11:54 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 07:09 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 15:13 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-29 15:30 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-29 20:33 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-30 00:40 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 04:46 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:07 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-29 22:07 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 08:27 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 05:05 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:21 +0200
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:59 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-29 20:36 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:39 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:06 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:37 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:09 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:42 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-30 08:02 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:01 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-31 02:00 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 08:39 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:08 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-31 14:48 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 19:08 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 17:41 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-06-01 06:11 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 22:53 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-01 21:11 -0700
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:16 +0200
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-05-29 14:57 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-29 16:38 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 05:10 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:21 +0200
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:59 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:50 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:11 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:43 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 22:52 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:19 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 08:50 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 05:13 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:22 +0200
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:00 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:56 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:37 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2023-05-29 17:34 -0400
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 04:30 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:10 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:54 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 03:27 +1000
Re: UNBELIEVABLE: It's 03:27 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 20:08 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 17:33 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 14:25 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:11 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 04:38 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:13 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-29 22:26 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:44 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-29 21:03 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 17:37 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 04:19 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:14 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 09:04 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 11:27 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:33 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:21 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Slevin <slevin@192.168.1.1> - 2023-05-31 10:15 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 12:16 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Slevin <slevin@192.168.1.1> - 2023-05-31 12:48 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:10 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 11:24 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 07:21 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 15:46 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 09:00 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 17:23 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 09:39 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 17:43 +0100
Re: The NATURAL IDIOT Alert, again! LOL Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 20:13 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 14:33 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:14 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 09:02 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 04:01 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:15 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> - 2023-06-03 11:28 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-03 03:51 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-06-03 05:47 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-06-03 14:14 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 14:19 +0100
Re: v for frequency? SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> - 2023-06-04 00:02 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-04 08:24 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-04 05:30 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 14:18 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-06-03 15:03 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 15:10 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-03 08:56 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> - 2023-06-03 16:54 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-06-03 17:57 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-03 10:20 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-03 10:15 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-04 08:22 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-03 08:44 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-06-04 01:49 +1000
Re: UNBELIEVABLE: It's 01:49 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 19:01 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-06-04 01:37 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 19:02 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:30 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:14 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-29 21:10 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 05:03 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:18 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 03:05 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 23:27 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:23 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:49 +0100
Re: v for frequency? charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2023-05-30 11:30 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 19:19 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:18 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 08:34 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:19 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-27 16:00 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2023-05-27 12:35 -0400
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 18:39 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 21:42 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 00:01 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 02:11 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 21:33 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 00:04 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:45 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 21:03 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 23:32 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 11:48 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 20:07 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:38 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 04:50 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> - 2023-07-22 23:59 -0400
Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-23 10:21 +0200
Re: v for frequency? jon <jon@nospam.cn> - 2023-07-23 14:41 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-23 17:22 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-23 19:56 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 23:33 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-23 23:25 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-24 05:52 +0100
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-24 09:55 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-24 11:03 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-25 04:12 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-25 03:30 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-25 07:06 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2023-07-25 08:40 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 10:04 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-25 20:11 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 21:34 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> - 2023-07-25 17:35 -0400
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-26 00:45 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 09:47 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-25 19:08 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> - 2023-07-25 23:25 -0400
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-26 08:24 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-26 14:52 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 18:14 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-26 18:13 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-26 14:50 +0000
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-26 15:13 +0000
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-26 15:25 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Jim Joyce <none@none.invalid> - 2023-07-26 12:43 -0500
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-07-26 20:15 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-26 12:14 -0700
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 18:26 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2023-07-31 11:55 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 23:08 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-07-26 14:16 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-25 19:55 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-25 21:05 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-26 00:52 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 10:00 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-26 08:23 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 11:03 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-26 14:44 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 16:57 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-26 18:12 +0000
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-26 18:51 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-27 04:58 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-27 10:47 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 23:10 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 10:02 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-25 08:35 +0000
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-25 14:50 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-25 15:17 +0000
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-25 16:26 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-25 20:26 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-25 21:07 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-26 00:43 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-26 10:13 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-08-28 04:15 +0100
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 23:20 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-08-28 04:14 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-08-28 04:13 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-25 20:23 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-25 23:29 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2023-07-23 08:19 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-23 08:52 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 23:29 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-23 10:27 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 23:28 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-28 09:58 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 02:15 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:35 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:56 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 21:28 -0700
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:33 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 02:10 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-27 04:40 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-27 13:33 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 16:09 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 08:22 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 16:29 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 09:14 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-27 20:48 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 22:12 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 00:26 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 16:30 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 02:52 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:36 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-28 19:49 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-28 21:31 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-29 12:33 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 12:50 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 18:18 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:23 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 12:36 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-29 18:07 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 22:23 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-29 13:26 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 06:45 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-29 13:56 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 14:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-29 20:45 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 18:33 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:24 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 14:56 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 07:22 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 15:28 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 09:00 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Bev <none@forme.com> - 2023-05-29 16:42 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 18:47 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:28 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 12:03 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-31 05:22 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 05:21 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:00 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 19:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 12:22 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-29 21:38 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 17:46 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 18:24 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-31 05:10 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 19:13 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-05-29 19:31 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 18:52 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:30 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-06-15 01:32 +0200
Re: v for frequency? SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> - 2023-06-15 16:30 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 12:40 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-29 18:00 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 22:25 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 12:16 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 05:40 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 22:02 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-29 23:00 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 09:00 +1000
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-30 00:46 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 10:27 +1000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 17:55 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 14:36 +1000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 22:14 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 15:50 +1000
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-30 00:37 -0700
Re: "Who or What is Rod Speed?" Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:20 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 02:23 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 19:55 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 12:01 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 13:14 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 14:32 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 07:25 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 15:50 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-30 16:36 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 15:41 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 17:20 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-31 12:24 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 11:33 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 13:03 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:17 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 17:16 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-31 12:26 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 11:35 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 12:44 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:24 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 17:43 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 12:42 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-05-30 18:13 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 18:19 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-05-30 18:04 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-31 12:30 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 12:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-05-30 15:53 +0100
Re: v for frequency? SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> - 2023-05-30 16:05 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 16:12 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-30 16:33 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 17:14 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 05:22 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 21:44 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 09:51 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 05:38 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 21:45 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 13:49 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 07:53 +1000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 15:47 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 09:19 +1000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 18:10 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 13:11 +1000
Re: "Who or What is Rod Speed?" Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:24 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 08:32 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-31 01:46 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-31 14:16 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:27 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-31 20:08 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> - 2023-06-01 14:14 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-06-01 06:58 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 17:14 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-06-01 11:31 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-02 10:23 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> - 2023-06-01 20:41 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2023-06-01 20:19 -0400
Re: v for frequency? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2023-06-01 18:01 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-02 10:20 +0100
Re: v for frequency? SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> - 2023-06-02 13:09 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-06-01 14:16 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-06-01 08:43 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 17:16 +0100
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 17:13 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> - 2023-06-01 17:42 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2023-06-01 11:10 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-06-01 11:35 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2023-05-30 14:22 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 14:40 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2023-05-30 15:13 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 16:04 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 04:36 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 20:44 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 14:42 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 07:56 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:25 +0200
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:19 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 18:45 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 20:00 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-29 12:29 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 08:40 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:20 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 05:08 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 10:21 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-06-02 07:23 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-05-29 21:31 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 12:40 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-07-29 22:51 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-30 08:07 -0700
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-30 18:17 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:31 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 04:58 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:32 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 12:39 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 18:32 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2023-05-29 15:17 -0400
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 21:34 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 11:13 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 08:26 +1000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 04:05 +0000
Re: The TWO Trolling Senile Shitheads at Loggerheads! LMAO! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 10:01 +0200
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 09:58 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 04:00 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 10:04 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 07:50 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 16:01 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 09:59 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 18:05 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 10:20 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 18:27 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:44 -0700
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 17:47 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-30 22:20 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 14:28 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-28 07:10 -0700
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-28 17:14 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-28 18:14 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> - 2023-07-28 14:19 -0400
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-28 21:20 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-28 13:33 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-28 22:46 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-28 17:03 -0700
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 10:18 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-29 08:41 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 10:03 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-07-29 05:41 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-29 19:25 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 22:08 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-29 18:44 +0000
Re: v for frequency? charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2023-07-29 19:45 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-29 14:56 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-30 00:35 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-30 10:15 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 22:12 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-07-29 00:43 -0700
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-05-30 17:24 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:53 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2023-05-30 14:14 -0400
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 14:28 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 14:27 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 15:48 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-30 10:05 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 17:27 +0000
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 18:38 +0100
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-05-30 18:53 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-30 21:02 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 22:42 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:28 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 22:39 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:29 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 08:30 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 11:33 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:32 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 21:10 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-31 14:46 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 19:10 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 21:14 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 07:40 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-29 19:33 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 22:15 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-29 14:52 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-05-30 21:59 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 07:38 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 07:38 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 04:46 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-30 21:46 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 07:58 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-06-01 06:19 +1000
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 22:54 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-05-31 23:25 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-06-01 08:00 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 09:44 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 08:08 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-06-01 20:00 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 16:58 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-30 22:35 +0000
Re: v for frequency? Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> - 2023-05-30 19:15 -0400
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-31 03:28 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 14:35 +1000
Re: Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:33 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-31 08:26 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-31 15:00 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 19:13 +0200
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:33 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 09:10 +0100
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 10:31 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 09:05 -0700
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-05-31 16:19 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-31 10:14 -0700
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-05-31 17:49 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-06-01 03:17 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 09:51 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-29 09:11 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-07-29 01:52 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 14:23 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-28 07:05 -0700
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-28 17:11 +0200
Re: v for frequency? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-07-28 15:50 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-28 18:19 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-28 20:40 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 06:05 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 05:59 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 22:03 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 00:28 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-28 20:15 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-29 02:59 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-29 10:05 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-29 12:38 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 05:58 +0100
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 05:55 +0100
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-28 06:57 -0700
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-28 17:08 +0200
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-28 18:12 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-28 20:38 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-28 21:05 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-28 22:50 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 10:15 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-07-29 08:43 +0000
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-07-29 18:35 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-07-29 22:07 +0200
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-07-28 17:12 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2023-07-28 23:53 -0700
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 08:17 -0700
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-27 15:57 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 09:32 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 22:39 +0000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 21:02 -0700
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-28 06:19 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:45 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 05:52 +0100
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:37 +0200
Re: v for frequency? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-05-28 10:02 +1000
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 21:34 -0700
Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:46 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2023-05-27 20:51 +0100
Re: v for frequency? Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> - 2023-05-27 21:31 +0000
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-28 05:53 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 22:45 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:48 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:36 +0100
Re: Troll-feeding Senile HUGE ASSHOLE Alert! Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-27 16:07 +0200
Re: v for frequency? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2023-05-27 12:27 -0400
Re: v for frequency? John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> - 2023-05-27 10:05 -0700
Re: v for frequency? "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> - 2023-07-23 01:59 +0100
Re: v for frequency? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2023-05-27 22:58 +0000
Re: lowbrowwoman, the Endlessly Driveling Senile Gossip Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:50 +0200
Re: v for frequency? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-28 09:51 +0100
Re: v for frequency? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2023-05-28 11:24 +0100
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| From | Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 20:41 +0100 |
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In message <u5ag57$2r3as$2@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes >On 01/06/2023 14:58, John Larkin wrote: >> Lots of things are made from fermented milk. Nobody was conned; pople >> could have bought Cadbury but it's even worse. > >Since it was bought by a US company it is now completely inedible. >It's just colored sugar. There is no taste of cocoa whatsoever > Reported, a couple of days ago, as now being far too crumbly. <https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/26/cadbury-flake-now-too-c rumbly-for-99-cones-say-ice-cream-sellers> [Sorry - Tiny URL now no good with XP] -- Ian Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements
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| From | Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 20:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5938d982-9ade-b18f-a744-c2a22dfc333d@electrooptical.net> |
| In reply to | #697301 |
On 2023-06-01 09:58, John Larkin wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 14:14:53 +0100, Martin Brown > <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice >>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>> >>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>> >>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>> >>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>> >>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >> >> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate >> that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a >> bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! >> > > Lots of things are made from fermented milk. Nobody was conned; pople > could have bought Cadbury but it's even worse. > > We have all sorts of great chocolate available now, as we have lots of > cheeses. My parents grew up poor in the South and wouldn't have been > able to afford Lundt if it had been available. Times have changed. > >>> And as for modern, >>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like water. >> >> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. > > Do you drink raw milk? We can get skim, lowfat, regular "whole", > lactose free, extra rich, and a couple of fakes, like almond and soy. > The standard "whole" (ultra-pasteurized, homogenized, 3.25% butterfat) > milk tastes fine to me and Mo likes it in her tea. It's safe and keeps > fresh. > > We keep half-and-half for coffee and some baking, and heavy cream for > whipping and sauces. The squeeze-valve things of sour cream are great > too. > > Thanks, all you cows. > > Contempt seems to be your food of choice. Enjoy. > French milk is horrible--all UHT. It tastes like diluted Carnation Evaporated. It's the same in Holland and Belgium, Is British supermarket milk any different? (AFAICT it's an EU mandate, so probably in force even post-Brexit.) You can get low-temperature pasteurized, non-homogenized milk here too. It's called 'Standard Milk". Not found in supermarkets any more, though. One thing that's been noticeable here in the last couple of years is that milk keeps a lot better in the frig, even after it's been opened. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
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| From | Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 18:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3ddfe321-fd60-492f-b8b2-1a67edb5dd8en@googlegroups.com> |
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fredag den 2. juni 2023 kl. 02.19.47 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs: > On 2023-06-01 09:58, John Larkin wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 14:14:53 +0100, Martin Brown > > <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: > >>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian > >>> <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin > >>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice > >>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? > >>>>> > >>>>> google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk > >>>>> > >>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? > >>>> > >>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. > >>> > >>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? > >> > >> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate > >> that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a > >> bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! > >> > > > > Lots of things are made from fermented milk. Nobody was conned; pople > > could have bought Cadbury but it's even worse. > > > > We have all sorts of great chocolate available now, as we have lots of > > cheeses. My parents grew up poor in the South and wouldn't have been > > able to afford Lundt if it had been available. Times have changed. > > > >>> And as for modern, > >>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. > >>> > >>> Doesn't taste like water. > >> > >> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then > >> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. > > > > Do you drink raw milk? We can get skim, lowfat, regular "whole", > > lactose free, extra rich, and a couple of fakes, like almond and soy. > > The standard "whole" (ultra-pasteurized, homogenized, 3.25% butterfat) > > milk tastes fine to me and Mo likes it in her tea. It's safe and keeps > > fresh. > > > > We keep half-and-half for coffee and some baking, and heavy cream for > > whipping and sauces. The squeeze-valve things of sour cream are great > > too. > > > > Thanks, all you cows. > > > > Contempt seems to be your food of choice. Enjoy. > > > French milk is horrible--all UHT. It tastes like diluted Carnation > Evaporated. It's the same in Holland and Belgium, > > Is British supermarket milk any different? (AFAICT it's an EU mandate, > so probably in force even post-Brexit.) > > You can get low-temperature pasteurized, non-homogenized milk here too. > It's called 'Standard Milk". > > Not found in supermarkets any more, though. > > One thing that's been noticeable here in the last couple of years is > that milk keeps a lot better in the frig, even after it's been opened. yeh, I've noticed it too. best-before is still usually ~10 days after production date but it used to be hit and miss if it was still good on the last days
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-06-02 10:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u5cc9c$34os8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #697329 |
On 02/06/2023 01:19, Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 2023-06-01 09:58, John Larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 14:14:53 +0100, Martin Brown >> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and >>>>>>>> Prejudice >>>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>>> >>>>>> google   childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>>> >>>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >>> >>> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate >>> that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a >>> bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! >>> >> >> Lots of things are made from fermented milk. Nobody was conned; pople >> could have bought Cadbury but it's even worse. >> >> We have all sorts of great chocolate available now, as we have lots of >> cheeses. My parents grew up poor in the South and wouldn't have been >> able to afford Lundt if it had been available. Times have changed. >> >>>> And as for modern, >>>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>>> >>>> Doesn't taste like water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >>> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. >> >> Do you drink raw milk? We can get skim, lowfat, regular "whole", >> lactose free, extra rich, and a couple of fakes, like almond and soy. >> The standard "whole" (ultra-pasteurized, homogenized, 3.25% butterfat) >> milk tastes fine to me and Mo likes it in her tea. It's safe and keeps >> fresh. >> >> We keep half-and-half for coffee and some baking, and heavy cream for >> whipping and sauces. The squeeze-valve things of sour cream are great >> too. >> >> Thanks, all you cows. >> >> Contempt seems to be your food of choice. Enjoy. >> > > French milk is horrible--all UHT. It tastes like diluted Carnation > Evaporated. It's the same in Holland and Belgium, > > Is British supermarket milk any different? (AFAICT it's an EU mandate, > so probably in force even post-Brexit.) > I don't think so. UHT milk is completely different to normal pasteurised milk. AFAICT milk is pasteurised - flash heated - the separated into fat and non fat, then blended back to whole fat, skimmed or semi skimmed and 'homegenised' by blasting it through a nozzle to stop the fat separating out, and that is essentially it. UHT milk is heat treated to a far greater extent to remove nearly all bacteria which gives it a much longer shelf life. But it also changes its chemical structure considerably. It does 'taste different' But I don't drink milk anyway. I really don't like milk., Probably got scared by my mothers teats at the age of 3 days. I use 'unleaded' milk (semi skimmed) in coffee and that's it. On very rare occasions I might have a bowl of cornflakes. I cook with milk though for sauces and batters But I love butter cheese and 'natural' yoghurt. I stock no margarine or vegetable fat product at all. > You can get low-temperature pasteurized, non-homogenized milk here too. > It's called 'Standard Milk". > That is available but its not the dominant product in the UK. Pasteurised and homogenised and possibly skimmed is what we get. > Not found in supermarkets any more, though. > > One thing that's been noticeable here in the last couple of years is > that milk keeps a lot better in the frig, even after it's been opened. > Stuff I have separates out into sludge and whey after a few days even in the fridge. Tastes vile. Not like the old days when it separated out into butter and whey, and or turned itself into cottage cheese... And a major stomach infection 4 times a year was the norm :-) I am no fan of the 'natural, organic' life. Been there, done that etc, I don't like free range pigs because they are morally better, or have more nutritional value, I like them because they taste fucking BRILLIANT. And my body says 'thank you' to me, and the pig, for the privilege. Same goes for grass fed lamb and beef. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. -- Yogi Berra
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| From | SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2023-06-02 13:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u5cm5k$3652h$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #697329 |
On 02/06/2023 01:19, Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 2023-06-01 09:58, John Larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 14:14:53 +0100, Martin Brown >> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and >>>>>>>> Prejudice >>>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>>> >>>>>> google   childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>>> >>>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >>> >>> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate >>> that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a >>> bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! >>> >> >> Lots of things are made from fermented milk. Nobody was conned; pople >> could have bought Cadbury but it's even worse. >> >> We have all sorts of great chocolate available now, as we have lots of >> cheeses. My parents grew up poor in the South and wouldn't have been >> able to afford Lundt if it had been available. Times have changed. >> >>>> And as for modern, >>>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>>> >>>> Doesn't taste like water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >>> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. >> >> Do you drink raw milk? We can get skim, lowfat, regular "whole", >> lactose free, extra rich, and a couple of fakes, like almond and soy. >> The standard "whole" (ultra-pasteurized, homogenized, 3.25% butterfat) >> milk tastes fine to me and Mo likes it in her tea. It's safe and keeps >> fresh. >> >> We keep half-and-half for coffee and some baking, and heavy cream for >> whipping and sauces. The squeeze-valve things of sour cream are great >> too. >> >> Thanks, all you cows. >> >> Contempt seems to be your food of choice. Enjoy. >> > > French milk is horrible--all UHT. It tastes like diluted Carnation > Evaporated. It's the same in Holland and Belgium, > > Is British supermarket milk any different? (AFAICT it's an EU mandate, > so probably in force even post-Brexit.) I like British milk - in fact I have a glass on my desk right now. French milk tastes odd. My wife calls it "rice milk".
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| From | Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 14:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qL1eM.490309$ZnFc.291@fx41.iad> |
| In reply to | #697299 |
On 2023-06-01, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >> >>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice >>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>> >>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>> >>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>> >>>> google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>> >>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>> >>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >> >> Like making yogurt or ice cream? > > Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate > that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a > bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! I've been eating Hershey chocolate all my life, and I like the sour-milk flavor. Other milk chocolate tastes flat and boring. Even decent European brands. It's no different from buttermilk, yogurt, or cultured butter. I don't like cultured butter because it tastes rancid, since I have always purchased sweet butter. >> And as for modern, >>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >> >> Doesn't taste like water. > > Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then > homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. It tastes like milk to me. I grew up in the Detroit suburbs, not on a farm. -- Cindy Hamilton
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| From | John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 08:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <jueh7i10q2sqno10m2c6jevslskp6oo9l0@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #697304 |
On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 14:16:54 GMT, Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote: >On 2023-06-01, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice >>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>> >>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>> >>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>> >>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>> >>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >> >> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate >> that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a >> bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! > >I've been eating Hershey chocolate all my life, and I like the >sour-milk flavor. Other milk chocolate tastes flat and boring. >Even decent European brands. The Hershey almond bars are different somehow. Darker, less gritty, not as sour I think. > >It's no different from buttermilk, yogurt, or cultured butter. I >don't like cultured butter because it tastes rancid, since I have >always purchased sweet butter. > >>> And as for modern, >>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like water. >> >> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. > >It tastes like milk to me. I grew up in the Detroit suburbs, not >on a farm. Engineering supplies: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0xpxut2aqost9axpw3ki1/Eng_Supplies.jpg?raw=1
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 17:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u5ag9o$2r3as$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #697304 |
On 01/06/2023 15:16, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > On 2023-06-01, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice >>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>> >>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>> >>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>> >>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>> >>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >> >> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate >> that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a >> bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! > > I've been eating Hershey chocolate all my life, and I like the > sour-milk flavor. Other milk chocolate tastes flat and boring. > Even decent European brands. > > It's no different from buttermilk, yogurt, or cultured butter. I > don't like cultured butter because it tastes rancid, since I have > always purchased sweet butter. > >>> And as for modern, >>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like water. >> >> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. > > It tastes like milk to me. I grew up in the Detroit suburbs, not > on a farm. > Years ago I drank fresh goats milk, from a pair of goats down te road. it tasted disgusting, like newspapers. Later on I saw the goats, and that, mainly was what they were eating. Newsprint. Supposed to be bedding, but goats are goats Milk is a relatively vile drink anyway. . -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 17:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u5ag2c$2r3as$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #697299 |
On 01/06/2023 14:14, Martin Brown wrote: > On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >> >>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and >>>>>> Prejudice >>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>> >>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>> >>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>> >>>> google   childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>> >>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>> >>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >> >> Like making yogurt or ice cream? > > Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured chocolate > that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply was always a > bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very cunning marketing! > >> And as for modern, >>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >> >> Doesn't taste like water. > > Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then > homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. > Most milk is only pasteurised. -- Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.
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| From | Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 17:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u5ahpm$2r97i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #697309 |
On 01/06/2023 17:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 01/06/2023 14:14, Martin Brown wrote: >> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and >>>>>>> Prejudice >>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>> >>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> google   childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>> >>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>> >>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>> >>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >> >> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured >> chocolate that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply >> was always a bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very >> cunning marketing! >> >>> And as for modern, >>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like water. >> >> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. >> > Most milk is only pasteurised. Not in the US it isn't. They destroy milk beyond all recognition. The only thing about natural milk that remains is its whiteness. Most UK supermarket milk has been pasteurised and often homogenised to obtain the various milk fat contents that people prefer these days and also to stabilise it so that the emulsion doesn't settle to milk and cream like the old milk bottles of real pasteurised milk used to do. Basically the supermarkets prefer a longer shelf life over taste... https://www.mcqueensdairies.co.uk/pasteurised-milk/ A local farm sells proper pasteurised milk at the farm gate along with their clotted cream which has won awards. They started out off farm sales with a shed with a fridge and an honesty box at the end of their drive during lockdown when all their commercial outlets were closed. It has since become something of a destination with a clever machine that refills 1L bottles with any of their milk or various milk shakes. There are big queues there at the weekend! It is more expensive and doesn't keep as well as supermarket milk but it tastes a heck of a lot better, same is true with unpasteurised cheeses. -- Martin Brown
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| From | Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 11:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <124294f8-e8a2-4fc4-9386-16c2586eb4abn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #697313 |
torsdag den 1. juni 2023 kl. 18.42.37 UTC+2 skrev Martin Brown: > On 01/06/2023 17:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > On 01/06/2023 14:14, Martin Brown wrote: > >> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: > >>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian > >>> <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin > >>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and > >>>>>>> Prejudice > >>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? > >>>>> > >>>>> google childhood deaths unpasteurized milk > >>>>> > >>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? > >>>> > >>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. > >>> > >>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? > >> > >> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured > >> chocolate that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply > >> was always a bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very > >> cunning marketing! > >> > >>> And as for modern, > >>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. > >>> > >>> Doesn't taste like water. > >> > >> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then > >> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. > >> > > Most milk is only pasteurised. > Not in the US it isn't. They destroy milk beyond all recognition. The > only thing about natural milk that remains is its whiteness. UHT? that is vile low temp pasteurised is fine, I find no difference between homogenised or not except no lumps
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| From | John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2023-06-01 11:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <k2ph7it8h93pjp6vv5nrhl09npm6q2dbtd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #697313 |
On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 17:42:27 +0100, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >On 01/06/2023 17:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 01/06/2023 14:14, Martin Brown wrote: >>> On 31/05/2023 15:27, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 14:16:01 +0100, Max Demian >>>> <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 30/05/2023 21:49, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 05:38:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>> Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and >>>>>>>> Prejudice >>>>>>>> was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some certainly were. Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>>> >>>>>> google   childhood deaths unpasteurized milk >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you a raw milk fan? >>>>> >>>>> I am. Anything you do to milk impairs the flavour. >>>> >>>> Like making yogurt or ice cream? >>> >>> Making it into Hershey bars - the world's only vomit flavoured >>> chocolate that somehow they conned Americans into buying. Milk supply >>> was always a bit rancid so they made a feature out of it - very >>> cunning marketing! >>> >>>> And as for modern, >>>>> homogenised, "standardised" milk. Just white water. >>>> >>>> Doesn't taste like water. >>> >>> Doesn't taste like milk either after it has been sterilised and then >>> homogenised to something more resembling an inert white paint. >>> >> Most milk is only pasteurised. > >Not in the US it isn't. They destroy milk beyond all recognition. The >only thing about natural milk that remains is its whiteness. > >Most UK supermarket milk has been pasteurised and often homogenised to >obtain the various milk fat contents that people prefer these days and >also to stabilise it so that the emulsion doesn't settle to milk and >cream like the old milk bottles of real pasteurised milk used to do. >Basically the supermarkets prefer a longer shelf life over taste... > >https://www.mcqueensdairies.co.uk/pasteurised-milk/ > We can get non-homogenized milk here, in a glass bottle with the cream floating on top.
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| From | Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> |
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| Date | 2023-05-30 14:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <43b9a724-bdd3-4075-a747-771599756b74n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #697125 |
tirsdag den 30. maj 2023 kl. 21.39.03 UTC+2 skrev Rod Speed: > On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin > <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:33:17 +0100, Max Demian > > <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote: > > > >> On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote: > >>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton > >>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin > >>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin > >>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >>>>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk...@arcor.de> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like 500 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diseases. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "caseus" was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven > >>>>>>>>>>> fetal > >>>>>>>>>>> losses". > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity > >>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>> illness and deaths. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use > >>>>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Here is what you said, again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. > >>>>> > >>>>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out > >>>>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or > >>>>>>>> goats. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sometimes it did. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. > >>>>> > >>>>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed > >>>>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. > >>>> > >>>> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by > >>>> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected > >>>> milk. > >>>> > >>>> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may > >>>> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, > >>>> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders > >>>> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." > >>>> > >>>> No, thanks. > >>> > >>> In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death > >>> was. > >> > >> I don't doubt that, but I don't think novels are a good source of such > >> information. In old stories people were always catching a "chill" and > >> dying, which doesn't really happen. > > > > No, that was popular in novels but cold showers aren't big killers. > > > > But the old novels were full of death, young widows and widowers and > > dead children. That was real. > But due to TB and no antibiotics, not due to them using raw milk. > > Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice > > was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. > But they weren't killed by raw milk. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30234385/
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| From | John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2023-05-30 14:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9oqc7idjlh6vfkepm0u5lrru96u25ujrsi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #697132 |
On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote: >tirsdag den 30. maj 2023 kl. 21.39.03 UTC+2 skrev Rod Speed: >> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:33:17 +0100, Max Demian >> > <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton >> >>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> >>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin >> >>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> >>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin >> >>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> >>>>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk...@arcor.de> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like 500 >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diseases. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "caseus" was >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven >> >>>>>>>>>>> fetal >> >>>>>>>>>>> losses". >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity >> >>>>>>>>> about >> >>>>>>>>> illness and deaths. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use >> >>>>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Here is what you said, again. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out >> >>>>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or >> >>>>>>>> goats. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Sometimes it did. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed >> >>>>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. >> >>>> >> >>>> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by >> >>>> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected >> >>>> milk. >> >>>> >> >>>> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may >> >>>> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, >> >>>> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders >> >>>> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." >> >>>> >> >>>> No, thanks. >> >>> >> >>> In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death >> >>> was. >> >> >> >> I don't doubt that, but I don't think novels are a good source of such >> >> information. In old stories people were always catching a "chill" and >> >> dying, which doesn't really happen. >> > >> > No, that was popular in novels but cold showers aren't big killers. >> > >> > But the old novels were full of death, young widows and widowers and >> > dead children. That was real. >> But due to TB and no antibiotics, not due to them using raw milk. >> > Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice >> > was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >> But they weren't killed by raw milk. > > >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30234385/ It surprises me that nobody accidentally discovered things like preserving food and saving babies, before Pasteur. It should have been obvious that reheating, say, a pot of stew kept it from spoiling. Sealing food in a jar under wax should have been discovered too.
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| From | Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> |
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| Date | 2023-05-30 15:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fcbd3f8a-00dc-47d4-8865-2e42b357762cn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #697133 |
tirsdag den 30. maj 2023 kl. 23.40.49 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: > On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen > <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote: > > >tirsdag den 30. maj 2023 kl. 21.39.03 UTC+2 skrev Rod Speed: > >> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin > >> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:33:17 +0100, Max Demian > >> > <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote: > >> >>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton > >> >>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >> >>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin > >> >>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >> >>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin > >> >>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" > >> >>>>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> > >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk...@arcor.de> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like 500 > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diseases. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "caseus" was > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven > >> >>>>>>>>>>> fetal > >> >>>>>>>>>>> losses". > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity > >> >>>>>>>>> about > >> >>>>>>>>> illness and deaths. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use > >> >>>>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Here is what you said, again. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out > >> >>>>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or > >> >>>>>>>> goats. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Sometimes it did. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed > >> >>>>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by > >> >>>> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected > >> >>>> milk. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may > >> >>>> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, > >> >>>> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders > >> >>>> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." > >> >>>> > >> >>>> No, thanks. > >> >>> > >> >>> In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death > >> >>> was. > >> >> > >> >> I don't doubt that, but I don't think novels are a good source of such > >> >> information. In old stories people were always catching a "chill" and > >> >> dying, which doesn't really happen. > >> > > >> > No, that was popular in novels but cold showers aren't big killers. > >> > > >> > But the old novels were full of death, young widows and widowers and > >> > dead children. That was real. > >> But due to TB and no antibiotics, not due to them using raw milk. > >> > Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice > >> > was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. > >> But they weren't killed by raw milk. > > > > > >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30234385/ > It surprises me that nobody accidentally discovered things like > preserving food and saving babies, before Pasteur. > > It should have been obvious that reheating, say, a pot of stew kept it > from spoiling. Sealing food in a jar under wax should have been > discovered too. they did, https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/factsheets/food_pres_hist.html
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| From | John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2023-05-30 16:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nevc7i1k1r7f8e8nlv9qfsv7gmia3ausds@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #697138 |
On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:13:10 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote: >tirsdag den 30. maj 2023 kl. 23.40.49 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: >> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen >> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote: >> >> >tirsdag den 30. maj 2023 kl. 21.39.03 UTC+2 skrev Rod Speed: >> >> On Wed, 31 May 2023 02:51:26 +1000, John Larkin >> >> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Tue, 30 May 2023 16:33:17 +0100, Max Demian >> >> > <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On 30/05/2023 15:25, John Larkin wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton >> >> >>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> >> >>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin >> >> >>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> >> >>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin >> >> >>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" >> >> >>>>>>>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.uk> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk...@arcor.de> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like 500 >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diseases. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "caseus" was >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> fetal >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> losses". >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity >> >> >>>>>>>>> about >> >> >>>>>>>>> illness and deaths. >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use >> >> >>>>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Here is what you said, again. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out >> >> >>>>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or >> >> >>>>>>>> goats. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Sometimes it did. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed >> >> >>>>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by >> >> >>>> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected >> >> >>>> milk. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may >> >> >>>> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, >> >> >>>> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders >> >> >>>> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> No, thanks. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death >> >> >>> was. >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't doubt that, but I don't think novels are a good source of such >> >> >> information. In old stories people were always catching a "chill" and >> >> >> dying, which doesn't really happen. >> >> > >> >> > No, that was popular in novels but cold showers aren't big killers. >> >> > >> >> > But the old novels were full of death, young widows and widowers and >> >> > dead children. That was real. >> >> But due to TB and no antibiotics, not due to them using raw milk. >> >> > Life spans, from birth, have roughly doubled since Pride and Prejudice >> >> > was published. About half of newborns didn't survive to 5. >> >> But they weren't killed by raw milk. >> > >> > >> >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30234385/ >> It surprises me that nobody accidentally discovered things like >> preserving food and saving babies, before Pasteur. >> >> It should have been obvious that reheating, say, a pot of stew kept it >> from spoiling. Sealing food in a jar under wax should have been >> discovered too. > >they did, https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/factsheets/food_pres_hist.html After the railroad was pushed over the Sierra crest, about 1870, there was an industry of exporting ice over the railroad, to stock ice houses in the lowlands. This allowed fresh fruit to be shipped East. East of Eden.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-05-31 04:36 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.15rsmlm8byq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #697067 |
On Wed, 31 May 2023 00:25:50 +1000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton > <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin >>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann >>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that "caseus" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash >>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, >>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other >>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ >>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven >>>>>>>>> fetal >>>>>>>>> losses". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> illness and deaths. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use >>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. >>>>> >>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. >>>> >>>> Here is what you said, again. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >>>> >>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. >>> >>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out >>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. >>> >>>> >>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or >>>>>> goats. >>>> >>>>> Sometimes it did. >>>> >>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. >>> >>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed >>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. >> >> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by >> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected >> milk. >> >> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may >> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, >> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders >> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." >> >> No, thanks. > > In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death > was. But that wasnt due to them using exclusively raw milk. And farm boy memoirs are a FAR better source than novels.
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| From | Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-05-30 20:44 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Lonely Sleepless Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! |
| Message-ID | <NurdM.6585882$MJk2.3269329@usenetxs.com> |
| In reply to | #697119 |
On Wed, 31 May 2023 04:36:11 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: <FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread> -- Pomegranate Bastard addressing the trolling senile cretin from Oz: "I repeat, you are a complete and utter imbecile." MID: <mpelth1engag7090piqvqp85pco7nphoal@4ax.com>
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| From | John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> |
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| Date | 2023-05-30 14:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8brc7ilh7ccvg71vpeppliiod7s5b8m2hp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #697119 |
On Wed, 31 May 2023 04:36:11 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 31 May 2023 00:25:50 +1000, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton >> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin >>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that "caseus" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >>>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ >>>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven >>>>>>>>>> fetal >>>>>>>>>> losses". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> illness and deaths. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use >>>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. >>>>> >>>>> Here is what you said, again. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >>>>> >>>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. >>>> >>>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out >>>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or >>>>>>> goats. >>>>> >>>>>> Sometimes it did. >>>>> >>>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. >>>> >>>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed >>>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. >>> >>> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by >>> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected >>> milk. >>> >>> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may >>> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, >>> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders >>> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." >>> >>> No, thanks. >> >> In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death >> was. > >But that wasnt due to them using exclusively raw milk. I never said anything that silly. > >And farm boy memoirs are a FAR better source than novels. Actually, many of the novelists died young too.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-05-31 07:56 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.15r1wkfibyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #697134 |
On Wed, 31 May 2023 07:42:08 +1000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 2023 04:36:11 +1000, "Rod Speed" > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 31 May 2023 00:25:50 +1000, John Larkin >> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 13:14:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton >>> <hamilton@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2023-05-30, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:50:42 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 15:14:47 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed" >>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dk4xp@arcor.de> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hem" ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diseases. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that "caseus" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tribes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (In the US, most states require all dairy products to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasteurized >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or equivalent.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 min. under a cobalt source??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs die out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nasties. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BULLSHIT. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As usual the signs of another lost argument. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you didn't/can't read the bit, "17 deaths, and seven >>>>>>>>>>> fetal >>>>>>>>>>> losses". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> illness and deaths. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sure, but your original claim that those who use >>>>>>>> raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is what you said, again. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even you should be able to see the word TYPICALLY there. >>>>> >>>>> The raw milk and unpasteurized cheese fads here did typically die out >>>>> when deaths got publicity. I've seen that happen a couple of times. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or >>>>>>>> goats. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes it did. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not TYPICALLY it didnt. >>>>> >>>>> In the All Creatures Great and Small series, entire herds were killed >>>>> to eliminate TB. That's in the Herriot books and the PBS series. >>>> >>>> Brucellosis is a crowd-pleaser as well. It's mostly passed by >>>> drinking unpasteurized milk and eating soft cheeses from infected >>>> milk. >>>> >>>> "The consequences of Brucella infection are highly variable and may >>>> include arthritis, spondylitis, thrombocytopenia, meningitis, uveitis, >>>> optic neuritis, endocarditis, and various neurological disorders >>>> collectively known as neurobrucellosis." >>>> >>>> No, thanks. >>> >>> In reading 18th and 19th century novels, it's shocking how usual death >>> was. >> >> But that wasnt due to them using exclusively raw milk. > I never said anything that silly. You clearly did say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are occasional fads here for raw milk, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunate side effects, like dead babies. >> And farm boy memoirs are a FAR better source than novels. > Actually, many of the novelists died young too. But not from using RAW milk.
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