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  Bezels David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-01-04 04:47 +0000
    Re: Bezels Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 21:06 -0800
    Re: Bezels Andy Bennet <andyb@andy.com> - 2021-01-04 11:30 +0000
      Re: Bezels Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 04:18 -0800
        Re: Bezels David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-01-04 16:02 +0000
          Re: Bezels "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2021-01-04 18:01 +0000
          Re: Bezels Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 13:36 -0800
            Re: Bezels Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 19:40 -0800
              Re: Bezels Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 04:17 -0800
        Re: Bezels Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 13:55 -0800
      Re: Bezels RosemontCrest <rosemontcrestwinery@post.com> - 2021-01-04 07:39 -0800
    Re: Bezels jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com - 2021-01-04 08:01 -0800
      Re: Bezels "Don" <g@crcomp.net> - 2021-01-04 18:32 +0000
      Re: Bezels Ralph Phillips <ralphp@philent.biz> - 2021-01-05 15:33 -0600
        Re: Bezels John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> - 2021-01-05 15:51 -0800
          Re: Bezels Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2021-01-05 20:06 -0800
    Re: Bezels "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2021-01-04 09:28 -0800
    Re: Bezels mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> - 2021-01-04 19:19 -0800
      Re: Bezels Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 19:43 -0800

#610742 — Bezels

I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
Amce Bezel Co. out there.

(Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
choose display...)



-- 
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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#610743

 David Lesher wrote:

===================
> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel. 
> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an 
> Amce Bezel Co. out there. 
> 
> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then 
> choose display...) 
> 
** There is this brand new thing called " Google". 

Never heard of it ???? 


....  Phil 

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#610761

On 04/01/2021 04:47, David Lesher wrote:
> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
> Amce Bezel Co. out there.
> 
> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
> choose display...)
> 

I initially thought you must be too lazy to do your own research but 
then I see that you have only been using the Internet since February so 
I am prepared to help a newbie.

If you type this into your web browser www.Google.co.uk you will be on a 
page known as a "search engine" You can then type in any query and you 
will get a list of pages where you should find an answer. Then you can 
do your own research.

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#610762

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 6:30:17 AM UTC-5, Andy Bennet wrote:
> On 04/01/2021 04:47, David Lesher wrote: 
> > I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel. 
> > Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an 
> > Amce Bezel Co. out there. 
> > 
> > (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then 
> > choose display...) 
> >
> I initially thought you must be too lazy to do your own research but 
> then I see that you have only been using the Internet since February so 
> I am prepared to help a newbie. 
> 
> If you type this into your web browser www.Google.co.uk you will be on a 
> page known as a "search engine" You can then type in any query and you 
> will get a list of pages where you should find an answer. Then you can 
> do your own research.

Really?  If Larkin had posted that he had a part that needed a mounting bezel people would be writing about all their favorite bezels and suppliers.  What is wrong with people that they can't just either help or not post at all.  I've always found things like this to be a major PITA.  If someone had been down that road before I would love to hear what they found.  

Google is not the panacea to every product search.  It is often a major PITA returning more ads than listings.  I often go to distributors' pages first.  Digikey is a good choice.  For electronic parts they have the best search capability out there although it can use improvement of course and recently seems to have taken some steps backwards combining search parameters that should be separate such as max and min power supply voltages.  I could be wrong, but I don't recall these being combined into a single field which makes it very difficult to select the appropriate choices from the now huge list.  

But bezels don't have a voltage rating, so maybe Digikey would be a good place to search. 

-- 

Rick C.

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#610772

I'm not very active in this newsgroup, but have been using
Usenet since UUCP days, circa 1985.

I started at Mouser and Digi-key, and used Mr. Google as
well. 

For example, DigiKey got me to Display Vision who makes
displays. They offer some actual bezels but way too big. (I need
~35mm*20mm for the display I am considering.)

The general searches get me a S/S+N ratio of about 0.1+18j -
the issue is dominated by sellers of laptop replacement bezels,
followed by multiple 2x16 display ones. 

I've chased dozens of links but not found one to a manufacturer
of same, someone offering many sizes. That's my goal.



-- 
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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#610778

David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not very active in this newsgroup, but have been using
> Usenet since UUCP days, circa 1985.
>
> I started at Mouser and Digi-key, and used Mr. Google as
> well.
>
> For example, DigiKey got me to Display Vision who makes
> displays. They offer some actual bezels but way too big. (I need
> ~35mm*20mm for the display I am considering.)
>
> The general searches get me a S/S+N ratio of about 0.1+18j -
> the issue is dominated by sellers of laptop replacement bezels,
> followed by multiple 2x16 display ones.
>
> I've chased dozens of links but not found one to a manufacturer
> of same, someone offering many sizes. That's my goal.

Search engines typically deliver consumer information, suitable for mass
markets. Search engines heavily favor retail advertiser's websites, and
retailers typically pitch their best selling products.  

Human-to-human communication is virtually mandatory for specialized,
niche markets. For instance, keeping information hidden from search 
engines provides an easy way for Class A manufacturers to comply 
with portions of FCC Part 15:

    Is the marketing of the device restricted in such a manner
    that it is not sold to residential users?

Danke,

-- 
Don, KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.

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#610797

 David Lesher wrote:
=================
> I'm not very active in this newsgroup, but have been using 
> Usenet since UUCP days, circa 1985. 
> 
**I knew you had been around for decades. 

> I started at Mouser and Digi-key, and used Mr. Google as 
> well. 

** But negligently failed to say so here. 
When I Googled " LCD bezels" I go pages of hits. 

You also needed to specify the size you wanted. 
We had no idea it was frigging tiny. 

You have still not leaned HOW  to post a Q on usenet or the web in general. 


......  Phil 

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#610806

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 4:36:24 PM UTC-5, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> David Lesher wrote: 
> =================
> > I'm not very active in this newsgroup, but have been using 
> > Usenet since UUCP days, circa 1985. 
> >
> **I knew you had been around for decades.
> > I started at Mouser and Digi-key, and used Mr. Google as 
> > well.
> ** But negligently failed to say so here. 
> When I Googled " LCD bezels" I go pages of hits. 
> 
> You also needed to specify the size you wanted. 
> We had no idea it was frigging tiny. 
> 
> You have still not leaned HOW to post a Q on usenet or the web in general. 

This place is like the monkey house at the zoo.  Then there are the favorites.  While this guy is asking for the advice of others regarding an item that is not at all easy to search for and gets a lot of crap about it, Larkin has asked for pretty much the same thing in another thread looking for an 8 pin MCU as if THAT were hard to search on and gets tons of positive responses.  People fall over themselves to help him. 

I know why Phil is being a prick about it... he doesn't know any better.  But why are the other monkeys jumping up and down over this?  

The guy didn't ask anyone to solve his bezel problem for him.  He asked if anyone knew of a "Amce Bezel Co" that would be a good source of such product.  

That's one problem with the Internet.  People use it as an excuse to be asses. 

-- 

Rick C.

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#610826

 gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>
 > 
> > You have still not leaned HOW to post a Q on usenet or the web in general.
>>
> This place is like the monkey house at the zoo. 

**  Only if you are an actual monkey  -   chucking shit at your unsuspecting neighbors. 


> I know why Phil is being a prick about it... he doesn't know any better.

**  You underestimate me by  a *massive factor* .

FYI: 

I wipe my soiled ass on more intelligent objects than you, each morning. 
 
> That's one problem with the Internet. People use it as an excuse to be asses. 
> 

**   LOL !!   

Rick Cunt is the absolute epitome of an American asshole.

All juvenile ego, no character whatsoever and devoid or any sort of insight. 

A total piece of shit on two legs. 



......  Phil 

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#610799

 gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> > 
> > If you type this into your web browser www.Google.co.uk you will be on a 
> > page known as a "search engine" You can then type in any query and you 
> > will get a list of pages where you should find an answer. Then you can 
> > do your own research.
>
> Really? If Larkin had posted that he had a part that needed a mounting bezel people 
> would be writing about all their favorite bezels and suppliers. 

** Utter bullshit. 

> What is wrong with people that they can't just either help or not post at all.

**  Pompous crap. 

 The lazy OP should have *known* to post what size he needed and that he had already searched for it. 
 Many folk did post useful replies but not you. 
 
Cos you are one *  self entitled, smug, narcissistic asshole * . 

 


.....  Phil 

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#610769

On 1/4/2021 3:30 AM, Andy Bennet wrote:
> On 04/01/2021 04:47, David Lesher wrote:
>> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
>> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
>> Amce Bezel Co. out there.
>>
>> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
>> choose display...)
>>
> 
> I initially thought you must be too lazy to do your own research but 
> then I see that you have only been using the Internet since February so 
> I am prepared to help a newbie.
> 
> If you type this into your web browser www.Google.co.uk you will be on a 
> page known as a "search engine" You can then type in any query and you 
> will get a list of pages where you should find an answer. Then you can 
> do your own research.

https://googlethatforyou.com?q=panel%20bezel

Have fun!

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#610771

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:47:22 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
<wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:

>I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
>Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
>Amce Bezel Co. out there.
>
>(Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
>choose display...)

We usually buy a polycarb sticker that paves over our entire front
panel, and includes a clear window for the LCD and little frosty
circles to let discrete LEDs shine through. But the setup costs for
that make it impractical for small volumes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3fycoyhpus0vpc/a4.jpg?raw=1



-- 

John Larkin      Highland Technology, Inc

The best designs are necessarily accidental.


  

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#610780

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:47:22 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
> <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
>>Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
>>Amce Bezel Co. out there.
>>
>>(Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
>>choose display...)
>
> We usually buy a polycarb sticker that paves over our entire front
> panel, and includes a clear window for the LCD and little frosty
> circles to let discrete LEDs shine through. But the setup costs for
> that make it impractical for small volumes.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3fycoyhpus0vpc/a4.jpg?raw=1

FWIW, Elecraft opts to protect their LCD panel with a simple, custom-
fit, rectangular, rounded corner, thin Plexiglas cover held in place by 
four screws:

    http://w1mj.com/radio/k3/smoke_test.jpg

Danke,

-- 
Don, KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.

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#610849

On 1/4/2021 10:01 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:47:22 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
> <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
>> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
>> Amce Bezel Co. out there.
>>
>> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
>> choose display...)
> 
> We usually buy a polycarb sticker that paves over our entire front
> panel, and includes a clear window for the LCD and little frosty
> circles to let discrete LEDs shine through. But the setup costs for
> that make it impractical for small volumes.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3fycoyhpus0vpc/a4.jpg?raw=1
> 
> 
> 

That, however, brings up another possibility.

A polymer (I want to say "vinyl" but there's more than just that out 
there!) face plate, possibly laser or ink jet printed on the back side, 
with the legends for the unit.  Then glued into place with some glue.

Plexi would do it also.  (For that maybe front print clear vinyl for the 
label, and a plexi overlay?)

Just tossing ideas out there; only David Lesher can say what will work 
or not for this item.

RwP

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#610855

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:33:38 -0600, Ralph Phillips <ralphp@philent.biz>
wrote:

>On 1/4/2021 10:01 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:47:22 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
>> <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel.
>>> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an
>>> Amce Bezel Co. out there.
>>>
>>> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then
>>> choose display...)
>> 
>> We usually buy a polycarb sticker that paves over our entire front
>> panel, and includes a clear window for the LCD and little frosty
>> circles to let discrete LEDs shine through. But the setup costs for
>> that make it impractical for small volumes.
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3fycoyhpus0vpc/a4.jpg?raw=1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>That, however, brings up another possibility.
>
>A polymer (I want to say "vinyl" but there's more than just that out 
>there!) face plate, possibly laser or ink jet printed on the back side, 
>with the legends for the unit.  Then glued into place with some glue.
>
>Plexi would do it also.  (For that maybe front print clear vinyl for the 
>label, and a plexi overlay?)
>
>Just tossing ideas out there; only David Lesher can say what will work 
>or not for this item.
>
>RwP

Digikey has a lot of bezels. Like light pipes and knobs and spacers
and such, very expensive.

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#610856

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 10:51:43 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:33:38 -0600, Ralph Phillips <ral...@philent.biz> 
> wrote:
> >On 1/4/2021 10:01 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: 
> >> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:47:22 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher 
> >> <wb8...@panix.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel. 
> >>> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an 
> >>> Acme Bezel Co. out there. 
> >>> 
> >>> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then 
> >>> choose display...) 
> >> 
> >> We usually buy a polycarb sticker that paves over our entire front 
> >> panel, and includes a clear window for the LCD and little frosty 
> >> circles to let discrete LEDs shine through. But the setup costs for 
> >> that make it impractical for small volumes. 
> >> 
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3fycoyhpus0vpc/a4.jpg?raw=1 
> > 
> >That, however, brings up another possibility. 
> > 
> >A polymer (I want to say "vinyl" but there's more than just that out 
> >there!) face plate, possibly laser or ink jet printed on the back side, 
> >with the legends for the unit. Then glued into place with some glue. 
> > 
> >Plexi would do it also. (For that maybe front print clear vinyl for the 
> >label, and a plexi overlay?) 
> > 
> >Just tossing ideas out there; only David Lesher can say what will work 
> >or not for this item. 
>
> Digikey has a lot of bezels. Like light pipes and knobs and spacers  and such, very expensive.

And rarely exactly what you want. Working out if what they've got can be made to serve your purpose is time-consuming, which is a non-financial expense.

And it's usually not as expensive as getting what you need made in small volumes. Making one-offs or just a couple of units has different constraints from even small volume production. John Larkin's attitude to getting special purpose transformers wound for low volume application is pretty negative, which implies that he doesn't like spending the time required to get exactly what he wants in small volume from specialist suppliers, which is such a non-financial expense.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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#610777

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 11:47:29 PM UTC-5, David Lesher wrote:
> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel. 
> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an 
> Amce Bezel Co. out there. 
> 
> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then 
> choose display...) 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com 
> & no one will talk to a host that's close.......................... 
> Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 
> is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

I would recommend  AliExpress if you do  not need it for a month or so

                                                      Dan

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#610805

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 11:47:29 PM UTC-5, David Lesher wrote:
> I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel. 
> Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an 
> Amce Bezel Co. out there. 
> 
> (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then 
> choose display...) 

Like you, I am a little surprised there aren't hundreds of bezels readily available out there for the Arduino crowd use.
If you find any good bezels for typical 2x16 LCD displays, please share with the group.

An alternative, if you can justify it in volume, or if you're just wanting a "high-ish quality", professional-looking demo unit to drum up some sales leads, you could maybe consider... 

Link:  https://www.jrpanel.com/

We use them quite a bit for a couple of our products, and for prototyping.
Which reminds me, now that that product is getting into the low hundreds, per order, might be time to shop it away from JRPanel. ?
But for smaller, prototype runs, JR's pricing is pretty hard to beat.  (?)

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#610807

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 10:20:02 PM UTC-5, mpm wrote:
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 11:47:29 PM UTC-5, David Lesher wrote:
> > I'm designing a project with a small LCD on the panel. 
> > Where can I go to find a matching bezel? There's gotta be an 
> > Amce Bezel Co. out there. 
> > 
> > (Size yet TBD, may well be find bezel first, then 
> > choose display...)
> Like you, I am a little surprised there aren't hundreds of bezels readily available out there for the Arduino crowd use. 
> If you find any good bezels for typical 2x16 LCD displays, please share with the group. 
> 
> An alternative, if you can justify it in volume, or if you're just wanting a "high-ish quality", professional-looking demo unit to drum up some sales leads, you could maybe consider... 
> 
> Link: https://www.jrpanel.com/ 
> 
> We use them quite a bit for a couple of our products, and for prototyping. 
> Which reminds me, now that that product is getting into the low hundreds, per order, might be time to shop it away from JRPanel. ? 
> But for smaller, prototype runs, JR's pricing is pretty hard to beat. (?)

Wow!  A rational, respectful response.  I was starting to think this group was completely incapable of this.  Thanks for restoring my faith... in something.  Not sure what it is since I know in general this group is beyond redemption. 

-- 

Rick C.

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