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Re: Op-amp mystery

From John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Op-amp mystery
Date 2024-09-10 12:38 -0700
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On 2024-09-10 2:31 a.m., Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> It's always the stupid things that cause the most trouble:
> 
> I was working on a fairly straightforward experimental audio circuit
> using TL074 op-amps laid out on Veroboard, which is prone to inter-track
> shorts unless you are very careful with your soldering.   The gain of a
> virtual-earth stage was too high, so I altered some resistor values to
> cut it down.
> 
> As this was a stereo system, I experimented with one channel first and
> then switched off and replaced the equivalent resistors in the second
> channel (one of the other op-amps in the same chip).
> 
> The input signal was a 6 Kc/s sinwave at about -10 dBu.  After the
> modification, the volume control, which was in a feedback loop, didnt
> seem to make much difference.  Then I realised that applying the signal
> to the left channel gave a distorted version of it in the right channel
> and vice-versa.  Obviously I had shorted two tracks somewhere - but
> where?
> 
> Things got even worse when I realised that the input signal was
> appearing on the virtual earth input of each op-amp, this definitely
> can't happen!  I decided it was time to switch off the power supply and
> go and ponder the problem over a cup of tea.
> 
> That was the point where I discovered I hadn't switched the power supply
> on in the first place.
> 

A cuppa Tea solves EVERYTHING!

John :-#)#

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Op-amp mystery liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-10 10:31 +0100
  Re: Op-amp mystery Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2024-09-10 05:27 -0700
  Re: Op-amp mystery john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> - 2024-09-10 07:47 -0700
    Re: Op-amp mystery Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-10 15:05 +0000
    Re: Op-amp mystery Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> - 2024-09-12 00:59 +0200
      Re: Op-amp mystery Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2024-09-11 19:00 -0700
      Re: Op-amp mystery john larkin <JL@gct.com> - 2024-09-11 19:10 -0700
      Re: Op-amp mystery piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-12 08:27 +0100
        Re: Op-amp mystery Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-12 10:12 +0000
    Re: Op-amp mystery liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-12 13:21 +0100
      Re: Op-amp mystery piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-12 14:34 +0000
        Re: Op-amp mystery liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-12 18:03 +0100
  Re: Op-amp mystery John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> - 2024-09-10 12:38 -0700
    Re: Op-amp mystery Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2024-09-11 12:15 -0700
      Re: Op-amp mystery liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-11 21:35 +0100
        Re: Op-amp mystery Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2024-09-11 18:37 -0700
  Re: Op-amp mystery legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2024-09-11 09:29 -0400

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