Re: Better cheaper super capacitors

From	Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Better cheaper super capacitors
Date	2024-09-10 00:14 +1000
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On 9/09/2024 6:18 pm, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> [...]
>> We have to cut our carbon emissions right back to stop global warming -
>> the aim is to get the atmospheric CO2 level back to the regular
>> inter-glacial 270ppm.
> 
> That would only stop man-made global warming, which is a tiny fraction
> of the overall effect.  Volcanos, forest fires and decomposing
> vegetation have far more effect than mankind has.

Rubbish. The natural CO2 cycle does dump 790 gigatons pf CO2 into the 
atmosphere every year, but it also takes it out again.

About 60% human generated 29 gigatons per year stays in the atmosphere, 
while 40% dissolves in the oceans.

https://www.che-project.eu/news/how-do-human-co2-emissions-compare-natural-co2-emissions

The human generated CO2 is low on C-14, and that started messing up 
carbon dating around 1945

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suess_effect

> What mankind has done to apparently increase 'global warming' is to skew
> the data collection and statistics, supported by (and supporting) a
> growing industry of self-appointed environmentalists.
> 
>   
>>> CNG cars work.  But the greenies hate methane.
>>
>> For good reason.
> 
> Then why don't they oppose tree planting and support the clearance of
> forests, which are the biggest source of methane when the trees and
> other plants die and decompose?

Not really.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/methane/?intent=121

NASA blames natural processes for 40% of the current emissions and human 
activities for the other 60%, which is why atmospheric methane levels 
have more than doubled over the past 200 years - you can get that number 
from ice core data.

> I definitely think we should be less profligate with our natural
> resources, but we should not be treating it as a religion and proposing
> feel-good knee-jerk 'solutions' which haven't been properly thought
> through.

Since you didn't check your claim before you posted it, you don't seem 
to have done a proper job of thinking about what you posted.

And John Larkin's claims about what greenies think come from climate 
change denial propaganda. I've not heard any real greenie say anything 
anything like that stupid.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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          Re: Better cheaper super capacitors liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-09 09:18 +0100
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        Re: Better cheaper super capacitors Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2024-09-09 06:36 +0000
          Re: Better cheaper super capacitors Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2024-09-09 17:31 +1000
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        Re: Better cheaper super capacitors liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2024-09-11 12:52 +0100
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