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On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 09:38:17 -0700, Ross Finlayson
<ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 03/20/2026 10:36 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On 20/03/2026 4:05 am, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 22:30:01 +0000, someone
>>> <cffbf4deb9142bce48974efc0e64dede@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I assume these are up-counters, so the thing overflows at all 1's.
>>>> Then you only have the one fast carry TPD for the MS18b overflowing
>>>> to all 1s when a 1 is clocked into its LSB.  One whole clock period
>>>> to clock the 1 out of the DFF and meet the setup times for what I
>>>> assume is a synchronous LD and its setup for the counters. So that
>>>> particular timing criticality is a DFF TPD and a LD setup TSU to
>>>> reliably capture the register data. The LD TPD to CLK TSU for the
>>>> LS18b counter shouldn't be a problem. This must be very speedy logic
>>>> for 150MHz. Do you have a simulator that displays how much margin you
>>>> have on this timing, or is it just a bunch waveforms?
>>>
>>> Yes, loadable up-counter with carry chain.
>>>
>>> This would be in an FPGA, so the diagram is just a concept. The
>>> reality will be VHDL code. And the FPGA boys use the Wishbone
>>> architecture and want the counter to be 32 bits, which is OK with me.
>>>
>>> We are already doing a DDS at 250 MHz on this chip, an Efinix T20, so
>>> I expect we could do a divider in that ballpark.  The T20 is in the
>>> *slow* Efinix family.
>>>
>>> I think the T20 has 18-bit fast carry chains.
>>>
>>> After the boys code this, the tools can verify timing.
>>>
>>> FPGAs are great, but there's a cultural gap between people who draw
>>> and people who type.
>>
>> Can't say I've noticed that, but since I can do both, and most of the
>> engineers I've hung out with could too, John Larkin may be projecting here.

I base the observation on people that I work with, and lately on
hundreds of people that I meet at maker-space meetups. Many are kids
with CE/EE degrees who don't know much about electricity and who don't
have jobs.

A Linked-In ad for fpga coders will get hundreds of applicants in a
few days. Circuit designers, not so many. I have a couple of quick
tests to find the rare kid that gets electronics.

>>
>
>I have a lot of interest in the Bruchla circuit as about things
>like transistor nets to effect things like Fourier-style analysis.
>
>The Bruchla circuit among accounts of things like integrators
>and differentiators, is for the middling account of dividers,
>that otherwise doesn't have exactly a simple ideal circuit.
>

Is there some specific Bruchla frequency divider circuit?

There seem to be a lot of 50-year old Bruchla circuits online. Looks
like mostly audio.


John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  Re: fast divider? someone <cffbf4deb9142bce48974efc0e64dede@example.com> - 2026-03-17 22:30 +0000
    Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-19 10:05 -0700
      Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-21 16:36 +1100
        Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 07:52 -0700
          Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-22 03:00 +1100
            Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-27 11:39 -0700
              Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-28 16:44 +1100
                Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-28 14:38 -0700
                Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-29 15:52 +1100
                Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-29 08:18 -0700
                Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-30 16:42 +1100
                Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-30 08:00 -0700
                Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-31 16:35 +1100
                Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-31 02:40 -0700
                Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-31 22:30 +1100
                Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-31 08:14 -0700
                Re: fast divider? Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-31 10:41 -0700
                Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-31 10:57 -0700
          Re: fast divider? someone <cffbf4deb9142bce48974efc0e64dede@example.com> - 2026-03-26 23:30 +0000
        Re: fast divider? Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 09:38 -0700
          Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-21 10:29 -0700
            Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-23 23:49 +1100
              Re: fast divider? john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-03-23 08:20 -0700
                Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-24 23:04 +1100
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                Re: fast divider? Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-03-25 02:47 +1100

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