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Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement)

Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Date 2017-09-19 05:36 -0700
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Subject Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement)
From pcdhobbs@gmail.com

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>I think John Miles has stated the obvious. Integrating the Fourier spectrum 
>is an industry standard procedure. 

It isn't the industry that's being silly, it's you. A barefoot OCXO in a quiet environment can be plausibly assumed to be dominated by fundamental noise sources and mechanical instability in the resonator, so the phase correlations are small and integrating the power spectrum works OK. 

JL is building time domain stuff that's chock full of fast edges and FPGAs and SMPSes and so forth, so the random phase approximation is far from safe.  

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-11 07:00 -0700
  Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-11 07:39 -0700
    Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-09-11 07:51 -0700
      Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-11 07:53 -0700
        Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-09-11 08:42 -0700
          Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-11 09:47 -0700
            Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-09-11 11:51 -0700
              Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-11 18:25 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-09-11 19:29 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-12 10:31 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2017-09-13 08:59 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-13 09:43 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-09-14 14:05 +1000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) krw@notreal.com - 2017-09-12 22:33 -0400
  Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-11 08:42 -0700
    Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-11 17:57 -0700
      Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-09-11 18:11 -0700
        Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-12 10:56 -0700
          Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-09-12 11:29 -0700
            Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-09-12 15:37 -0400
              Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-12 19:50 -0700
            Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-12 20:41 -0700
              Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-13 04:47 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-12 22:30 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-13 06:11 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-13 07:55 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-13 08:33 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-13 08:32 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-13 08:38 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-13 08:52 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-13 09:36 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-09-13 10:40 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-13 16:43 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-13 20:20 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-13 22:33 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-09-13 16:46 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-14 06:40 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-14 08:10 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-14 08:31 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-14 09:55 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-14 20:55 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-15 10:13 +0100
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-15 07:25 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-15 11:41 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-15 19:04 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-16 03:31 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-16 09:41 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-16 17:13 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-16 11:35 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-16 18:51 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-16 16:20 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-17 02:53 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Anthony Stewart <tony.sunnysky@gmail.com> - 2017-09-16 22:46 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-17 09:15 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-17 19:23 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-17 13:36 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-17 20:57 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-17 14:16 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-17 21:20 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-18 02:03 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-17 14:23 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-09-17 14:29 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-09-17 22:53 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-17 03:43 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-17 09:13 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-09-17 18:30 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-09-17 13:06 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) krw@notreal.com - 2017-09-17 17:25 -0400
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-09-17 14:35 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-09-18 15:37 +1000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) krw@notreal.com - 2017-09-18 21:00 -0400
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2017-09-19 09:35 +0200
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 07:58 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2017-09-19 10:57 +0200
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 13:15 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2017-09-19 16:53 +0200
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 15:10 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-09-19 16:53 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-09-19 07:40 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-09-20 06:18 -0400
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-19 08:24 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-09-14 21:59 +0200
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-15 07:38 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-09-17 23:39 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Gerhard Hoffmann <gerhard@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-09-18 11:51 +0200
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-18 11:08 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-09-18 08:50 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 09:53 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-18 21:30 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 15:14 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-18 22:24 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 15:30 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 15:36 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-09-18 15:50 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 17:39 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-18 18:09 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) "John Miles, KE5FX" <jmiles@gmail.com> - 2017-09-18 18:16 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 18:44 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 05:13 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 05:42 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-19 05:36 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 13:33 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-09-19 07:37 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-19 07:26 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 14:55 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-09-18 15:40 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-09-18 17:58 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-18 21:15 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-09-19 13:31 -0400
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-19 19:43 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-19 20:55 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-19 19:45 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-20 07:22 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-20 07:29 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-09-20 07:44 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-20 17:37 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-20 11:35 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-20 19:37 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> - 2017-09-21 06:38 +0000
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-09-20 23:46 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-21 18:53 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-09-21 20:20 -0700
                Re: TCXO (shopping for replacement) George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-09-22 05:41 -0700

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