Re: NymMail Tutorial How To Send Anonymous Messages

Subject	Re: NymMail Tutorial How To Send Anonymous Messages
References	(1 earlier) <qgz10cewivvg9ch1ycsgo@oc2mx.net> <10qnspm$2q3o5$1@news.tcpreset.net> <20260404.131541.e0fcf511@dirge.harmsk.com> <90eb1b43e821a20136dd1d3b2073390d@dizum.com> <20260405.193845.b77724e5@mixmin.net>
Message-Id	<20260406.033132.6af51e86@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
Date	2026-04-06 03:31 +0200
From	Kimmel <kimmel@groomers.disney.com>
Newsgroups	alt.cypherpunks, alt.privacy.anon-server, sci.crypt
Organization	dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider

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Yamn Remailer replied:

> On Sun, 2026-04-05 02:44:20 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:
>>> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, remops have o set-up a free of charge nym-network-requester
>>>
>>> Does the remop have to pay for that in any way?
>>
>>https://nym.com/docs/operators/tokenomics/mixnet-rewards#roadmap
>>
>>tells us that though the current startup phase allows us to decide upon
>>voluntary donations ("naive rewarding") we'll soon be confronted with a
>>fixed usage costs structure ("fair Mixnet"), where, based on bandwidth
>>usage, "tickets" are collected by their Mixnet gateways, both entries
>>end exits:
>
> Indeed, at 21:27 of the YT video Nym Corp's Chief Strategy
> Officer Yaja Brekke reported:
>
> "Tickets effectively represent real world usage of bandwidth of
> the network and we'll have those tickets being collected by
> gateways, both entry and exit."
>
> I wonder how those user-specific tickets will be collected at
> the exit based on user-specific bandwidth usage at that stage
> without harming or breaking anonymity?

It can't.

>>| We are working on the final architecture of Fair Mixnet tokenomics
>>| implementation and its detailed documentation. The current design is
>>| called Naive rewarding. It is an intermediate step, allowing operators
>>| to migrate to nym-node in Mixnet smart contract and for the first time
>>| receive delegations and earn rewards for any nym-node functionality, in
>>| opposite to the past system, where only Mixnodes were able to receive
>>| delegations and rewards.
>>|
>>| Please read the roadmap section below to see the planned development.
>>
>>Consider that move when deciding upon your involvement in this project.
>>
>>And here a video particularly about the reward system:
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/live/3G1pJqvO2VM?t=725
>>
>>| This is effectively the full Nym token economics in action.  We have
>>| users paying for the NymVPN by subscriptions.  Those subscriptions are
>>| feeding into a buy order that gets triggered on the market.  A buy order
>>| buys Nym tokens that are then used to reward operators.  So we see this
>>| full virtuous cycle here.  So that's what we are all looking forward to.
>>...
>>| Our aim with all these changes in the final vision for nym node rewards
>>| is that nym nodes are rewarded fairly, that you guys can make a profit
>>| and it is actually desirable to run a business as a nym infrastructure
>>| provider.  We also would like to create a genuinely thriving independent
>>| professional community of operators.
>>
>>It's all about rewards, about making money ...
>>But I think they are behind schedule.
>
> No matter, that offer smells rotten.

Smells like google, facebook and instagram.  They sell your information
to data brokers.

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  Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 17:40 +0000
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