Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages

References	<20260402.152521.69322835@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> <u0nmzi08a0hqqedhwa01m@oc2mx.net>
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From	Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202604.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
Date	2026-04-02 23:58 +0200
Subject	Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages
Newsgroups	alt.cypherpunks, alt.privacy.anon-server, sci.crypt
Organization	dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider

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Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> wrote:
>Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>> Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> wrote:
>> > Yamn2 Remailer wrote:
>> 
>> > > No, at least I don't get it.  How can NYM node operators be paid with
>> > > NYM tokens when the NYM Mixnet usage is free of charge?  Where does
>> > > their salary come from?
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > People can stake:
>> > 
>> > https://nym.com/blog/stake-Nym-tokens
>> 
>> The question is: Do they have to?
>> 
>> How can NYM tokenomics function without users being forced to pay for
>> such tokens, which obviously are the cryptocurrency within this
>> commercial network?
>> 
>> > From <https://nym.com/blog/the-value-of-nym>:
>> 
>> The NYM token firstly incentivises operators to run the powerful Nym
>> network. NYM tokens are distributed to nodes that provide privacy
>> services to end users. As the usage and demand increases, more value
>> flows through the network and is distributed to operators, incentivisng
>> more to join in and serve demand.
>> 
>> Nym is decentralized, not just to be ethical and equitable, but because
>> that helps for privacy. Because the network is decentralised and
>> permissionless, anyone can join as a node by bonding some NYM tokens to
>> signal that they want to join. This registers them with the Mixnet smart
>> contract.
>> 
>
>It's similiar to what Hal Finney once proposed long ago.
>
><https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/for-pay-remailers/>

Claas, the question was:  Is NYM Mixnet usage free of charge?

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[NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> - 2026-03-31 17:13 +0000
  Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 17:40 +0000
    Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 17:46 +0000
      Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-03-31 22:47 +0200
        Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 21:02 +0000
          Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 21:29 +0000
          Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-04-01 02:12 +0200
            Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-01 07:15 +0000
              Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2026-04-01 13:35 +0100
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-01 13:16 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2026-04-01 17:36 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-01 17:41 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-04-01 20:08 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-01 18:26 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2026-04-01 14:37 -0400
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-01 18:59 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Yamn2 Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2026-04-02 09:25 +0100
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-02 08:33 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202604.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-04-02 15:25 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> - 2026-04-02 13:35 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202604.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-04-02 23:58 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> - 2026-04-03 07:46 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> - 2026-04-03 08:05 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-03 08:12 +0000
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                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-04 18:51 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-04 18:58 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-04-05 02:44 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 06:30 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Yamn2 Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2026-04-05 12:47 +0100
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 12:32 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2026-04-05 16:29 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202604.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-04-05 21:04 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2026-04-06 06:32 -0400
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-06 11:11 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-06 11:22 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-06 11:31 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> - 2026-04-05 15:50 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 15:56 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202604.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-04-05 15:00 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 13:37 +0000
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                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 06:25 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 06:40 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-03 08:31 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Yamn Remailer <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2026-04-05 01:43 +0100
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-05 06:31 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-04-05 11:03 +0200
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-03 08:30 +0000
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                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Nym Mail <noreply@oc2mx.net> - 2026-04-03 07:51 +0000
                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202604.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-04-02 08:49 +0200
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          Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 19:34 +0000
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                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-03-31 20:34 +0000
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                Re: [NymMail Tutorial] How To Send Anonymous Messages Stefan Claas <ch1ffr3punk@mix.nym> - 2026-04-01 18:27 +0000
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