Re: On the reporting of security bugs discovered by LLM (Was Re: apt-cacher-ultra beta: Another apt cache, focusing on reliability and offline availability.)

From	Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: On the reporting of security bugs discovered by LLM (Was Re: apt-cacher-ultra beta: Another apt cache, focusing on reliability and offline availability.)
Date	2026-05-22 18:00 +0200
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CGS wrote: 
> On 2026-05-22, CGS <etphonehomefrance@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2026-05-21, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Now, innovative, non-obvious processes can be protected by patents,
> >> not copyrights. But most software doesn't contain an innovative process,
> >> just a new combination of known processes.
> >
> > What would be an example of an innovative process?
> >
> 
>  The first software patent was issued June 19, 1968 to Martin Goetz for
>  a data sorting algorithm.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patent
> 
> Seems kind of vague, in software, what could possibly be patented that
> couldn't just as well be copyrighted.

A patent covers the method.

A copyright covers the wording.

These are different, as you know, since you can express the same
instructions in English or in French. A patent would cover both,
a copyright would cover one or the other unless the complaint
was that the one was directly derivative of the other.

But all of this is law, so:

- it is dependent on jurisdiction
- it is ultimately a social matter
- it is an expression of power over others
- it is guaranteed to be wrong in at least some cases or
applications.

-dsr-

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