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Re: Adopting OpenStack packages

From Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Adopting OpenStack packages
Date 2017-03-04 16:10 +0100
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On March 4, 2017 4:46:05 AM EST, Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> wrote:
> ❦  3 mars 2017 21:42 -0800, Clint Byrum <clint@fewbar.com> :
>
>> One great thing about teams is they have many faces. Talk to me. Talk
>to
>> Allison. Talk to others. We're here to make sure things flow smoothly
>> for OpenStack and Debian, and if you have disagreements and don't
>want
>> to fight, I get that. Maybe we can reach consensus through other
>> channels.
>
>Unfortunately, the team usually stays silent (I included) when Piotr
>takes some decision. It's not like Zigo was the only one that
>accidently uploaded a non-team-owned package. It just happened to be
>packages maintained by someone over-protective. I have noticed several
>other occurrences for packages that I maintain, I didn't ever bother to
>make a mention.
>
>So, the face of the team is Piotr, for better (pybuild) and worse (ban
>without a time limit).

Piotr consulted other team admins.  He may have been the public face of the decision, but it wasn't his alone.  It was also unique.  I don't recall even considering such a step any other time, before or since.

This was not about isolated mistakes.  We've all made those.  I do not, however, think it's useful to rehash the details.  I do think it is worth mentioning that since he's back in the team it wasn't without limit.

Scott K

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Adopting OpenStack packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-02-28 21:50 +0100
  Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-03 14:10 +0100
    Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net> - 2017-03-03 16:10 +0100
      Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 04:40 +0100
        Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 05:20 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 01:50 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 00:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 01:00 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-03-06 06:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 07:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 09:20 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Clint Byrum <spamaps@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 16:30 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-06 16:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 17:00 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 17:50 +0100
                Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <scott@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-06 18:20 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 21:30 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 22:50 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-03-06 23:20 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-07 23:20 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-08 07:50 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-03-08 09:20 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-08 10:50 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-03-06 06:50 +0100
        Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-04 06:10 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 00:50 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 01:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 23:10 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-06 02:40 +0100
        Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Clint Byrum <clint@fewbar.com> - 2017-03-04 07:10 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 10:50 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-04 16:10 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 21:30 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 01:00 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 06:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 07:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 01:30 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 01:50 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 23:00 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 04:00 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net> - 2017-03-05 18:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2017-03-05 21:20 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 22:10 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 22:50 +0100

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