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Re: Adopting OpenStack packages

From Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Adopting OpenStack packages
Date 2017-03-06 02:40 +0100
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On March 5, 2017 5:09:33 PM EST, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> wrote:
>On 03/05/2017 01:13 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On March 4, 2017 6:41:13 PM EST, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
>wrote:
>>> On 03/04/2017 06:03 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>>> If you don't understand why, after repeated warnings,
>>>> you were temporarily banned from  team repository access,
>>>
>>> I understand, but I don't agree. My view is that it went a way too
>far
>>> and that we all have better things to do than such playground
>activity.
>>> That's not how I envision team work either.
>>>
>>>> it probably is better that you refrain from contributing
>>>> to the team.
>>>
>>> Looks like you didn't even care reading what I wrote before
>replying.
>>> Otherwise you would know that's what I've been doing already, and
>one
>>> of
>>> the reasons I'm not comfortable moving packages to the team.
>> 
>> My preference would be that you constructively contribute to the
>team.
>> I can understand your feelings, but I'd ask you to try and set them
>aside.  
>> 
>> It probably sounds like I'm telling you to go away. I'm not.
>> 
>> If you can manage to move on from what happened before and work as
>part
>> of the team, I think we'll all be better off.  Having pkg-openstack
>be
>> an alternative DPMT isn't a good approach.
>> 
>> For things that aren't used outside openstack, I think it's great to
>> have a focused team.  The other things would be better in DPMT and I 
>> don't think you should block that where others want to do it.
>> 
>> Scott K
>
>Scott,
>
>It feels a way better to read what you just wrote. However, I am now
>confused (to say the least), because you wrote one thing and its
>complete opposite yesterday and today. From your words:
>
>"it probably is better that you refrain from contributing to the team."
>
>and right now:
>
>"My preference would be that you constructively contribute to the
>team."
>
>Which of the 2 sentences should I take into account?

There was a conditional before the first one that you snipped.  Given what you quoted, the latter.

I'm not aware of any complaints since you rejoined the team.  So, to the extent you are contributing (and I really don't keep track), I expect it's been constructive and I'm happy to see it continue and increase.

Scott K

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Adopting OpenStack packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-02-28 21:50 +0100
  Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-03 14:10 +0100
    Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net> - 2017-03-03 16:10 +0100
      Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 04:40 +0100
        Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 05:20 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 01:50 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 00:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 01:00 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-03-06 06:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 07:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 09:20 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Clint Byrum <spamaps@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 16:30 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-06 16:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 17:00 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 17:50 +0100
                Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <scott@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-06 18:20 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 21:30 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-06 22:50 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-03-06 23:20 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-07 23:20 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-08 07:50 +0100
                Re: Transition away from git-dpm was: Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-03-08 09:20 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-03-08 10:50 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-03-06 06:50 +0100
        Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-04 06:10 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 00:50 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 01:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 23:10 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-06 02:40 +0100
        Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Clint Byrum <clint@fewbar.com> - 2017-03-04 07:10 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 10:50 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-04 16:10 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-04 21:30 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 01:00 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 06:40 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 07:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 01:30 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 01:50 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 23:00 +0100
          Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 04:00 +0100
            Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net> - 2017-03-05 18:20 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2017-03-05 21:20 +0100
                Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-03-05 22:10 +0100
              Re: Adopting OpenStack packages Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-03-05 22:50 +0100

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